Well, fine. First they gave me hassles a few years ago about having an echolink node but not using their software. Now this? Y'know what? Let them keep their awful audio and the lids, kids and space cadets they attract. I block all but a handful of echolink nodes for those who normally connect just to avoid the horrid audio. But one or two "usual" connections regularly have other connections going to some of the worlds worst audio (usually from San Antonio). And because one of their annointed three couldn't connect to me they kicked up a fuss, so there are three callsigns in my accept list for them. So when I get home from the office today I'll nuke my echolink port, good riddance to the trash and idiots that wouldn't know the business end of a soldering iron.Never used IRLP. Stopped any thought of it when I got to the part where they wanted to sell me something and I had no control over stuff. No way. (I think I have an opinion on these things) GeorgeC W2DB 2360