I just received a batch of cabled version of the CM108 quoted devices form an Ebay seller, called " Music Fairy ". They are a usb cable and pigtails for audio in and out, with a sealed plastic case in the middle.. They identify themselves with C-Media drivers to Windows XP so these devices are still shipping with CM1xx chips. Probably not greatly suitable for AllStar etc as you cannot exactly crack them open easily.. but maybe surgical dis-assembly.. as they are not your typical black sound fob.. However they would work for other things like GMSK etc for other projects. Doug KD8B From: Doug Bade [mailto:kd8b@thebades.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:22 PM To: 'app_rpt mailing list' Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs Jim; I am not even necessarily advocating them for this application. What I can say is ALL of the USB 7.1 devices I have bought or physically have had access to have either CM1xx or SSS1623 chipsets.. the 5.1 marked devices. all bets are off.. In all the 7.1 sound devices I bought that used to be CM1xx, current shipped product have the SSS1623 chips. ( I have bought at least 8 or 10 lots of various sellers on Ebay).