[FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
KI4LVH at aol.com
KI4LVH at aol.com
Mon Oct 3 09:33:37 EDT 2016
I am the Repeater Trustee for our Radio Club and we have three (3) active
repeaters currently. I managed to get my coordinations submitted (and
received, hopefully) on Sept 29. The coordinations included 3 for active
repeaters and a fourth coordination to release a coordinated pair, we are no
I have been dealing with the FRC for several years and have found them to
be responsive. This year I sent a request to the DBM (Data Base Manager)
for the information they had for our repeaters, and received it within two
days. I'm happy with that. Normally, I would expect a response for our
coordination updates to be received within a week. I'm expecting it to take a
bit longer this year since it appears that just about everyone is
coordinating on Sept 30. Hopefully, they will spread that out over the next year
Thank you for your comments. I'm aware of your experience and your
extensive work with repeaters.
I'm not happy about the FRC web site being hacked. I've worked with
computers (yes, mainframes, too) since 1958, as a programmer, systems
programmer, systems analyst, systems manager, etc. Some idiot hacking the database
does us all harm. I hope the FRC catches them and has them arrested. They
need to pay for the crime. (Yes, I was a computer security specialist for
While the FRC may need some reorganization, we should do it within the
rules, for valid reasons, and not in a fit of anger.
73, Steve KI4LVH (Extra, with code)
In a message dated 10/3/2016 9:11:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com writes:
I ask have you built and maintained a repeater in Florida??? Not just set
on a board in a club. I see nothing in your Ham resume that states this.
Being a Network Architect qualifies you for little in repeaters and in
I've worked with the FRC for over 20 years and find they do have problems,
but for repeater coordination are one of the best I've seen.
73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Micro Computer Concepts
mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
From: FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Bryan
Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22 PM
To: frc-info at lists.keekles.org
Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List,
I am Bryan Fields, W9CR.
I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in
four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group.
Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’
ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a
GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks.
Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent
directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and
ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting.
It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio
repeaters in the following ways:
* Publication of the FRC database on a public website
* This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages
show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the
database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director
Rodakis and Director Lavender.
* Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret,
however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the
coordinated location of every repeater in the state.
* All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site
address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published.
* Length of the coordination process is unacceptable!
* As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have
not been processed. It’s October!
* If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable
time, he needs to step down.
* Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most
coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws!
This applies to the board as well.
* Violation of the coordination policy by the directors
* Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors
* Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for
* Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis
* Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for
available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency
* When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them,
some even coordinated well under the radius.
* Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of
The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency
coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for
amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under
this current administration.
My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for
repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be
answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for
coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should
not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading
contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws,
and accountable to its members.
The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working
with their members and other amateurs.
My plan to get us on the right track is:
* Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing
the organization to liability:
* Ray Kassis, N4LEM
* Dana Rodakis, K4LK
* (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M
* Chuck Lavender, W4CLL
* Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the
* Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the
organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida.
* Establish a development process for new policies from the
* Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical
* De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be
acc_essible to the public showing all history of an application through
* No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database.
* Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit
serving the public interest must be.
I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the
Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if
you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign
it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text
message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so.
It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to
have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida.
_How to become a member of the Florida Repeater Council_
We must make it clear that it is NOT necessary to donate to receive the
services of this A.R.R.L.-recognized agency for Florida amateur repeater
I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot
be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do
intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS
I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016.
73’s and see you at Melbourne,
Bryan Fields, W9CR
P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a
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I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any
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