Hi, group! I'm new to app_rpt RoIP, coming from a background with IRLP. I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried virtualizing AllStar, and if so, were there any issues. Thanks! Jonathan On Jun 23, 2013 10:39 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin@kb9lfz.com> wrote:
Robert,
I am using a Neoware CA-22. It is both server and node on one machine. I do not have any other machines for my allstar node. While watching top, the CPU has yet to get busier than 0.4. It is using DSP for audio, and runs without fail.
It has 12Vdc input with a standard barrel plug. Not sure what the low voltage cut-off is, but it runs fine on a SLA battery that just came from an auto charger that goes to float after bulk charging brings it up to 14.1V. The current draw varies, usually above 500mA at idle, and about 750mA when I'm talking to or listening on the node.
It has a 1GHz processor, 1GB RAM and 1GB flash drive. I used what I had, but you will have space left over if you are only able to get 512MB RAM and 512MB flash.
I don't remember if I am using Limey Linux for VIA or i686. I am thinking it's the for for i686 as I tried loading other linux distros for VIA on there before I got into allstar and they just plain sucked and didn't work for garbage.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 20:50 -0500, Robert Garcia wrote:
All,
I am looking for recommendations on small, preferably inexpensive, systems that are capable of running on 12v to take advantage of the redundant power systems at our sites.
I would like it to support at least two nodes running simpleusb as I don't need the DSP processing capabilities. The idea is that these systems would be connected to a port on an existing controller.
I expect that HP thin clients are going to be my best bet, but there seem to be many different models so I don't know where to begin.
Suggestions or thoughts?
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Why virtualize (I am assuming you are thinking of a third party product) this is linux a multi-tasking environment. You can run both on the same machine. Keith On 6/26/13 1:11 PM, "Jonathan Weirmeir" <jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, group!
I'm new to app_rpt RoIP, coming from a background with IRLP.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried virtualizing AllStar, and if so, were there any issues.
Thanks!
Jonathan
On Jun 23, 2013 10:39 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin@kb9lfz.com> wrote:
Robert,
I am using a Neoware CA-22. It is both server and node on one machine. I do not have any other machines for my allstar node. While watching top, the CPU has yet to get busier than 0.4. It is using DSP for audio, and runs without fail.
It has 12Vdc input with a standard barrel plug. Not sure what the low voltage cut-off is, but it runs fine on a SLA battery that just came from an auto charger that goes to float after bulk charging brings it up to 14.1V. The current draw varies, usually above 500mA at idle, and about 750mA when I'm talking to or listening on the node.
It has a 1GHz processor, 1GB RAM and 1GB flash drive. I used what I had, but you will have space left over if you are only able to get 512MB RAM and 512MB flash.
I don't remember if I am using Limey Linux for VIA or i686. I am thinking it's the for for i686 as I tried loading other linux distros for VIA on there before I got into allstar and they just plain sucked and didn't work for garbage.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 20:50 -0500, Robert Garcia wrote:
All,
I am looking for recommendations on small, preferably inexpensive, systems that are capable of running on 12v to take advantage of the redundant power systems at our sites.
I would like it to support at least two nodes running simpleusb as I don't need the DSP processing capabilities. The idea is that these systems would be connected to a port on an existing controller.
I expect that HP thin clients are going to be my best bet, but there seem to be many different models so I don't know where to begin.
Suggestions or thoughts?
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It is so low in overhead, that for one or two radio systems, you can run it on a 5-year-old laptop. Did that for a couple years till I migrated to an old minitower that was displaced by an iMac for the better half. I reboot it every couple months just because, but, there are plenty of systems out there with bodacious uptime numbers. Picked up a couple fresh-loaded Dells at a hamfest a couple months ago; they run the software fine. Even running it on an 8-year-old IBM minidesktop with 4 gig of ram and a 1.2 gig processor. Don't overthink it or over subscribe/complicate it. Works fine on old iron up to a point. And keeps those processors processing.
Just to be clear, I dumped IRLP a long time ago. Reasons include, but are not limited to, IRLP being a giant kludge. I'll save the IRLP bashing for another day. I like virtualizing for security reasons, as well as reducing the electric bill from having to run multiple different systems. I've had good results so far virtualizing with VirtualBox. Just wondering if AllStar plays well virtualized, especially with the URI and USB sound fobs. -J On Jun 26, 2013 1:16 PM, "Keith Goobie" <keith@goobie.org> wrote:
Why virtualize (I am assuming you are thinking of a third party product) – this is linux – a multi-tasking environment. You can run both on the same machine.
Keith
On 6/26/13 1:11 PM, "Jonathan Weirmeir" <jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, group!
I'm new to app_rpt RoIP, coming from a background with IRLP.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried virtualizing AllStar, and if so, were there any issues.
Thanks!
Jonathan
On Jun 23, 2013 10:39 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin@kb9lfz.com> wrote:
Robert,
I am using a Neoware CA-22. It is both server and node on one machine. I do not have any other machines for my allstar node. While watching top, the CPU has yet to get busier than 0.4. It is using DSP for audio, and runs without fail.
It has 12Vdc input with a standard barrel plug. Not sure what the low voltage cut-off is, but it runs fine on a SLA battery that just came from an auto charger that goes to float after bulk charging brings it up to 14.1V. The current draw varies, usually above 500mA at idle, and about 750mA when I'm talking to or listening on the node.
It has a 1GHz processor, 1GB RAM and 1GB flash drive. I used what I had, but you will have space left over if you are only able to get 512MB RAM and 512MB flash.
I don't remember if I am using Limey Linux for VIA or i686. I am thinking it's the for for i686 as I tried loading other linux distros for VIA on there before I got into allstar and they just plain sucked and didn't work for garbage.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 20:50 -0500, Robert Garcia wrote:
All,
I am looking for recommendations on small, preferably inexpensive, systems that are capable of running on 12v to take advantage of the redundant power systems at our sites.
I would like it to support at least two nodes running simpleusb as I don't need the DSP processing capabilities. The idea is that these systems would be connected to a port on an existing controller.
I expect that HP thin clients are going to be my best bet, but there seem to be many different models so I don't know where to begin.
Suggestions or thoughts?
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The URI will not work with a virtual server. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jonathan Weirmeir < jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to be clear, I dumped IRLP a long time ago. Reasons include, but are not limited to, IRLP being a giant kludge. I'll save the IRLP bashing for another day.
I like virtualizing for security reasons, as well as reducing the electric bill from having to run multiple different systems. I've had good results so far virtualizing with VirtualBox.
Just wondering if AllStar plays well virtualized, especially with the URI and USB sound fobs.
-J
On Jun 26, 2013 1:16 PM, "Keith Goobie" <keith@goobie.org> wrote:
Why virtualize (I am assuming you are thinking of a third party product) – this is linux – a multi-tasking environment. You can run both on the same machine.
Keith
On 6/26/13 1:11 PM, "Jonathan Weirmeir" <jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, group!
I'm new to app_rpt RoIP, coming from a background with IRLP.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried virtualizing AllStar, and if so, were there any issues.
Thanks!
Jonathan
On Jun 23, 2013 10:39 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin@kb9lfz.com> wrote:
Robert,
I am using a Neoware CA-22. It is both server and node on one machine. I do not have any other machines for my allstar node. While watching top, the CPU has yet to get busier than 0.4. It is using DSP for audio, and runs without fail.
It has 12Vdc input with a standard barrel plug. Not sure what the low voltage cut-off is, but it runs fine on a SLA battery that just came from an auto charger that goes to float after bulk charging brings it up to 14.1V. The current draw varies, usually above 500mA at idle, and about 750mA when I'm talking to or listening on the node.
It has a 1GHz processor, 1GB RAM and 1GB flash drive. I used what I had, but you will have space left over if you are only able to get 512MB RAM and 512MB flash.
I don't remember if I am using Limey Linux for VIA or i686. I am thinking it's the for for i686 as I tried loading other linux distros for VIA on there before I got into allstar and they just plain sucked and didn't work for garbage.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 20:50 -0500, Robert Garcia wrote:
All,
I am looking for recommendations on small, preferably inexpensive, systems that are capable of running on 12v to take advantage of the redundant power systems at our sites.
I would like it to support at least two nodes running simpleusb as I don't need the DSP processing capabilities. The idea is that these systems would be connected to a port on an existing controller.
I expect that HP thin clients are going to be my best bet, but there seem to be many different models so I don't know where to begin.
Suggestions or thoughts?
Robert N5QM _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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Save the IRLP bashing for another day? Why.....just call it like it is. It was good in it's day...but so was AM Stereo,Betamax and Furby. IRLP will soon become a memory. After all....who pays $170 for a obsolete PCB with a SSI202 chip on it..... On Jun 26, 2013 8:37 AM, "Michael Hebert" <mhebert1975@gmail.com> wrote:
The URI will not work with a virtual server.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jonathan Weirmeir < jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to be clear, I dumped IRLP a long time ago. Reasons include, but are not limited to, IRLP being a giant kludge. I'll save the IRLP bashing for another day.
I like virtualizing for security reasons, as well as reducing the electric bill from having to run multiple different systems. I've had good results so far virtualizing with VirtualBox.
Just wondering if AllStar plays well virtualized, especially with the URI and USB sound fobs.
-J
On Jun 26, 2013 1:16 PM, "Keith Goobie" <keith@goobie.org> wrote:
Why virtualize (I am assuming you are thinking of a third party product) – this is linux – a multi-tasking environment. You can run both on the same machine.
Keith
On 6/26/13 1:11 PM, "Jonathan Weirmeir" <jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, group!
I'm new to app_rpt RoIP, coming from a background with IRLP.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried virtualizing AllStar, and if so, were there any issues.
Thanks!
Jonathan
On Jun 23, 2013 10:39 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin@kb9lfz.com> wrote:
Robert,
I am using a Neoware CA-22. It is both server and node on one machine. I do not have any other machines for my allstar node. While watching top, the CPU has yet to get busier than 0.4. It is using DSP for audio, and runs without fail.
It has 12Vdc input with a standard barrel plug. Not sure what the low voltage cut-off is, but it runs fine on a SLA battery that just came from an auto charger that goes to float after bulk charging brings it up to 14.1V. The current draw varies, usually above 500mA at idle, and about 750mA when I'm talking to or listening on the node.
It has a 1GHz processor, 1GB RAM and 1GB flash drive. I used what I had, but you will have space left over if you are only able to get 512MB RAM and 512MB flash.
I don't remember if I am using Limey Linux for VIA or i686. I am thinking it's the for for i686 as I tried loading other linux distros for VIA on there before I got into allstar and they just plain sucked and didn't work for garbage.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 20:50 -0500, Robert Garcia wrote:
All,
I am looking for recommendations on small, preferably inexpensive, systems that are capable of running on 12v to take advantage of the redundant power systems at our sites.
I would like it to support at least two nodes running simpleusb as I don't need the DSP processing capabilities. The idea is that these systems would be connected to a port on an existing controller.
I expect that HP thin clients are going to be my best bet, but there seem to be many different models so I don't know where to begin.
Suggestions or thoughts?
Robert N5QM _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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The URI will not work with a virtual server. Not true. I have done it with VMWare. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr@gmail.com> wrote:
Save the IRLP bashing for another day? Why.....just call it like it is. It was good in it's day...but so was AM Stereo,Betamax and Furby. IRLP will soon become a memory. After all....who pays $170 for a obsolete PCB with a SSI202 chip on it..... On Jun 26, 2013 8:37 AM, "Michael Hebert" <mhebert1975@gmail.com> wrote:
The URI will not work with a virtual server.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jonathan Weirmeir < jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to be clear, I dumped IRLP a long time ago. Reasons include, but are not limited to, IRLP being a giant kludge. I'll save the IRLP bashing for another day.
I like virtualizing for security reasons, as well as reducing the electric bill from having to run multiple different systems. I've had good results so far virtualizing with VirtualBox.
Just wondering if AllStar plays well virtualized, especially with the URI and USB sound fobs.
-J
On Jun 26, 2013 1:16 PM, "Keith Goobie" <keith@goobie.org> wrote:
Why virtualize (I am assuming you are thinking of a third party product) – this is linux – a multi-tasking environment. You can run both on the same machine.
Keith
On 6/26/13 1:11 PM, "Jonathan Weirmeir" <jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, group!
I'm new to app_rpt RoIP, coming from a background with IRLP.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried virtualizing AllStar, and if so, were there any issues.
Thanks!
Jonathan
On Jun 23, 2013 10:39 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin@kb9lfz.com> wrote:
Robert,
I am using a Neoware CA-22. It is both server and node on one machine. I do not have any other machines for my allstar node. While watching top, the CPU has yet to get busier than 0.4. It is using DSP for audio, and runs without fail.
It has 12Vdc input with a standard barrel plug. Not sure what the low voltage cut-off is, but it runs fine on a SLA battery that just came from an auto charger that goes to float after bulk charging brings it up to 14.1V. The current draw varies, usually above 500mA at idle, and about 750mA when I'm talking to or listening on the node.
It has a 1GHz processor, 1GB RAM and 1GB flash drive. I used what I had, but you will have space left over if you are only able to get 512MB RAM and 512MB flash.
I don't remember if I am using Limey Linux for VIA or i686. I am thinking it's the for for i686 as I tried loading other linux distros for VIA on there before I got into allstar and they just plain sucked and didn't work for garbage.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 20:50 -0500, Robert Garcia wrote:
All,
I am looking for recommendations on small, preferably inexpensive, systems that are capable of running on 12v to take advantage of the redundant power systems at our sites.
I would like it to support at least two nodes running simpleusb as I don't need the DSP processing capabilities. The idea is that these systems would be connected to a port on an existing controller.
I expect that HP thin clients are going to be my best bet, but there seem to be many different models so I don't know where to begin.
Suggestions or thoughts?
Robert N5QM _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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On 6/26/2013 2:58 PM, David KE6UPI wrote:
The URI will not work with a virtual server. Not true. I have done it with VMWare.
Seems to me, though, it's just layering another level of complexity on something that is relatively simple to set up and get working quickly without having to add in the hypervisor, hardware configuration, network interfaces, hardware assignments etc. to the mix. If your heart is set on virtualizing it, get it running stand alone so you can get through the process and work the bugs out and then move to a virtual box. That way, any bogosity that happens at that stage can be worked on without having to scratch your head whether it's centos 5.6, asterisk, app_rpt, usbconfig, usbradio tuning, or vm/xen/? etc. As for bashing IRLP, it lends itself to being almost an oxymoronic effort. That, and the closed nature and shortsightedness of some...the greed and lack of tech chops of Cameron, and the refusal of the League to recognize Asterisk as a legit linking system...and keep it out of the repeater directory (which is pretty useless in and of itself, which is a different rant...)...well...guess some still watch B&W 4:3 TV too. As for AM Stereo...I have a Kahn exciter here that does AM stereo...:) And some turntables. And ITC cart machines. And an AT&T speakerphone and box of dial phones. and a Dataphone 1200 (wow!). Nothing wrong with paleolithic technology. LOL. BB
You got the cart machines, I got a box of (cart) tape. Sounds like a song! -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Hi, Yes, URI's will work in a virtualized environment, with VirtualBox under Linux, at least....I've done it. I've not been following this thread closely, but, you *can* run Asterisk/app_rpt virtualized, too....But, since, by definition, a VM uses only a time-slice of the host CPU, you must be really careful in what the loading on the host (and other VM's) is. Or, you'll likely get lousy results. But, it can and does work, with care....Now, whether app_rpt needs to be virtualized is another argument entirely. I would probably argue "no" for 99% of the situations. I would guess one case where a "yes" might be viable was where you already had beefy existing PC hardware at a site and didn't want to add another box. You're mileage may vary- 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Michael Hebert wrote:
The URI will not work with a virtual server.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Jonathan Weirmeir < jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to be clear, I dumped IRLP a long time ago. Reasons include, but are not limited to, IRLP being a giant kludge. I'll save the IRLP bashing for another day.
I like virtualizing for security reasons, as well as reducing the electric bill from having to run multiple different systems. I've had good results so far virtualizing with VirtualBox.
Just wondering if AllStar plays well virtualized, especially with the URI and USB sound fobs.
-J
On Jun 26, 2013 1:16 PM, "Keith Goobie" <keith@goobie.org> wrote:
Why virtualize (I am assuming you are thinking of a third party product) this is linux a multi-tasking environment. You can run both on the same machine.
Keith
On 6/26/13 1:11 PM, "Jonathan Weirmeir" <jonathan.weirmeir@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, group!
I'm new to app_rpt RoIP, coming from a background with IRLP.
I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried virtualizing AllStar, and if so, were there any issues.
Thanks!
Jonathan
On Jun 23, 2013 10:39 PM, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin@kb9lfz.com> wrote:
Robert,
I am using a Neoware CA-22. It is both server and node on one machine. I do not have any other machines for my allstar node. While watching top, the CPU has yet to get busier than 0.4. It is using DSP for audio, and runs without fail.
It has 12Vdc input with a standard barrel plug. Not sure what the low voltage cut-off is, but it runs fine on a SLA battery that just came from an auto charger that goes to float after bulk charging brings it up to 14.1V. The current draw varies, usually above 500mA at idle, and about 750mA when I'm talking to or listening on the node.
It has a 1GHz processor, 1GB RAM and 1GB flash drive. I used what I had, but you will have space left over if you are only able to get 512MB RAM and 512MB flash.
I don't remember if I am using Limey Linux for VIA or i686. I am thinking it's the for for i686 as I tried loading other linux distros for VIA on there before I got into allstar and they just plain sucked and didn't work for garbage.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ allstar node 28569
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 20:50 -0500, Robert Garcia wrote:
All,
I am looking for recommendations on small, preferably inexpensive, systems that are capable of running on 12v to take advantage of the redundant power systems at our sites.
I would like it to support at least two nodes running simpleusb as I don't need the DSP processing capabilities. The idea is that these systems would be connected to a port on an existing controller.
I expect that HP thin clients are going to be my best bet, but there seem to be many different models so I don't know where to begin.
Suggestions or thoughts?
Robert N5QM _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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