[App_rpt-users] Response to the AllStarLink Board of Directors message from 29 December 2020

Steve Zingman szingman at gmail.com
Thu Dec 31 03:54:52 UTC 2020


I have NOTHING to do with the politics of what is going on. I'm simply a 
user asking what happened to the AllStarLink repository. And, I'm still 
waiting for a answer.

Steve N4IRS

On 12/30/20 10:44 PM, Skyler F wrote:
> politics politics politics
>
> why can't we all be friends and work together?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 6:52 PM Steve Zingman <szingman at gmail.com 
> <mailto:szingman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I understand that, my question is why was it "moved" and not
>     forked. I setup the AllStarLink github account as part of
>     AllStarLink. No matter what pttlink does the resource is AllStarLink.
>
>     Steve N4IRS
>
>     On 12/30/20 8:46 PM, Andrew Sylthe wrote:
>>     Steve,
>>
>>     It appears to have been moved to https://github.com/pttlink/Asterisk
>>
>>     On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 7:43 PM Steve Zingman <szingman at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:szingman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Stacy,
>>         Do you know why the AllStarLink
>>         <https://github.com/AllStarLink> github
>>         repositories are gone? Was this part of the actions of the board?
>>
>>         Steve N4IRS
>>
>>         On 12/30/20 8:06 PM, Stacy wrote:
>>         > A bit on this change:
>>         >
>>         > Nobody on the admin side that runs what was the AllStarLink
>>         (ASL)
>>         > infrastructure (now PTTLink) was ever informed this was
>>         going to
>>         > happen.  Yesterday afternoon (12/29/20) at around 5:00 PM
>>         (Pacific) our
>>         > monitoring system started going crazy with alerts telling
>>         us systems
>>         > were down.  Investigation showed that the SOA record for
>>         allstarlink.org <http://allstarlink.org>
>>         > was changed to what it is now (Cloudflare) and this broke
>>         numerous
>>         > things.  Both the wording and timing of this announcement
>>         is very much a
>>         > jab (or middle finger) pointed directly at me since I'm the
>>         main person
>>         > who has been running things.  I am one who has ensured that
>>         the ASL
>>         > Network (and associated infrastructure) remained
>>         operational and was
>>         > able to handle the increasingly growing number of nodes
>>         (well over
>>         > 5,100).  This was done solely through me investing both my
>>         own time and
>>         > money without the help or participation of the ASL Board. 
>>         In addition
>>         > to this "re-engineering" I have also had my account on the
>>         ASL Slack
>>         > workspace suspended without notice and any and all admin
>>         access to the
>>         > ASL Web portal was removed too (among other things).
>>         >
>>         > For quite some time, well before Bryan Fields (W9CR) or
>>         Fred Moses
>>         > (W8FSM) stopped their involvement in ASL directly, the
>>         AllStarLink, Inc
>>         > Board (ASL Board) has done its best to alienate, patronize,
>>         ridicule,
>>         > demean, and basically exclude the admin team from anything
>>         substantial
>>         > regarding the ASL infrastructure for which they had no
>>         understanding of
>>         > nor did they attempt to understand.   Numerous attempts
>>         were made by
>>         > myself and others to try to fix the issues that were very
>>         apparent, and
>>         > yet they were met with disdain and ignored.  This included
>>         on several
>>         > occasions attempts at impassioned pleas by myself and
>>         others directly to
>>         > the ASL Board members regarding the issues that we saw and
>>         asking for
>>         > reparations to make things better.   Of which included
>>         being open
>>         > regarding any decisions being made which directly affected
>>         the admin
>>         > team.  Additionally, any and all attempts to ask what is
>>         happening on/at
>>         > the board level regarding ASL were ignored or told that it
>>         didn't
>>         > involve or concern us.  Instead, they continued on the same
>>         course of
>>         > action that served to alienate more and more people from
>>         participating
>>         > in ASL on the admin side with the results of me being the
>>         sole admin
>>         > person left.
>>         >
>>         > This "re-engineering" and the resulting chaos and outages
>>         are serve as a
>>         > testament to the ASL Board again attempting to change
>>         things without
>>         > understanding the system itself and without telling anyone.
>>         >
>>         >> This is part of an ongoing two-year project to provide
>>         sufficient
>>         > resources for projected node growth and additional
>>         stability. In
>>         > addition, this will create a stable framework for new types
>>         of clients
>>         > to participate in the future.
>>         >
>>         > Again, nobody told me (or anyone else associated with the
>>         admin team)
>>         > about this "two year project".  Each and every time the ASL
>>         Board has
>>         > attempted a change (and broken something), the current node
>>         registration
>>         > system was brought up.  For example, the Round Robin DNS
>>         (RRDNS) has
>>         > been a sticking point for a certain unnamed ASL Board
>>         member, and during
>>         > discussions this unnamed individual had the audacity to
>>         state that
>>         > DSNMGR messages regarding changes to the IP address of the
>>         server at
>>         > register.allstarlink.org <http://register.allstarlink.org>
>>         was "trashing his node".   One of the long
>>         > since alienated admin team members had to explain that you
>>         could adjust
>>         > logging in Asterisk through a config file.  This is one of
>>         many examples
>>         > that demonstrated the lack of knowledge of AllStarLink,
>>         Asterisk, and
>>         > app_rpt by a  member of the ASL Board.  Yet we are to
>>         believe that a
>>         > "two year project" has been in the works by this same group
>>         that is
>>         > supposed be  a "re-engineered" system to promote growth and
>>         stability?
>>         >
>>         >> You should also be aware that some specific volunteers
>>         (past and
>>         > current) have opposed this sort of design change and we
>>         suspect that you
>>         > may be reading negative comments from them on various
>>         platforms. The
>>         > board’s staffing goals are to promote technical innovation
>>         from as many
>>         > hams as want to get involved and bring new features and
>>         clients to Allstar.
>>         >
>>         > Don't be fooled by this attempt at taking the high ground.  The
>>         > opposition they are implying results from attempts at
>>         changes from the
>>         > ASL Board without understanding the underlying technical
>>         issues behind
>>         > how/why things run and causing outages that they wouldn't
>>         (or couldn't)
>>         > fix.  Each and every time an ASL Board member brought up
>>         > "re-engineering" the registration system, the reply that I
>>         empathically
>>         > gave was that yes, the system can be improved upon but
>>         there needs to be
>>         > a plan.  I personally have stated that I am open to
>>         improvements to this
>>         > system that were the result of planning, testing and made
>>         sense.  The
>>         > ASL Board thought that moving the system to AWS or Google
>>         would "solve"
>>         > everything yet when pressed for details on how this would
>>         be done, we
>>         > were met with crickets or arguments that it was just better
>>         and that was
>>         > that.  And when asked about a budget for such a move we
>>         were again met
>>         > with silence.  The "resistance" that is alluded to was with
>>         regards to
>>         > actually sitting down and creating a plan on how to move
>>         forward with
>>         > "re-engineering" this system, and not just what amounted to
>>         throwing
>>         > scat at the wall and seeing what stuck (resulting in either
>>         myself or
>>         > others on the admin team having to figure out what broke
>>         and fix it,
>>         > since most of these changes were done without telling us). 
>>         At no point
>>         > during the any of occasions in which I said this has any
>>         ASL Board
>>         > member taken the initiative to actually have this
>>         discussion with me (or
>>         > anyone on the admin team) and come up with a viable plan to
>>         both
>>         > "re-engineer" and do a proper cut over that isn't as
>>         disruptive as the
>>         > one we are experiencing now.
>>         >
>>         > There is a history of the ASL Board doing things that have
>>         broken
>>         > registration and parts of the infrastructure in the past,
>>         and this is no
>>         > different.
>>         >
>>         > PTTLink was formed due to the ASL Board's actions which
>>         forked the
>>         > AllStarLink network by changing the DNS records without
>>         prior notice.
>>         >
>>         > The PTTLink Network can be thought of as an "overlay" to
>>         what had been
>>         > in operation as the AllStarLink Network. This change was
>>         done simply by
>>         > changing the domain name in use on the servers to
>>         pttlink.org <http://pttlink.org>. Your
>>         > existing credentials will continue to work unless you
>>         change them.
>>         > However, PTTLink, as a result of the ASL Board's egregious
>>         and careless
>>         > action, is now a separate entity from the AllStarLink
>>         Network. I call
>>         > upon the ASL Board to restore DNS back to the way it was
>>         before they
>>         > forked it, moving everything back to the perfectly working
>>         > infrastructure that uses what are now the pttlink.org
>>         <http://pttlink.org> servers.
>>         > Additionally, I call upon them to restore all access that
>>         was revoked
>>         > from me (both recently, and that which was revoked before
>>         without notice).
>>         >
>>         > I am very disappointed in the egregious actions that the
>>         ASL Board has
>>         > taken (or more importantly have directed others to take)
>>         with regards to
>>         > the AllStarLink infrastructure and their statement.  Such
>>         actions are
>>         > clearly indicative of a group that is unfit to be the
>>         stewards to the
>>         > legacy of the late Jim Dixon or properly be of service to
>>         the community
>>         > without trying to benefit from it.  Additionally, I feel
>>         that these
>>         > actions, as made clear in their statement, were directed at
>>         me in an
>>         > attempt to "punish" me for my insistence and diligence at
>>         keeping the
>>         > ASL (now PTTLInk) infrastructure running when others made
>>         disruptive
>>         > changes to it.  If so, then this is very troubling indeed.
>>         >
>>         > As I have very plainly stated before to the ASL Board
>>         members and
>>         > others, as long as I have the resources to support ASL they
>>         will remain
>>         > available.  In that I will pledge to my fellow hams that
>>         PTTLink will
>>         > remain operational and available for use as long as I am
>>         able to
>>         > continue to provide the time and other resources to keeping it
>>         > operational.  Fortunately, I am no longer alone in this
>>         endeavor and
>>         > others have volunteered to help.
>>         >
>>         > The new links for PTTLInk sites are as follows:
>>         >
>>         > PTTLink Portal - https://www.pttlink.org
>>         >
>>         > PTTLink Stats Server - http://stats.pttlink.org
>>         >
>>         > PTTLink Registration Server - register.pttlink.org
>>         <http://register.pttlink.org>
>>         >
>>         > PTTLink Node List Server - nodes(x).pttlink.org
>>         <http://pttlink.org>
>>         >
>>         > PTTLInk is on Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/pttlink
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Additionally, you can use the DNS node lookup developed by
>>         W9CR (which
>>         > was working with allstarlink.org <http://allstarlink.org>
>>         before the ASL Board forked the network):
>>         >
>>         > IP Address of registered node: dig
>>         <node#>.nodes.pttlink.org <http://nodes.pttlink.org>
>>         >
>>         > TXT record showing DNS registration info: dig TXT
>>         <node#>.nodes.pttlink.org <http://nodes.pttlink.org>
>>         >
>>         > Additionally, you can utilize the app_rpt-users mailing
>>         list for support
>>         > by subscribing at
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > 73,
>>         > Stacy
>>         > KG7QIN
>>         >
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>>     -- 
>>     Andrew Sylthe
>>     KC9ONA
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