[App_rpt-users] Politics

[Pierre Martel]

I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list after asking
for the source code.. I was even kicked out after I publicly told them I
would use there packet of supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as
I dont want to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont
remember the name.



Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 01:03, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> a écrit :

> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring to question the
> lack of any source code release? I did. No real skin off my nose, but
> still.
>
> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean magloop at yahoogroups? I skim
> there, generally a pretty decent bunch, but there’s always someone who will
> try to ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our hobby is a
> microcosm of society in general; were it not so.
>
> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, <k7ilo1 at gmail.com> <k7ilo1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don’t know much about them but after going to the website, it reminded
> me of how I had known about them.
> They private emailed me about what they were up to after I hit this post
> with a question about something that I don’t remember, but that’s besides
> the point.
> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way, hateful toward
> the asterisk group.
> I never pursued their website or anything else about them since.
>
> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way.  I left the magnetic
> loop group after expressing my feelings toward something that was said.
> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby during the 90’s
> when the FCC introduced the no code technician and they bashed the crap out
> of em.
> Which I took personal because Im one of them.
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how political and how
> ham groups bash the other.  What has OUR HOBBY come to?
>
> Harold
> K7ILO
> Las Vegas, NV.
> Node 27863
>
> *From:* App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Sawyer
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM
> *To:* Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> *Subject:* [App_rpt-users] Politics
>
>
> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the HamVoIP principals in
> numerous posts, emails and telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up
> to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a look at the August
> 16 post over on hamVoIP.org.
>
> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I should be coding not
> spending time on this BS. Even so I've spent tons of time behind the scenes
> attempting to get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly on
> this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some false statements must
> be publicly corrected. I will address only this particular post at this
> time.
>
> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very reason
> AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that scenario.
>
> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous servers around
> the country run by folks that donate their time, effort and money.
>
> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar was unofficially
> taken over. That's just not true. The reigns were turned as officially as
> possible given Jim's sudden death. Jim's long time friends and
> co-developers of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board
> members and made arrangements for what you see today.
>
> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new servers didn't go
> perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to bash individuals who are only
> attempting to improve AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about
> anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the learning process. Now we
> have a better system and no one got shot as my Marine friend used to say.
>
> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only serve to build up
> some individuals at the expense of others. To HamVoIP principals I say
> enough of that crap! If you want to build a better mouse trap you are
> welcome to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by speaking badly of
> others who have nothing but good intentions.
>
> --
> Tim WD6AWP
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