[App_rpt-users] Politics

[Tim Sawyer]

Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2
which I give freely to anyone who wants it with no restrictions. If the
HamVoIP folks told you not to port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further
demonstrates their total disregard for fairness.

But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built upon the
knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP took
Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of development by
countless people and closed it, ending the path to the next level of
knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one shared their knowledge. "We
stand on the shoulders of giants" is the point I'm making. No one will be
standing on HamVoIP's shoulders.

HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to Allmon 2.  A
whole lot more of that should be happening.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after asking
> for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly told them I
> would use there packet of supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as
> I dont want to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont
> remember the name.
>
>
>
> Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 01:03, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> a
> écrit :
>
>> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the
>> lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but
>> still.
>>
>> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim
>> there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there’s always someone who will
>> try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a
>> microcosm of society in general; were it not so.
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, <k7ilo1 at gmail.com> <k7ilo1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded
>> me of how I had known about them.
>> They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post
>> with a question about something that I don’t remember, but that’s besides
>> the point.
>> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward
>> the asterisk group.
>> I never pursued their website or anything else about them since.
>>
>> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way.  I left the magnetic
>> loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said.
>> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90’s
>> when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out
>> of em.
>> Which I took personal because Im one of them.
>>
>> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how
>> ham groups bash the other.  What has OUR HOBBY come to?
>>
>> Harold
>> K7ILO
>> Las Vegas, NV.
>> Node 27863
>>
>> *From:* App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> *On
>> Behalf Of *Tim Sawyer
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM
>> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
>> *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Politics
>>
>>
>> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals
>> in numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is
>> up to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the
>> August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org.
>>
>> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding
>> not spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the
>> scenes attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak
>> publicly on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false
>> statements must be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular
>> post at this time.
>>
>> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason
>> AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario.
>>
>> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around
>> the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money.
>>
>> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially
>> taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as
>> possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and
>> co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board
>> members and made arrangements for what you see today.
>>
>> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go
>> perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only
>> attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about
>> anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we
>> have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say.
>>
>> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up
>> some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say
>> enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are
>> welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of
>> others who have nothing but good intentions.
>>
>> --
>> Tim WD6AWP
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