Let me just say this question has been answered several times before. There are reasons at this time to NOT release source. If someone does not like that the source for Acid the base of all Allstar variants is freely available. If you see a problem or fix a problem based on that code it most certainly could be incorporated into our code. To date no one has submitted any code to us! This list is for those having issues with the hamvoip code and we always welcome ideas and suggestions for improvements and we do take then into consideration. We also very promptly fix any problems unlike other variants. Unlike on other forums anyone who starts whining about we should do this or that will be moderated period. The rest of the readers to not want to hear that. If you do not like that then go elsewhere. Allstar code is VERY complex and convoluted. It is sometimes referred to as "spaghetti code." We are working hard to improve that and the overall efficiency of the code and I believe we have done a great job so far. *73 Doug* *WA3DSP* -- --- "What are HB_Bridge, IPSC_Bridge and Analog_Bridge?"