[App_rpt-users] Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough

Wed Jul 3 00:53:40 UTC 2019

What in heck has our hobby come to?

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From: App_rpt-users <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org> on behalf of Brad Trogdon <brad at trogdon.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 5:45 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough

Will respond to each point individually and will also post questions as well.  Thanks for your engagement as this will help myself and other users of AllStar distributions draw our own conclusions by being fully informed.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 6:03 PM Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net<mailto:Bryan at bryanfields.net>> wrote:
On 7/2/19 4:54 PM, Brad Trogdon wrote:
> Bryan Fields,
>
> Not sure of your beef but from a users perspective having tried both
> AllStar and HamVoIP groups and offerings I have to say hands down the
> HamVoIP group contributes significantly more to the communities in the form
> of product, updates and support.

HamVoIP has contributed nothing to the AllStar community, but has stolen much
from it.  HamVoIP has _no_ right to distribute the AllStar code and is engaged
in criminal copyright infringement against this community.  This is trampling
on the rights of every user and developer here; it's beyond reprehensible.

Please define AllStar community. Being a user of the HamVoIP distribution I feel I am a member of the community but with an updated and feature rich version.  To define stolen that means one would be deprived of use which I don’t see occurring.

How are developers and users being negatively impacted?  I see nothing but users and developers benefiting.

Do you condone this?

>From my viewpoint as a user of well maintained and feature rich software, yes.  I don’t see anyone being deprived.  I appreciate their hard work and constant support to where I personally have donated when given the opportunity.

> I have witnessed support to folks whom are using the product in other than
> Amateur applications as well.

Please name and shame them.  Using John David/Inttek code certainly exposes a
commercial entity to action of copyright infringement.  If it's knowingly
using it, it's a crime.

Their are more than Amateur usage of this tool.  GMRS for example how would that group be shamed?  Their are individuals whom use this for personal and private networks in the Amateur community.  Is this not in the spirit of the applications creator?

> If the complaint were the first I would think that it’s an anomaly but
> their is a significant number of users complaining about registration and
> inability to connect to others.  Got that you have a tool but does the tool
> provide feedback that is a benefit to those actually having issues
> connecting to others.

There's not a problem with it, no one is complaining, other than John David
McGough.

I beg to differ.  You should review the HamVoIP archives and you will see a steady stream of folks having issues that request and receive assistance in resolving  their nodes connectivity issues. Why are the folks asking others for assistance?  Could it be that they are not getting it elsewhere?

> I would work on fixing the problem Proactively and not flame others who are
> providing a service to the community at large.

What service is he providing?  What is he contributing if he's unable to abide
by the basic tenets of the community?

I believe I have answered the question of service and contributions.  Not sure whom created it but the SuperMon dashboard is a fantastic feature.  The HamVoIP provides tons of how-tos and white-papers. When you refer to the “Community” are you referring to a small group that could be compared to a HOA?  Again from my perspective they are providing assistance, support and product to a global community and are being picked on by a group of disgruntled HOA members.  I as a user have the option to choose. I obviously chose an enhanced and feature rich version whom has a large community that provides support and guidance.  The package is user friendly to even those non Linux folks.  Heck I figured it out.

Not sure if you saw my follow-up post previously but your dashboard was reporting a component of AllStar was offline (Down)

-Brad

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