[FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information

Frank Echanique ki4ijq at flecom.net
Fri Oct 7 22:23:38 EDT 2016


Wasn't even for me, was for Miami Dade Office of Emergency Management

Honestly all that is so far in the past I don't even feel like wasting the
energy arguing it

You want to share why you were removed fro district 1?
On Oct 7, 2016 10:15 PM, "hernandeznilo" <hernandeznilo at gmail.com> wrote:

> You are just writing nonsense. I call you a liar because you are a liar.
> Never in my life did I take a penny from anyone. And yes..  you were right
> eith that pair in D2 and I fought for you but at the FRC there is
> discrimination.
> You got a pair as my pwrsonal friend and I discussed it and gave you the
> pair you have for FREE.
> Did you pay someone for it? You are not worth it...
>
>
>
> Please pardon my errors as the cell changes some, pardon typos and
> grammatical errors in advance should they appear.
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 5.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Frank Echanique <ki4ijq at flecom.net>
> Date: 10/7/16 4:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info at lists.keekles.org>
> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>
> you can threaten me all you like but I've heard it from several hams, so
> unless the entire south florida ham community is out to get you.... and
> when I was looking for a pair there were none available but there was a 2m
> repeater for sale and you would get the pair for free... anyway you know as
> well as I do that getting a 2M pair down here was impossible for anyone
> except a select few people, and a ton of people had backyard repeaters
> using up pairs for no reason
>
> and then my favorite, I put a repeater up on 147.345 that was coordinated
> in district 2 to a silent key (seriously) and was off the air, a couple
> weeks later they discovered the error and said they were putting it up and
> the coordination was given to someone else but hadn't been updated in the
> listings blah blah blah
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 5:08 AM, hernandeznilo <hernandeznilo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Frank Echanique, you are a liar in big terms. Bring up one person that
>> paid me for a freq. pair. Never in my life I did that. Dont press your
>> luck! W4HN
>>
>>
>>
>> Please pardon my errors as the cell changes some, pardon typos and
>> grammatical errors in advance should they appear.
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 5.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Frank Echanique <ki4ijq at flecom.net>
>> Date: 10/4/16 11:37 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info at lists.keekles.org>
>> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>
>> I tried years ago and gave up… The FRC completely killed any interest I
>> had in ham radio repeaters… before you had to buy your repeater pairs from
>> the district coordinator and after he was removed our district was
>> dissolved and given to district 2, which is where most of our problems came
>> from…
>>
>> At this point I have no idea if my repeaters are even coordinated anymore
>> and honestly I don't care, they are on a government building sponsored by
>> the Miami Dade Office of Emergency Management, and the only reason I
>> maintain them is because they (MD-OEM) have asked me to.. if it ever became
>> a problem I would just turn them off… then Miami would have exactly zero
>> wide-area VHF repeaters and district 2 would finally win
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:40 PM, mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com <
>> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Frank,
>>>
>>>
>>> Might give more details of your experience with the FRC.   I think if
>>> any problems one has with FRC is voiced to the repeater community and the
>>> FRC, it will be addressed.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>>
>>> Ron Wright, N9EE/R
>>> BSEE
>>> Micro Computer Concepts
>>> 352-683-4476
>>> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org> on behalf of
>>> Frank Echanique <ki4ijq at flecom.net>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:28 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>
>>> people have had good interactions with the FRC? I can assure you that
>>> wasn't my experience…
>>>
>>> I don't think I have ever dealt with a more dysfunctional organization
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:24 PM, kg4ugk <kg4ugk at kg4ugk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seeing that no one opted in for this email list, FRC did not provide
>>>> him with contact information, and in fact tried/attempted to keep our
>>>> information private.
>>>>
>>>> And the fact Bryan owns/hosts lists.keekles.org (the server
>>>> responsible for this newly created list)
>>>>
>>>> I suggest that you contact his registrar/hosting providers abuse system
>>>> to form a complaint.
>>>>
>>>> Enom.com:
>>>> abuse at enom.com
>>>>
>>>> Registrant Name: BRYAN FIELDS
>>>> Registrant Organization:
>>>> Registrant Street: 501 80TH AVE
>>>> Registrant City: ST PETE BEACH
>>>> Registrant State/Province: FL
>>>> Registrant Postal Code: 33706
>>>> Registrant Country: US
>>>> Registrant Phone: +1.7274091194
>>>> Registrant Phone Ext:
>>>> Registrant Fax: +1.5555555555
>>>> Registrant Fax Ext:
>>>> Registrant Email:
>>>> <http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=c4af5e29ad2bf1ea52b555562b4b59f4>
>>>> Registrar Abuse Contact: +1.4252982646 abuse at enom.com
>>>>
>>>> And as many of us have spoken up about our past successful interactions
>>>> and the fact Bryan decided to leave them out on this thread, I've decided
>>>> to copy the 'accused' on this email.
>>>>
>>>> He has clearly stated his request for our personal information was with
>>>> held by the FRC, and that he proceeded to seek alternative means of
>>>> acquiring our information in an effort to contact us.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Bob Dunkin <rldunkin at comcast.net>
>>>> Date: 10/4/16 7:17 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> To: 'Florida Repeater Council Discussion' <frc-info at lists.keekles.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>>
>>>> unsubscribe
>>>>
>>>> *From:* vernon ferris <vhferris at comcast.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 6:09 PM
>>>> *To:* 'Florida Repeater Council Discussion'
>>>> <frc-info at lists.keekles.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ron and John,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have dealt with Dana on three repeaters, mine and two that the county
>>>> turned over to me as ARES EC for the county and as a volunteer himself he
>>>> has done a good job. And I agree with both of you.
>>>>
>>>> Have a good week and keep your feet dry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Vern, W4NEK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* FRC-Info [mailto:frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 12:43 PM
>>>> *To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I think you are correct.  Just seems I was not getting replies
>>>> from others.  have been getting today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is good to have these discussions and the FRC does need guidance
>>>> from us into repeaters.  Just seems one guy has a beef and wants to take
>>>> over and he has little to do with repeaters really.  More of a club board
>>>> member.  And being into the internet service or an IT guy is very little
>>>> tech knowledge of this subject.  Engineering firms do not consider IT guys
>>>> technical people.  But they have a valuable place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the FRC does a good job, but they are often slow.  Our District
>>>> 4 director has responded to me quickly in last year when i need assistance
>>>> in getting a pair for a repeater.  not sure what other directors do.  Dana
>>>> is very slow, I think he picks one Saturday in the month and works on what
>>>> he has received, hi.  But he is very knowledgeable about the issues...has
>>>> lots of experience over the last 20 years dealing with the issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron Wright, N9EE/R
>>>>
>>>> BSEE
>>>>
>>>> Micro Computer Concepts
>>>>
>>>> 352-683-4476
>>>>
>>>> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces at lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Jon
>>>> Pearl - W4ABC <jonpearl at tampabay.rr.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:40 AM
>>>> *To:* Florida Repeater Council Discussion
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good morning Ron,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that you're capturing all of the email messages from the
>>>> FRC list server?  It appears that you've somehow arrived at the decision
>>>> that all are not allowed to communicate in this venue.  Here are the
>>>> archives:  http://lists.keekles.org/pipermail/frc-info/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I posted a message to the group yesterday, and while it appeared to all
>>>> on the list almost immediately, I personally didn't see it arrive in my own
>>>> mailbox for quite some time.  I see this happen quite frequently on the
>>>> Tower-Talk list server.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jon Pearl - W4ABC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/3/2016 11:47 AM, mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bryan,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It appears this discussion is between you and us, not between us and
>>>> us.  A real discussion would be between all of us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And once more...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/3/2016 1:25 PM, mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just like this discussion and whoever started it, they are not allowing
>>>> all to communicate.  Do we want this in FRC???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron Wright, N9EE/R
>>>>
>>>> BSEE
>>>>
>>>> Micro Computer Concepts
>>>>
>>>> 352-683-4476
>>>>
>>>> mccrpt at tampabay.rr.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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