Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub. I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list. If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database? Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...) Just throwing this out there...TIA. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
Your question is very cryptic.. I dont understand exactly what is your situation.. Do you connect to Scott node as a private node then can hear what is happening on what is conncted to his node? do you connect to his network by vpn then try to connect to the allstarlink network? I never heard of proxy for voip. And if that is what you use I am sure that you need to have different port number for the IAX connection to happen for 2 node. Same with VPN, once you connect to his network by VPN the rest of the insternet see you as being beind the VPN network router, so your node and his will be at the same IP adress for the rest of the world. I know that allstar will use the public adress from wich a node connect to report back to the other node where it is.. But if 2 node report from the same adress they need to be on different port (4569 is the default) please be bit more specific about the proxy thing.. PierreVE2PF From: bdboyle@bdboyle.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 23:03:39 -0500 To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] proxy registraltion Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub. I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list. If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database? Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...) Just throwing this out there...TIA. --BryanSent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
See: https://allstarlink.org/proxy.html
On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:07, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote:
Your question is very cryptic..
I dont understand exactly what is your situation..
Do you connect to Scott node as a private node then can hear what is happening on what is conncted to his node?
do you connect to his network by vpn then try to connect to the allstarlink network?
I never heard of proxy for voip. And if that is what you use I am sure that you need to have different port number for the IAX connection to happen for 2 node.
Same with VPN, once you connect to his network by VPN the rest of the insternet see you as being beind the VPN network router, so your node and his will be at the same IP adress for the rest of the world.
I know that allstar will use the public adress from wich a node connect to report back to the other node where it is.. But if 2 node report from the same adress they need to be on different port (4569 is the default)
please be bit more specific about the proxy thing..
Pierre VE2PF
From: bdboyle@bdboyle.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 23:03:39 -0500 To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] proxy registraltion
Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub.
I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list.
If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database?
Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...)
Just throwing this out there...TIA. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
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Sounds like you are asking if you can register with more than one system using the same node ID number. If you look at your iax.conf file, you will see a line similar to: register=<nodenumber>:<password>@site <nodenumber> = your node number <password> = your password What you haven't told us is what node number you are registering as. Are you actually using your AllStar node number or are you using a private node number in the range of 1xxx? I'm not sure how AppRpt will handle having a single node number registered on multple systems, although the underlying registration process is handled by asterisk and not AppRpt itself. It "should" work, but you never know until you try it out. You would just have to make sure that if you tried this, you aren't bringing in the same audio source from multiple channels (effectively bridging them), since the results would not be pretty -- especially if there are any delays. You can setup multiple nodes with different node numbers and register to different systems. Take a look here for more information: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/49 -Stacy On 01/22/2016 08:03 PM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:
Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub.
I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list.
If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database?
Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...)
Just throwing this out there...TIA. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
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read the proxy docs that scott referenced on ohnosec; I'm pretty much doing EXACTLY what it says there. I've a Pi, running DIAL , connected via a wifi dongle plugged into the Pi into an LTE hotspot, which I can throw in my car along with the radios and duplexer and have a mobile repeater with full allstar capabilities. The reason the proxy, it seems, exists is that the LTE IP address is a fungible/transient thing, which allstar doesn't handle very well as you traverse across tower boundaries. So, in order to have a mobile node, you stand up a proxy, as Scott has done to handle a few of us hackers on our network, and configure alkstar to talk TO IT instead of directly to the mother ship of the allstar network. I'm using an Official Node Assignment. It has registered with Allstarlink before. It's number is 42761. it shows up in the master node list, in my server listing, and in my allmon. It does NOT, however, show up in the active nodes listing, which means that, regardless of whether i can connect to it, according to allstar, it's not marked as active. My question revolves around how to get it to show up in the active nodes list when it registers via a proxy server. I can connect it, but it's hidden in the active node list, even though even my allmon instance sees it. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:19, Stacy <kg7qin@arrl.net> wrote:
Sounds like you are asking if you can register with more than one system using the same node ID number.
If you look at your iax.conf file, you will see a line similar to:
register=<nodenumber>:<password>@site
<nodenumber> = your node number <password> = your password
What you haven't told us is what node number you are registering as. Are you actually using your AllStar node number or are you using a private node number in the range of 1xxx?
I'm not sure how AppRpt will handle having a single node number registered on multple systems, although the underlying registration process is handled by asterisk and not AppRpt itself. It "should" work, but you never know until you try it out. You would just have to make sure that if you tried this, you aren't bringing in the same audio source from multiple channels (effectively bridging them), since the results would not be pretty -- especially if there are any delays.
You can setup multiple nodes with different node numbers and register to different systems.
Take a look here for more information:
http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/49
-Stacy
On 01/22/2016 08:03 PM, Bryan D. Boyle wrote: Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub.
I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list.
If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database?
Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...)
Just throwing this out there...TIA. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
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Just guessing from theory, I think if you want registration of a connection to allstar system, when you connect to the remote node directly as a private node, you will need to have a node description to registrar with allstar. Seems there could be different ways to do the same. The one clearest and easiest could be to have a extra node description (radioless)that was already registered to allstar and connect your 'private' node to it under command mode control ( *4xxxxx ) That node would be your proxy into the "allstar system". But there would be other ways to do it. ...mike/kb8jnm
Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub.
I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list.
If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database?
Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...)
Just throwing this out there...TIA. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
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I think Bryan is doing this: <https://allstarlink.org/proxy.html> Steve On 01/23/2016 12:51 PM, mike@midnighteng.com wrote:
Just guessing from theory,
I think if you want registration of a connection to allstar system, when you connect to the remote node directly as a private node, you will need to have a node description to registrar with allstar.
Seems there could be different ways to do the same.
The one clearest and easiest could be to have a extra node description (radioless)that was already registered to allstar and connect your 'private' node to it under command mode control ( *4xxxxx ) That node would be your proxy into the "allstar system".
But there would be other ways to do it.
...mike/kb8jnm
Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub.
I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list.
If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database?
Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...)
Just throwing this out there...TIA. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
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exactly. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:58, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
I think Bryan is doing this: <https://allstarlink.org/proxy.html>
Steve
On 01/23/2016 12:51 PM, mike@midnighteng.com wrote: Just guessing from theory,
I think if you want registration of a connection to allstar system, when you connect to the remote node directly as a private node, you will need to have a node description to registrar with allstar.
Seems there could be different ways to do the same.
The one clearest and easiest could be to have a extra node description (radioless)that was already registered to allstar and connect your 'private' node to it under command mode control ( *4xxxxx ) That node would be your proxy into the "allstar system".
But there would be other ways to do it.
...mike/kb8jnm
Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub.
I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list.
If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database?
Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...)
Just throwing this out there...TIA. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
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this is a public node 42761. assigned and registered by the Gods That Be. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Jan 23, 2016, at 12:51, mike@midnighteng.com wrote:
Just guessing from theory,
I think if you want registration of a connection to allstar system, when you connect to the remote node directly as a private node, you will need to have a node description to registrar with allstar.
Seems there could be different ways to do the same.
The one clearest and easiest could be to have a extra node description (radioless)that was already registered to allstar and connect your 'private' node to it under command mode control ( *4xxxxx ) That node would be your proxy into the "allstar system".
But there would be other ways to do it.
...mike/kb8jnm
Have a quick question...I've built a DIAL node on a Pi and have (with some great help from Scott KB2EAR) successufully brought it up on an LTE hotspot via wifi, and am using his hub as a proxy, successfully registering (and working) through his hub.
I'm registering to his hub, not the allstarlink registry; so this means that, for whatever reason (assuming because I don't touch the registry...but wouldn't the proxy do that?) I don't show up in the active nodes list.
If this is correct, and assuming you can't register to more than one registry (is that redundant?), is there a work around that would let me proxy my connection, but still also show me as active in the allstar database?
Does this make sense (I'm building out a portable repeater, but want to have a full asterisk instance running rather than an RTCM solution, and the Pi, couple GM300s, URI, and mobile duplexer makes for a nice portable node. Not to mention that if I take the Pi, URI, and hotspot sans radios, I built a speaker amp & Mic interface that plugs into the URI that gives me asterisk connectivity without the radios...in a hotel room or some such...)
Just throwing this out there...TIA. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
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