[App_rpt-users] Services on the New Portal Site

Sat Jan 5 22:35:38 UTC 2019

Tim, I know it's a easy change, the code is there.

You know more about your targets than I do. I can't evaluate that. 
Evaluating all browsers is always tough enough.

Do it as you have good reason to.  I fully respect that.

I will adapt in device and method that best serves me

it was only a suggestion/request and I thought it was a easy one.

...mike/kb8jnm

On 1/5/2019 4:47 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> That's a super easy change, only one line change to the program.  I 
> read your notes but I don't get why you would want that. You can make 
> the page length longer and scan more nodes at a time. You also have 
> the filter to zero in on your target. Show me a specific use case and 
> change my mind.
>
> The down side a more pagination numbers is what happens on mobile 
> devices. This is with the number set to 12.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 10:13 AM Mike <mm at midnighteng.com 
> <mailto:mm at midnighteng.com>> wrote:
>
>     I was only making a point,
>
>     If pagination is desired to not just relieve server stress if it
>     does indeed do that,
>
>     but for a user to load the entire list can be somewhat a heavy
>     user device load depending on the user device and resources.
>
>
>     The point is, if it is desirable to break it down into pages in
>     the first place,
>
>     you should be able to move ahead 5 pages (or more) at a time until
>     you get to the area in question,
>
>     instead of just 'one page forward at a time'.
>
>     Either get rid of the page button list and just replace it with
>     prev & next or use a page spread of 10 pages.
>
>
>     Honestly, I don't care for myself unless I am using on some devices,
>
>     but it seems a waste of paging the list and the button space on
>     the page when all you really have is 'previous and next' and
>     'first and last' to navigate the list in 'page mode'.
>
>     The code is already on the page, it just needs expanded to more
>     page buttons. Didn't think it was a big deal to do.
>
>
>     So if I were to take advantage of viewing 50 at a time, I have to
>     hit next next 3 dozen times or more to find the data for node
>     29999 and that is only 1/3 of the way through the list.
>
>     So, agreed, yes, it is better to just view all.... So why page it ?
>
>     I see no point in paging the list without a good 'pagination
>     button navigation spread'.
>
>     Well, I will not speak of it again. It was simple request. Perhaps
>     I can not convey any understanding.
>
>     But the list will get larger and harder to load and navigate.
>
>     ...mike/kb8jnm
>
>     https://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-paginate-data-with-php--net-2928
>
>
>     On 1/5/2019 12:03 PM, Mike Lee wrote:
>>     Hi Mike,
>>
>>     What's your use case for pagination? I'm genuinely curious how you're
>>     using it, since there could be almost 800 pages to go through
>>     depending on how many nodes you're showing on a page.
>>
>>     To me, it seems useless to even view it in pages of 15-50 nodes and
>>     then paging through it.
>>
>>     (I do get why it's defaulted to 15 per page; if you're hitting this
>>     page and using the filter, it's much easier on server performance)
>>
>>     I typically show 'all' and use the filter OR 'find' in my browser if
>>     I'm looking for something.
>>
>>     Mike
>>
>>     On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 3:37 AM Mike<mm at midnighteng.com>  <mailto:mm at midnighteng.com>  wrote:
>>>     Look at this better example for what you now have.
>>>
>>>     https://www.w3.org/wiki/Creating_multiple_pages_with_navigation_menus#Pagination
>>>
>>>     ...mike/kb8jnm
>>>
>>>     On 1/4/2019 11:36 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>>>
>>>     The numbers on the bottom right are page numbers. Most of the time they show you the first, last, previous, next page numbers plus a couple of ellipsis'. However when you are within a few paged of the first or last page the ellipsis are replaced with page numbers. Does that help explain how it currently works?
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 12:30 PM Mike<mm at midnighteng.com>  <mailto:mm at midnighteng.com>  wrote:
>>>>     Well Tim,
>>>>
>>>>     I just went back to the site to make a better description ...
>>>>
>>>>     Even if you select 50 nodes per page...matters not
>>>>
>>>>     Click in advance(bottom right) once to move ahead 5 pages.
>>>>
>>>>     Now you only have a choice to go the next page. The right 2 buttons both do that.
>>>>
>>>>     So the page spread should be about 8-10 so you can advance at least 4 pages at a time.
>>>>
>>>>     Am I clear or confusing?
>>>>
>>>>     ...mike/kb8jnm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     I was referring to the bottom of the page where you jump ahead to the next page of nodes.
>>>>
>>>>     I see you can select to jump 5 pages ahead now. TNX.
>>>>
>>>>     ...mike/kb8jnm
>>>>
>>>>     On 1/4/2019 3:22 PM, larry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Mike,
>>>>
>>>>     I don't see what you refer to.
>>>>     There are 3 different viewing options...
>>>>
>>>>     1. make up to 50 nodes per page
>>>>     2. use the previous/next or jump to multiple page option or
>>>>     3. just enter info into the filter and it will give yo whatever you want.
>>>>
>>>>     Or did I miss what you were looking for?
>>>>
>>>>     Tim has it pretty well covered... and nothing says data will remain on a particular page.
>>>>
>>>>     Larry - N7FM
>>>>
>>>>     On 1/4/19 11:29 AM, Mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Tim,
>>>>
>>>>     I was wondering if something can be done with the paginating buttons on the nodelist display.
>>>>
>>>>     At no time can you select more than the next page to scroll through the list.
>>>>
>>>>     Unless you show the whole list quantity.
>>>>
>>>>     Normally you should be able to jump 5 pages if needed.
>>>>
>>>>     Just a thought. Having all those button at the bottom isn't helping anything.
>>>>
>>>>     First, Last and 'Next' page is all you get. Defeats the purpose.
>>>>
>>>>     Anyway, good work, TNX.
>>>>
>>>>     ...mike/kb8jnm
>>>>
>>>>     On 1/4/2019 11:47 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     I've pointed the Register link onallstarlink.org  <http://allstarlink.org>  to the new portal,web-tpa.allstarlink.org  <http://web-tpa.allstarlink.org>  (our future portal site).
>>>>
>>>>     That us brings to fourallstarlink.org  <http://allstarlink.org>  services that point toweb-tpa.allstarlink.org  <http://web-tpa.allstarlink.org>:
>>>>
>>>>     - New user registration
>>>>     - Password reset
>>>>     - Callsign change
>>>>     - Nodes List
>>>>
>>>>     At this pointweb-tpa.allstarlink.org  <http://web-tpa.allstarlink.org>  has every service it needs to replaceallstarlink.org  <http://allstarlink.org>. The above are just the services that have redirected links. Additionally I'll repoint the entire portal menu soon to have users pound on that before the migration.
>>>>
>>>>     We don't have a date for theallstarlink.org  <http://allstarlink.org>  migration yet, but it will be soon. Stay tuned.
>>>>
>>>>     --
>>>>     Tim WD6AWP
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