I recently was contacted by some one through facebook that was using Crompton's image and was wondering exactly what is different between there image and the dial image when it comes to simple usb... This individual made their own USB fob however it would not work at all with the dial distro.. Maybe I did some thing wrong i don't know but all i have to say is that it worked just very low audio on the Cromptons image.. The issue here is that the branch is so different conventional Debian commands don't work in Arch linux and the way that it seems to recognize different USB sound fobs makes me wonder first off how many other new comers to the allstar community are confused.. I know i would be thats for sure..I guess i am venting more than informing but if some one has an idea what possibly they changed to over ride the modules.conf files etc.. That would be great.. Because even with noload in modeles.conf the echochan driver was still working mysteriously.. -- Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) Email: lorentedford@gmail.com Email: KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com http://www.lorentedford.com http://www.kc9zhv.com http://forum.kc9zhv.com http://hub.kc9zhv.com http://Ltcraft.net http://voipham.com