[App_rpt-users] Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough

[Robert Ruddy]

100% agree with everything you said.

Bob

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 13:37 Steve L <kb9mwr at gmail.com> wrote:

> I won't go so far as to suggest there could be something nefarious in
> the compiled hamvoip code.  That is something that really on concerns
> me with big corporations like Sony Rootkit scandal.  Here we just have
> two groups of people who don't see eye-to eye.
>
> The bigger problem is the folks (user base/end users) that don't see
> the benefit of open source
>
> Well I will share the reason I moved to Allstar (or more specifically
> App_rpt at the time, because I think the Allstar branding came later)
> from the IRLP platform was IRLP suffered the same lack of source
> issues.  And I am no appliance operator.  I can only be satisfied so
> long being and end user.  I wanted to modify things, change things
> that that the closed IRLP platform wouldn't allow me to.  Allstar
> became the answer to my prayers.
>
> Sure Hamvoip can be a good place to start, but if you are like many
> you will be unsatisfied at some point later.  Then there is the whole
> what happens if some dies (like Jim did) or pulls the plug?  In an
> opensource environment, the project can live on, like it has.  In the
> closed source case, not so much.
>
> Same reasons I moved away from DD-WRT (no source code) and favored Tomato.
>
> Same reason AMBE bugs the heck out of me...
>
> Aside from a good number of documents that the Hamvoip guy have out
> there, I don't see how the project gives back to the community, other
> than by providing something geared for appliance folks.
>
> Ham radio is and always has been a work together thing.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:07 PM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > You forgot to mention that "secret spy" software included in the HamVoIP
> > release is designed to dampen the Sun's double-oscillator, throwing it
> > completely out of phase. With each new HamVoIP node deployed, the effect
> > becomes more pronounced, ultimately causing a Maunder Sunspot Minimum.
> > This, of course, is to the HamVoIP advantage, since no sunspots means
> even
> > more hams will need AllStar for communications. Which, in turn, dampens
> > the Sun even more.
> >
> > A movie is already in production. In this remake of the classic 1962
> > thriller "Dr. No," SPECTRE is replaced SPARKY, AKA: John David McGough,
> as
> > the Arch villain (running Arch Linux, of course). In a twist of the plot
> > from the original movie, SKYNET is accidentally created by huge Raspberry
> > Pi cluster, leading to world domination.
> >
> >
> > ....LMAO....
> >
> >
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, Pierre Martel wrote:
> >
> > > My message to the people that want this to be done in private, I say.
> It is
> > > already in private, Private communication between the people that have
> > > business in a matter is exactly what we are doing. We are ALL parts of
> that
> > > thing.
> > >
> > > Anyone that think they are not being affected by this is so wrong. The
> > > other distro could be playing with how the registration is being done
> and
> > > could be the responsible for the registration failling.. But since they
> > > wont release the source of the code we cant say, and first thing we
> know,
> > > the user thinks it is the coder here that are responsible.. Open
> source are
> > > exactly for that.
> > >
> > > It can be a simple tactic to force the user base that use that distro
> into
> > > moving to a new type of registration and splitting the community in
> half..
> > > this would not even be far fetched.
> > >
> > > There is a saying in french that goes like this ( open translation
> sorry if
> > > it is not ok) There is no better way to justify the killing your dog
> then
> > > telling it has rabies. So making registration unreliable in there
> version
> > > is about the best way to push a split by offering a "better" solution.
> > > Again, there is no way to check this as they dont publish the source..
> > >
> > > It is not the first time in open source software that this happen, SDR#
> > > used to be open source, but lots of people started publishing binaries
> with
> > > dirty hacks and other gizmo that was making the software unstable. The
> main
> > > programer got tired of this and closed back the source ( he always
> kept the
> > > IP to himself , never released the source under GPL). And now, even if
> he
> > > still works on his project and we still have the software, the day he
> > > decide to stop producing it, we all loose... And if the source would be
> > > available, maybe some new coder could build on what he done and we
> would
> > > all gain from this.. But nope, some ass holes broke this for ALL of us.
> > >
> > > We are still lucky that many good programer are still maintening and
> > > upgrading that software..
> > >
> > > But letting things go as they are right now will only lead to a pit
> fall.
> > >
> > > Like some meme photo we all see on social media, ITs because of that we
> > > cant have nice things..
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > > VE2PF
> > >
> > > P.s. Just in case it is not clear.. The other distro leader are the
> worst
> > > thing that could happen to allstarlink.
> > >
> >
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