[FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information

Frank Echanique ki4ijq at flecom.net
Fri Oct 7 16:37:04 EDT 2016


you can threaten me all you like but I've heard it from several hams, so
unless the entire south florida ham community is out to get you.... and
when I was looking for a pair there were none available but there was a 2m
repeater for sale and you would get the pair for free... anyway you know as
well as I do that getting a 2M pair down here was impossible for anyone
except a select few people, and a ton of people had backyard repeaters
using up pairs for no reason

and then my favorite, I put a repeater up on 147.345 that was coordinated
in district 2 to a silent key (seriously) and was off the air, a couple
weeks later they discovered the error and said they were putting it up and
the coordination was given to someone else but hadn't been updated in the
listings blah blah blah

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 5:08 AM, hernandeznilo <hernandeznilo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Frank Echanique, you are a liar in big terms. Bring up one person that
> paid me for a freq. pair. Never in my life I did that. Dont press your
> luck! W4HN
>
>
>
> Please pardon my errors as the cell changes some, pardon typos and
> grammatical errors in advance should they appear.
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 5.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Frank Echanique <ki4ijq at flecom.net>
> Date: 10/4/16 11:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info at lists.keekles.org>
> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>
> I tried years ago and gave up… The FRC completely killed any interest I
> had in ham radio repeaters… before you had to buy your repeater pairs from
> the district coordinator and after he was removed our district was
> dissolved and given to district 2, which is where most of our problems came
> from…
>
> At this point I have no idea if my repeaters are even coordinated anymore
> and honestly I don't care, they are on a government building sponsored by
> the Miami Dade Office of Emergency Management, and the only reason I
> maintain them is because they (MD-OEM) have asked me to.. if it ever became
> a problem I would just turn them off… then Miami would have exactly zero
> wide-area VHF repeaters and district 2 would finally win
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:40 PM, mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com <
> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Frank,
>>
>>
>> Might give more details of your experience with the FRC.   I think if any
>> problems one has with FRC is voiced to the repeater community and the FRC,
>> it will be addressed.
>>
>>
>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>
>> Ron Wright, N9EE/R
>> BSEE
>> Micro Computer Concepts
>> 352-683-4476
>> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Frank
>> Echanique <ki4ijq at flecom.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:28 PM
>>
>> *To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>
>> people have had good interactions with the FRC? I can assure you that
>> wasn't my experience…
>>
>> I don't think I have ever dealt with a more dysfunctional organization
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:24 PM, kg4ugk <kg4ugk at kg4ugk.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Seeing that no one opted in for this email list, FRC did not provide him
>>> with contact information, and in fact tried/attempted to keep our
>>> information private.
>>>
>>> And the fact Bryan owns/hosts lists.keekles.org (the server responsible
>>> for this newly created list)
>>>
>>> I suggest that you contact his registrar/hosting providers abuse system
>>> to form a complaint.
>>>
>>> Enom.com:
>>> abuse at enom.com
>>>
>>> Registrant Name: BRYAN FIELDS
>>> Registrant Organization:
>>> Registrant Street: 501 80TH AVE
>>> Registrant City: ST PETE BEACH
>>> Registrant State/Province: FL
>>> Registrant Postal Code: 33706
>>> Registrant Country: US
>>> Registrant Phone: +1.7274091194
>>> Registrant Phone Ext:
>>> Registrant Fax: +1.5555555555
>>> Registrant Fax Ext:
>>> Registrant Email:
>>> <http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=c4af5e29ad2bf1ea52b555562b4b59f4>
>>> Registrar Abuse Contact: +1.4252982646 abuse at enom.com
>>>
>>> And as many of us have spoken up about our past successful interactions
>>> and the fact Bryan decided to leave them out on this thread, I've decided
>>> to copy the 'accused' on this email.
>>>
>>> He has clearly stated his request for our personal information was with
>>> held by the FRC, and that he proceeded to seek alternative means of
>>> acquiring our information in an effort to contact us.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Bob Dunkin <rldunkin at comcast.net>
>>> Date: 10/4/16 7:17 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: 'Florida Repeater Council Discussion' <frc-info at lists.keekles.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>
>>> unsubscribe
>>>
>>> *From:* vernon ferris <vhferris at comcast.net>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 6:09 PM
>>> *To:* 'Florida Repeater Council Discussion' <frc-info at lists.keekles.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ron and John,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have dealt with Dana on three repeaters, mine and two that the county
>>> turned over to me as ARES EC for the county and as a volunteer himself he
>>> has done a good job. And I agree with both of you.
>>>
>>> Have a good week and keep your feet dry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Vern, W4NEK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* FRC-Info [mailto:frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org] *On Behalf
>>> Of *mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 12:43 PM
>>> *To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I think you are correct.  Just seems I was not getting replies from
>>> others.  have been getting today.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is good to have these discussions and the FRC does need guidance from
>>> us into repeaters.  Just seems one guy has a beef and wants to take over
>>> and he has little to do with repeaters really.  More of a club board
>>> member.  And being into the internet service or an IT guy is very little
>>> tech knowledge of this subject.  Engineering firms do not consider IT guys
>>> technical people.  But they have a valuable place.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the FRC does a good job, but they are often slow.  Our District
>>> 4 director has responded to me quickly in last year when i need assistance
>>> in getting a pair for a repeater.  not sure what other directors do.  Dana
>>> is very slow, I think he picks one Saturday in the month and works on what
>>> he has received, hi.  But he is very knowledgeable about the issues...has
>>> lots of experience over the last 20 years dealing with the issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Wright, N9EE/R
>>>
>>> BSEE
>>>
>>> Micro Computer Concepts
>>>
>>> 352-683-4476
>>>
>>> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Jon
>>> Pearl - W4ABC <jonpearl at tampabay.rr.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:40 AM
>>> *To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning Ron,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible that you're capturing all of the email messages from the
>>> FRC list server?  It appears that you've somehow arrived at the decision
>>> that all are not allowed to communicate in this venue.  Here are the
>>> archives:  http://lists.keekles.org/pipermail/frc-info/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I posted a message to the group yesterday, and while it appeared to all
>>> on the list almost immediately, I personally didn't see it arrive in my own
>>> mailbox for quite some time.  I see this happen quite frequently on the
>>> Tower-Talk list server.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon Pearl - W4ABC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/3/2016 11:47 AM, mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bryan,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It appears this discussion is between you and us, not between us and
>>> us.  A real discussion would be between all of us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>>
>>>
>>> And once more...
>>>
>>> On 10/3/2016 1:25 PM, mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just like this discussion and whoever started it, they are not allowing
>>> all to communicate.  Do we want this in FRC???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Wright, N9EE/R
>>>
>>> BSEE
>>>
>>> Micro Computer Concepts
>>>
>>> 352-683-4476
>>>
>>> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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