I have been testing more and found some strange firewall questions and or behavior... I think it can be traced to connects arriving on other ports besides 4569. It seems I can connect from my 27013 to 2235 but not to 2364 which is in the same box as 2235.. I can connect from 2235 to 2364 and from 2364 to 2237. So sounds like an internet routing issue.. I think Steve or some one set 2235 for 4569 only in the database which might explain why it is working ok.. I would like to fix the firewalls in question so thinking it is a port forward issue.. what else can a IAX stream arrive on besides 4569 ??? I sent my configs in the email Friday... it appears in the archives.... if anyone wants to review. them. I do not think it is an app_rpt issue as much as a firewall issue... I know I have asked a couple times, but I am reasking as I do not know which one may be getting through.... Thanks and help?? Doug KD8B