Oh...Shane, believe me, I haven't a clue what I'm doing. If I can make this work, it's gonna be by gosh and by golly! -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy@brannan.name
On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:12 PM, Shane Morris <edgecomberts@gmail.com> wrote:
You know, that could be quite interesting, a "handheld" with a micro ARM brain. Sing, dance, make you coffee? Does it all!
Surely the hardware is there. Thats not really the issue, a USB port, or an SPI breakout is going to behave like the ones on the RPi ,and every other piece of hardware known to man. The issue is the software, and not even that really, but the documentation for it, allowing one to create various bits of code to make DIAL work. These Chinese chips are bloody brilliant, on paper, until you realise, there is no way to make them do the fancy stuff, unless you are fluent in technical Mandarin. That I don't have, but I can get Russian and Polish translated to English easily... hmmm.
Point in case, I obtained a Orange Pi H3 board (Allwinner H3 64-bit ARM, I think its a Cortex-A53 of some sort) recently, and the set up was beyond agonising. I did get it going, to my credit, the stupidest thing with it was, it would not detect any of my Arduino serial interfaces, and there was no instructions to patch the kernel with the correct modules which are standard on every other modern kernel I ever come across. But it run the IDE just fine. There was a week I simply could not get the ethernet to work, no matter what I tried, in the end, it was complete dumb luck by bruteforcing flashes of different firmware until I hit one that worked. Once that happened, I took a dd dump of that SD card, let me tell you!
While I'm all for getting our fancy software running on every bit of ARM hardware out there... sometimes its not that easy.
Further food for thought, I once contacted the fellow who is considered the man when it comes to porting Plan 9 to new hardware platforms. I wanted a port of Plan 9 to the Dragino (which is now the brains of the Arduino Yun as well). I low balled him on the contract, he said it wasn't even worth his time. He said it would be easy for him given the Dragino spec hardware I was getting for him had a serial debug port, but the colour of my money wasn't quite right. You can tell I shelved that one pretty quickly.
I'm not saying this to be negative, I'm only outlining it to illustrate the hurdles. As far as I remember, I was the first person on the list to suggest the original RPi as a development target. Jim Dude told me straight out, that wasn't going to happen. When Doug come up with the goods, I was beyond surprised, but I've never looked at his code. Needless to say, I think the code is genius, and mere mortals like myself can only stand on the shoulders of such giants. It was also around the time Doug come out with his initial code packages that I took a backseat from this world, as I was put on standby for all the work I had been doing up till that point with voting RoIP networks. The knock on effect is, I haven't seen my good friends who assist me on that weekend for two years. I only ever see them once a year, but they remain close friends. I'm wondering if I can make a comeback this September? I'll pick up Andrews system in a flash, hes made quite a few changes, dropped the GoIP, all outside links are totally VoIP over 3G/ 4G, the 700MHz LTE-A network in Australia has come on brilliantly in the last year or so (I obtained my first 4G mobile six months ago, and I sit right on top of a good, consistently fast cell).
If you come up with anything, you had want to believe, I'll be all ears. Some of the work I've seen in this group, and ARM app_rpt really is quite brilliant, and my hats off to everyone who makes this all happen, even if you're just a guy who uses the software, and sometimes submits bug reports.
Keep up the good work gents! Ignore my $0.02 if needed.
Shane.
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Buddy Brannan <buddy@brannan.name> wrote: Hi y'all,
Well...this could be fun...
I just got the CHIP from http://www.getchip.com
They're finally catching up all these preorders; I orderd way back after Thanksgiving when they had $1 off, so you could get the $9 CHIP for $8. Well, really, $13, because of $5 shipping. OK fine. If you thought the Pi was small, this thing is even smaller. Built-in wifi and bluetooth, 4GB onboard storage., 1 USB port, 1 micro USB (which I think can also send data, but is mostly for power), one connectory for audio out+video or audio out+mic in No SD card slot...I don't think it's big enough for one anyway. Oh, and no ethernet. Again, is it even big enough? Now...if I can get a version of DIAL rolled together for it. ...or a version of asterisk with app_rpt built on its Ubuntu derivative... Heck...the USB audio interface might just be bigger than the computer. *Hmm* And interestingly, this is slightly more than. bare circuit board, even with no case on it it actually has the board mounted in something. I really could just about see a handheld All Star node with one of these s trapped to the back of a handheld.
-- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy@brannan.name
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