BeagleBone Black Allstar Official Release
Hello and welcome to the first public release of Allstar on the BeagleBone Black. This represents months of trial and error testing which first started with the Raspberry Pi back at the beginning of the year and was finally successful on the BBB platform. We have had several beta versions out now for over two months with many testers and we had very good reports. There is more to be done but this is a working system that will allow many to get rid of their energy consuming PC's with constantly running hard drives and have an Allstar system that fits in the palm of your hand. The web page I have created gives very detailed instructions on how to download, install, and configure your BBB for use with Allstar. The web page is: hamvoip.org There you will find a link to download the image and also to join the arm-allstar email list. Please try to address questions specific to the BBB and Allstar to the arm-allstar list and not the apt-rpt list. While the code is the current Acid release there are many differences in how things are done on the BBB and the OS we are using, Arch Linux, is much different than Centos or Debian. Please refer to the web page for detailed info on some of the differences. We also recommend that you NOT use the nodesetup routine that is offered on the standard Acid release. In many ways this is faulty and often more trouble than it is worth. For that reason we have renamed nodesteup on the image and made it non-executable. Besides what is described on the web page there is a very detailed how-to describing first time setup of the config files. We encourage you to edit the existing config files rather than wholesale copying your existing configs on top of the examples. There is a little learning involved but in the long run it is good to know how things work by configuring the files on your own. We also encourage you to make image backups once you have your system configured. This will avoid having to recreate your configuration should a failure of some kind occur. While we have not seen any problems with power failures and as far as we know not one SD card has ever failed running Allstar there is always a first time and better safe than sorry. This release does not have the backup/restore scripts that we promised but they will be available soon. Basically what they will do is copy /etc/asterisk and all directories under it in entirety into a tar file and then you would use winscp or a similar file copy program to transfer the tar file to another computer. This would allow you to make updates of the image when new code is released in the future without losing your former configuration. For now you can do this manually. See the howto on the web page for instructions on doing image and directory backups. It is not hard to do and well worth the piece of mind. Have fun and I hope you enjoy your new BBB Allstar node. There will be many more features and upgrades available in the future all of which will be announced on the arm-allstar email list. There are already plenty of experienced users on the list that can help you with any problems you might have. 73 Doug, WA3DSP
Nice write up Doug.. When I get back in Aug I think I'll give it a try.. KE6UPI David On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:
Hello and welcome to the first public release of Allstar on the BeagleBone Black. This represents months of trial and error testing which first started with the Raspberry Pi back at the beginning of the year and was finally successful on the BBB platform. We have had several beta versions out now for over two months with many testers and we had very good reports. There is more to be done but this is a working system that will allow many to get rid of their energy consuming PC's with constantly running hard drives and have an Allstar system that fits in the palm of your hand.
The web page I have created gives very detailed instructions on how to download, install, and configure your BBB for use with Allstar. The web page is:
hamvoip.org
There you will find a link to download the image and also to join the arm-allstar email list. Please try to address questions specific to the BBB and Allstar to the arm-allstar list and not the apt-rpt list.
While the code is the current Acid release there are many differences in how things are done on the BBB and the OS we are using, Arch Linux, is much different than Centos or Debian. Please refer to the web page for detailed info on some of the differences. We also recommend that you NOT use the nodesetup routine that is offered on the standard Acid release. In many ways this is faulty and often more trouble than it is worth. For that reason we have renamed nodesteup on the image and made it non-executable. Besides what is described on the web page there is a very detailed how-to describing first time setup of the config files. We encourage you to edit the existing config files rather than wholesale copying your existing configs on top of the examples. There is a little learning involved but in the long run it is good to know how things work by configuring the files on your own.
We also encourage you to make image backups once you have your system configured. This will avoid having to recreate your configuration should a failure of some kind occur. While we have not seen any problems with power failures and as far as we know not one SD card has ever failed running Allstar there is always a first time and better safe than sorry.
This release does not have the backup/restore scripts that we promised but they will be available soon. Basically what they will do is copy /etc/asterisk and all directories under it in entirety into a tar file and then you would use winscp or a similar file copy program to transfer the tar file to another computer. This would allow you to make updates of the image when new code is released in the future without losing your former configuration. For now you can do this manually. See the howto on the web page for instructions on doing image and directory backups. It is not hard to do and well worth the piece of mind.
Have fun and I hope you enjoy your new BBB Allstar node. There will be many more features and upgrades available in the future all of which will be announced on the arm-allstar email list. There are already plenty of experienced users on the list that can help you with any problems you might have.
73 Doug, WA3DSP
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It has quite sadly become painfully necessary to "Officially" and publicly state that this release is *NOT* an "Official" Allstar release. It has not been sanctioned by me or the Allstar network. It is something that this person is doing completely independently. I am not in any way trying to infer that there is anything "right" or "wrong", or anything else about it, merely that is in an independent operation and I/we are not in any way responsible for its contents and/or use. Jim WB6NIL From: doug@crompton.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:02:00 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] BeagleBone Black Allstar Official Release Hello and welcome to the first public release of Allstar on the BeagleBone Black. This represents months of trial and error testing which first started with the Raspberry Pi back at the beginning of the year and was finally successful on the BBB platform. We have had several beta versions out now for over two months with many testers and we had very good reports. There is more to be done but this is a working system that will allow many to get rid of their energy consuming PC's with constantly running hard drives and have an Allstar system that fits in the palm of your hand. The web page I have created gives very detailed instructions on how to download, install, and configure your BBB for use with Allstar. The web page is: hamvoip.org There you will find a link to download the image and also to join the arm-allstar email list. Please try to address questions specific to the BBB and Allstar to the arm-allstar list and not the apt-rpt list. While the code is the current Acid release there are many differences in how things are done on the BBB and the OS we are using, Arch Linux, is much different than Centos or Debian. Please refer to the web page for detailed info on some of the differences. We also recommend that you NOT use the nodesetup routine that is offered on the standard Acid release. In many ways this is faulty and often more trouble than it is worth. For that reason we have renamed nodesteup on the image and made it non-executable. Besides what is described on the web page there is a very detailed how-to describing first time setup of the config files. We encourage you to edit the existing config files rather than wholesale copying your existing configs on top of the examples. There is a little learning involved but in the long run it is good to know how things work by configuring the files on your own. We also encourage you to make image backups once you have your system configured. This will avoid having to recreate your configuration should a failure of some kind occur. While we have not seen any problems with power failures and as far as we know not one SD card has ever failed running Allstar there is always a first time and better safe than sorry. This release does not have the backup/restore scripts that we promised but they will be available soon. Basically what they will do is copy /etc/asterisk and all directories under it in entirety into a tar file and then you would use winscp or a similar file copy program to transfer the tar file to another computer. This would allow you to make updates of the image when new code is released in the future without losing your former configuration. For now you can do this manually. See the howto on the web page for instructions on doing image and directory backups. It is not hard to do and well worth the piece of mind. Have fun and I hope you enjoy your new BBB Allstar node. There will be many more features and upgrades available in the future all of which will be announced on the arm-allstar email list. There are already plenty of experienced users on the list that can help you with any problems you might have. 73 Doug, WA3DSP _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
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This supersedes all previous notices. No electrons were harmed in the making of this disclaimer. Have a nice day. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Jim spewed...... It has quite sadly become painfully necessary to "Officially" and publicly state that this release is *NOT* an "Official" Allstar release. It has not been sanctioned by me or the Allstar network. It is something that this person is doing completely independently. I am not in any way trying to infer that there is anything "right" or "wrong", or anything else about it, merely that is in an independent operation and I/we are not in any way responsible for its contents and/or use. Jim WB6NIL Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
You forgot "Not intended to treat, prevent or cure any disease"! ;) The solution is appealing to me, since use of a VirtualBox VM on my existing PC doesn't seem to be practically feasible., and I don't need another heat-generating physical PC in my office/shack at this time of year. I've ordered a BBB to experiment with, without any expectation of official support from the AllStar project (yet?). The use of the term "Official Release" in the subject the email announcement does seem a bit inappropriate, though... 73, ~iain / N6ML On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Bob Brown - WØNQX <bbrown@byrg.net> wrote:
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Jim spewed......
It has quite sadly become painfully necessary to "Officially" and publicly state that this release is *NOT* an "Official" Allstar release. It has not been sanctioned by me or the Allstar network. It is something that this person is doing completely independently.
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Jim WB6NIL
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On 6/26/14 2:25 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
You forgot "Not intended to treat, prevent or cure any disease"! ;)
***Deletia***
The use of the term "Official Release" in the subject the email announcement does seem a bit inappropriate, though...
Yeah, that did seem a bit presumptuous to me. But, whatever. Another fork of the original, not officially supported... "what could possibly go wrong?" -J.Clarkson -- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me. Sent from my MacBook Pro.
While it may not be "official" AllStar release, let me be the first to say that it "Officially Kicks Ass." Thanks for all the time and effort Doug! On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
On 6/26/14 2:25 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
You forgot "Not intended to treat, prevent or cure any disease"! ;)
***Deletia***
The use of the term "Official Release" in the subject the email announcement does seem a bit inappropriate, though...
Yeah, that did seem a bit presumptuous to me. But, whatever. Another fork of the original, not officially supported...
"what could possibly go wrong?" -J.Clarkson
-- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.
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Thanks to everyone for the compliments I will ignore the naysayers. The word official was meant to mean Official of the BeagleBone Black differentiating it from the betas that have been floating around for several months. You can interpret it in any way you like. The bottom line is we are going off in a new direction and things probably won't be the same in the future. If you like that then fine, come join us, if not then you don't have to participate. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 14:22:43 -0500 From: asylthe@kc9ona.com To: bdboyle@bdboyle.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] BeagleBone Black Allstar Official Release While it may not be "official" AllStar release, let me be the first to say that it "Officially Kicks Ass." Thanks for all the time and effort Doug! On Thursday, June 26, 2014, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote: On 6/26/14 2:25 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: You forgot "Not intended to treat, prevent or cure any disease"! ;) ***Deletia*** The use of the term "Official Release" in the subject the email announcement does seem a bit inappropriate, though... Yeah, that did seem a bit presumptuous to me. But, whatever. Another fork of the original, not officially supported... "what could possibly go wrong?" -J.Clarkson -- Bryan In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me. Sent from my MacBook Pro. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
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Jim spewed......
It has quite sadly become painfully necessary to "Officially" and publicly state that this release is *NOT* an "Official" Allstar release. It has not been sanctioned by me or the Allstar network. It is something that this person is doing completely independently.
I am not in any way trying to infer that there is anything "right" or "wrong", or anything else about it, merely that is in an independent operation and I/we are not in any way responsible for its contents and/or use.
Jim WB6NIL
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Hi Jim and everyone, I think Doug probably meant "officially released" since we've had several beta-test releases over the last 6 weeks or so. I'm unfortunately not surprised by your comments, but, am disappointed. As the father of the AllStar project, you should be grinning from ear to ear that your baby has grown to the point that other developers are helping to build *your* network without requiring any of your time. I, for one, hope this isn't another fork in the road. I hope it's just another step in the evolution of this already fantastic radio/repeater control and VoIP solution you envisioned. As a software developer and project manager with decades of experience, one thing I've had to painfully learn is that everybody has there own vision for how a piece of software or a system should function. You can't stifle this creativity. Rather, you have to embrace it and direct it. If the system works reliably, inter-operates (with AllStar) compatibly and is being (pro)actively supported, then you smile and say: Good job guys! We need this feature next! Or, how about finding a solution for that issue??? This shouldn't be a competition. Lets work for a common goal. 73, David KB4FXC On Thu, 26 Jun 2014, Jim Duuuude wrote:
It has quite sadly become painfully necessary to "Officially" and publicly state that this release is *NOT* an "Official" Allstar release. It has not been sanctioned by me or the Allstar network. It is something that this person is doing completely independently.
I am not in any way trying to infer that there is anything "right" or "wrong", or anything else about it, merely that is in an independent operation and I/we are not in any way responsible for its contents and/or use.
Jim WB6NIL
From: doug@crompton.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:02:00 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] BeagleBone Black Allstar Official Release
Hello and welcome to the first public release of Allstar on the BeagleBone Black. This represents months of trial and error testing which first started with the Raspberry Pi back at the beginning of the year and was finally successful on the BBB platform. We have had several beta versions out now for over two months with many testers and we had very good reports. There is more to be done but this is a working system that will allow many to get rid of their energy consuming PC's with constantly running hard drives and have an Allstar system that fits in the palm of your hand.
The web page I have created gives very detailed instructions on how to download, install, and configure your BBB for use with Allstar. The web page is:
hamvoip.org
There you will find a link to download the image and also to join the arm-allstar email list. Please try to address questions specific to the BBB and Allstar to the arm-allstar list and not the apt-rpt list.
While the code is the current Acid release there are many differences in how things are done on the BBB and the OS we are using, Arch Linux, is much different than Centos or Debian. Please refer to the web page for detailed info on some of the differences. We also recommend that you NOT use the nodesetup routine that is offered on the standard Acid release. In many ways this is faulty and often more trouble than it is worth. For that reason we have renamed nodesteup on the image and made it non-executable. Besides what is described on the web page there is a very detailed how-to describing first time setup of the config files. We encourage you to edit the existing config files rather than wholesale copying your existing configs on top of the examples. There is a little learning involved but in the long run it is good to know how things work by configuring the files on your own.
We also encourage you to make image backups once you have your system configured. This will avoid having to recreate your configuration should a failure of some kind occur. While we have not seen any problems with power failures and as far as we know not one SD card has ever failed running Allstar there is always a first time and better safe than sorry.
This release does not have the backup/restore scripts that we promised but they will be available soon. Basically what they will do is copy /etc/asterisk and all directories under it in entirety into a tar file and then you would use winscp or a similar file copy program to transfer the tar file to another computer. This would allow you to make updates of the image when new code is released in the future without losing your former configuration. For now you can do this manually. See the howto on the web page for instructions on doing image and directory backups. It is not hard to do and well worth the piece of mind.
Have fun and I hope you enjoy your new BBB Allstar node. There will be many more features and upgrades available in the future all of which will be announced on the arm-allstar email list. There are already plenty of experienced users on the list that can help you with any problems you might have.
73 Doug, WA3DSP
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Personally, I didn't see anything in Jim's email that could be characterized as "naysaying" or negative in any way. I took it as a very polite email simply clarifying the status of the work from an official Allstar point of view. What I find disappointing is the negative and disrespectful sounding reactions to Jim's email. 73's, Keith KF7DRV Allstar: 2541 (currently down while relocating) On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 3:03 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:
Hi Jim and everyone,
I think Doug probably meant "officially released" since we've had several beta-test releases over the last 6 weeks or so.
I'm unfortunately not surprised by your comments, but, am disappointed. As the father of the AllStar project, you should be grinning from ear to ear that your baby has grown to the point that other developers are helping to build *your* network without requiring any of your time.
I, for one, hope this isn't another fork in the road. I hope it's just another step in the evolution of this already fantastic radio/repeater control and VoIP solution you envisioned.
As a software developer and project manager with decades of experience, one thing I've had to painfully learn is that everybody has there own vision for how a piece of software or a system should function. You can't stifle this creativity. Rather, you have to embrace it and direct it. If the system works reliably, inter-operates (with AllStar) compatibly and is being (pro)actively supported, then you smile and say: Good job guys! We need this feature next! Or, how about finding a solution for that issue???
This shouldn't be a competition. Lets work for a common goal.
73, David KB4FXC
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014, Jim Duuuude wrote:
It has quite sadly become painfully necessary to "Officially" and publicly state that this release is *NOT* an "Official" Allstar release. It has not been sanctioned by me or the Allstar network. It is something that this person is doing completely independently.
I am not in any way trying to infer that there is anything "right" or "wrong", or anything else about it, merely that is in an independent operation and I/we are not in any way responsible for its contents and/or use.
Jim WB6NIL
From: doug@crompton.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:02:00 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] BeagleBone Black Allstar Official Release
Hello and welcome to the first public release of Allstar on the BeagleBone Black. This represents months of trial and error testing which first started with the Raspberry Pi back at the beginning of the year and was finally successful on the BBB platform. We have had several beta versions out now for over two months with many testers and we had very good reports. There is more to be done but this is a working system that will allow many to get rid of their energy consuming PC's with constantly running hard drives and have an Allstar system that fits in the palm of your hand.
The web page I have created gives very detailed instructions on how to
download, install, and configure your BBB for use with Allstar. The web page is:
hamvoip.org
There you will find a link to download the image and also to join the
arm-allstar email list. Please try to address questions specific to the BBB and Allstar to the arm-allstar list and not the apt-rpt list.
While the code is the current Acid release there are many differences in
how things are done on the BBB and the OS we are using, Arch Linux, is much different than Centos or Debian. Please refer to the web page for detailed info on some of the differences. We also recommend that you NOT use the nodesetup routine that is offered on the standard Acid release. In many ways this is faulty and often more trouble than it is worth. For that reason we have renamed nodesteup on the image and made it non-executable. Besides what is described on the web page there is a very detailed how-to describing first time setup of the config files. We encourage you to edit the existing config files rather than wholesale copying your existing configs on top of the examples. There is a little learning involved but in the long run it is good to know how things work by configuring the files on your own.
We also encourage you to make image backups once you have your system
configured. This will avoid having to recreate your configuration should a failure of some kind occur. While we have not seen any problems with power failures and as far as we know not one SD card has ever failed running Allstar there is always a first time and better safe than sorry.
This release does not have the backup/restore scripts that we promised
but they will be available soon. Basically what they will do is copy /etc/asterisk and all directories under it in entirety into a tar file and then you would use winscp or a similar file copy program to transfer the tar file to another computer. This would allow you to make updates of the image when new code is released in the future without losing your former configuration. For now you can do this manually. See the howto on the web page for instructions on doing image and directory backups. It is not hard to do and well worth the piece of mind.
Have fun and I hope you enjoy your new BBB Allstar node. There will be
many more features and upgrades available in the future all of which will be announced on the arm-allstar email list. There are already plenty of experienced users on the list that can help you with any problems you might have.
73 Doug, WA3DSP
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Well said! Forks are not progress. The Allstar community is better served if the smart guys work together towards building a better system. -- Tim :wq On Jun 26, 2014, at 3:03 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:
I, for one, hope this isn't another fork in the road. I hope it's just another step in the evolution of this already fantastic radio/repeater control and VoIP solution you envisioned.
While some may think that jim was naysaying, he really was not. Jim, like me has this warped sense of humor. Hence my post after his and some of the other funny responses, I belive the Jim's post was meant to be a positive one. I have known Jim and the Allstar band of Indians since the early days of App_Rpt. I like the fact that newer and more progressive ways of doing VOIP/ROIP or whatever we call this stuff we do with our repeaters, radios and other hardware/software - Fun. So don't take it the wrong way. Some times you have to make weird posts to break the monotony of things, I believe if Jim did not like what was happening he would have shut it down long ago. Lets all have fun with whatever hardware/software makes it work and enjoy ham radio As KGØR (now WØSO) used to say......... "That is All" -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer@mac.com> wrote:
Well said! Forks are not progress. The Allstar community is better served if the smart guys work together towards building a better system.
-- Tim :wq
On Jun 26, 2014, at 3:03 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:
I, for one, hope this isn't another fork in the road. I hope it's just another step in the evolution of this already fantastic radio/repeater control and VoIP solution you envisioned.
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Jim and Doug, some thoughts and questions. Jim, I don't know if you know much about the forking of Plan 9 into 9atom and 9front...? There was a quote from one of the fork developers to Bell Labs on the 9fans list - "Plan 9 has escaped the Labs..." This is not to say the forks are the representative of Plan 9, but they have their own developers and support systems. This is while peacefully co-existing with Bell Labs Plan 9 (9legacy). I mean, could they be rolled into the mainline? Perhaps. Could drivers from a fork be used in 9legacy? Perhaps. These are all possibilities for the future. At the end of the day, these pieces of software share a common origin, in terms of code base, but don't share support systems. I think Doug mentioned he has a list for the ARM version of AllStar? If so, us ARM people should migrate there. Doug, I was wondering if your ARM release has similar support for RTCMs like the ACiD release of AllStar? I wish to use RTCMs as a voter network, this has never been a secret, but I suppose, realistically, the BBBs could become a sort of RTCM. Anyway, let me know what goes in terms of RTCMs - I think having a low power voting network would fit my needs rather well! Many thanks guys! Sent from my iPad
On 27 Jun 2014, at 4:04 am, Jim Duuuude <telesistant@hotmail.com> wrote:
It has quite sadly become painfully necessary to "Officially" and publicly state that this release is *NOT* an "Official" Allstar release. It has not been sanctioned by me or the Allstar network. It is something that this person is doing completely independently.
I am not in any way trying to infer that there is anything "right" or "wrong", or anything else about it, merely that is in an independent operation and I/we are not in any way responsible for its contents and/or use.
Jim WB6NIL
From: doug@crompton.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 01:02:00 -0400 Subject: [App_rpt-users] BeagleBone Black Allstar Official Release
Hello and welcome to the first public release of Allstar on the BeagleBone Black. This represents months of trial and error testing which first started with the Raspberry Pi back at the beginning of the year and was finally successful on the BBB platform. We have had several beta versions out now for over two months with many testers and we had very good reports. There is more to be done but this is a working system that will allow many to get rid of their energy consuming PC's with constantly running hard drives and have an Allstar system that fits in the palm of your hand.
The web page I have created gives very detailed instructions on how to download, install, and configure your BBB for use with Allstar. The web page is:
hamvoip.org
There you will find a link to download the image and also to join the arm-allstar email list. Please try to address questions specific to the BBB and Allstar to the arm-allstar list and not the apt-rpt list.
While the code is the current Acid release there are many differences in how things are done on the BBB and the OS we are using, Arch Linux, is much different than Centos or Debian. Please refer to the web page for detailed info on some of the differences. We also recommend that you NOT use the nodesetup routine that is offered on the standard Acid release. In many ways this is faulty and often more trouble than it is worth. For that reason we have renamed nodesteup on the image and made it non-executable. Besides what is described on the web page there is a very detailed how-to describing first time setup of the config files. We encourage you to edit the existing config files rather than wholesale copying your existing configs on top of the examples. There is a little learning involved but in the long run it is good to know how things work by configuring the files on your own.
We also encourage you to make image backups once you have your system configured. This will avoid having to recreate your configuration should a failure of some kind occur. While we have not seen any problems with power failures and as far as we know not one SD card has ever failed running Allstar there is always a first time and better safe than sorry.
This release does not have the backup/restore scripts that we promised but they will be available soon. Basically what they will do is copy /etc/asterisk and all directories under it in entirety into a tar file and then you would use winscp or a similar file copy program to transfer the tar file to another computer. This would allow you to make updates of the image when new code is released in the future without losing your former configuration. For now you can do this manually. See the howto on the web page for instructions on doing image and directory backups. It is not hard to do and well worth the piece of mind.
Have fun and I hope you enjoy your new BBB Allstar node. There will be many more features and upgrades available in the future all of which will be announced on the arm-allstar email list. There are already plenty of experienced users on the list that can help you with any problems you might have.
73 Doug, WA3DSP
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Hi there Doug thank you very much, this was waiting for me. Thanks again. 73s Kind John ea2bkh ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Crompton To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:02 AM Subject: [App_rpt-users] BeagleBone Black Allstar Official Release Hello and welcome to the first public release of Allstar on the BeagleBone Black. This represents months of trial and error testing which first started with the Raspberry Pi back at the beginning of the year and was finally successful on the BBB platform. We have had several beta versions out now for over two months with many testers and we had very good reports. There is more to be done but this is a working system that will allow many to get rid of their energy consuming PC's with constantly running hard drives and have an Allstar system that fits in the palm of your hand. The web page I have created gives very detailed instructions on how to download, install, and configure your BBB for use with Allstar. The web page is: hamvoip.org There you will find a link to download the image and also to join the arm-allstar email list. Please try to address questions specific to the BBB and Allstar to the arm-allstar list and not the apt-rpt list. While the code is the current Acid release there are many differences in how things are done on the BBB and the OS we are using, Arch Linux, is much different than Centos or Debian. Please refer to the web page for detailed info on some of the differences. We also recommend that you NOT use the nodesetup routine that is offered on the standard Acid release. In many ways this is faulty and often more trouble than it is worth. For that reason we have renamed nodesteup on the image and made it non-executable. Besides what is described on the web page there is a very detailed how-to describing first time setup of the config files. We encourage you to edit the existing config files rather than wholesale copying your existing configs on top of the examples. There is a little learning involved but in the long run it is good to know how things work by configuring the files on your own. We also encourage you to make image backups once you have your system configured. This will avoid having to recreate your configuration should a failure of some kind occur. While we have not seen any problems with power failures and as far as we know not one SD card has ever failed running Allstar there is always a first time and better safe than sorry. This release does not have the backup/restore scripts that we promised but they will be available soon. Basically what they will do is copy /etc/asterisk and all directories under it in entirety into a tar file and then you would use winscp or a similar file copy program to transfer the tar file to another computer. This would allow you to make updates of the image when new code is released in the future without losing your former configuration. For now you can do this manually. See the howto on the web page for instructions on doing image and directory backups. It is not hard to do and well worth the piece of mind. Have fun and I hope you enjoy your new BBB Allstar node. There will be many more features and upgrades available in the future all of which will be announced on the arm-allstar email list. There are already plenty of experienced users on the list that can help you with any problems you might have. 73 Doug, WA3DSP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
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David McGough -
Doug Crompton -
iain macdonnell - N6ML -
Jim Duuuude -
Keith Williamson -
Shane Morris -
Tim Sawyer