I don't know what cluster fudge you are referring to. The people doing the development are communicating. Users are getting their questions answered. AllStar is not disappearing. I don't know who decided "not to press on" I don't know what help you want from the current developers. If you are going to learn to code, go for it. Download the source. If you have questions about the code, Just ask. You seem to think app_rpt HAS to move to a newer version of Asterisk. Maybe it does. Maybe it needs to be re-thought. Or just maybe it's working quite well. Over the last year, AllStar has moved to a current supported Linux distribution. It is now on multiple hardware platforms. New drivers are being deployed. New hardware is being supported. New gateways are being designed and built. A lot of us have spent time and energy to document the existing programs and configurations. Your complaint with the "old school mail list" is that there are no attachments. Maybe the place we discuss is not the place for the files. GIT and SVN do a great job of version control and collaboration. Videos are fine to show something to a new user but it does nothing to convey the hard information they need to edit configurations and get a feature going. I sure don't learn from a shaky camera and someone droning on for 15 minutes to find out they never cover my question. Building multiple places to discuss a project does not help move anything forward. It just make it harder to find a answer. If you need a ego boost by starting a forum, fine. More power to you. Anytime someone disagrees, you are "stepping on toes" I'm here to tell you, you are not stepping on toes. You spout words that sound good but you don't know what it takes to do something. I wish you well in your efforts. I hope I did not step on your toes. I'm sure some people will disagree with parts or all of what I have to say. This is just how I feel. 73, Steve N4IRS On 07/14/2016 08:07 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:

Ah interesting.. Yea I decided to start this up after the other day.. All i am trying to is bring some i don't know organization to a cluster fudge.. maybe some video tutorials etc.. We really gotta help out the new comers other wise they get frustrated and give up etc.. The other side of the flip coin is I am personally going to try and learn how to code.. Whether i get help from the already current developers or not I will continue on.. I can't set back and watch some thing as good as this disappear before our eyes because we decide not to press on..

Kinda like the ham IPs lol no one knows about them today but back when they layed out ip addresses they left open ips for hams to use but very few have ever used em.. Kinda sad really but if we do not organize some where and we do not press forward with development then we become stagnant..

Sorry if i stepped on any toes regarding the building of it Just trying to help out the best i know how..

Meanwhile back to the you tube videos and learning c++ If i have to i will rebuilding the silly thing from the ground up lol.. I hope not.. I really hope some where along the line this grows interest and we can get the ball moving and at least have a projected path with in 2 years..

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On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net <mailto:n3fe@repeater.net>> wrote:

Scott n3xcc had already stated there is a forum that can be used and it is already setup and running. I don't remember the address of the top of my head but it doesn't make much sense to have another one that is already there and not getting used.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford@gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com>> wrote:

...

Greetings app_rpt I have decided to try and start a forum with easily searchable titles etc.. In the forum if i get a chance or anyone else they can add you tube videos.. voipham.com <http://voipham.com> I know its very basic and blah.. But it belongs to everyone.. I understand if you don't want to use it because its not an official allstarlink project or what ever.. I am hosting it on one of my web servers its no biggy here and if we can get progress out of our group i call it a success..

I have shot the idea around to a couple of forums where i hang out about allstarlnk or app_rpt development in regards to what it would take to bring us at least some security patches and maybe even if we could update to a newer version.. I will post anything we come across that might be helpful here still in the mailing list but have decided to use the forum primarily this gives everyone a fighting chance and keeps the app_rpt open for what ever it might be needed for..

Here is my thoughts so far as far as in the development side..

1. Do we continue using asterisk as it is and just make program side modifications to secure it.. 2. What is our goal in two years? 3. How long can we operate the way we are on asterisk 1.4.23? 4. Does newer versions work with raspberry pies? 5. How much time if any is anyone willing to donate to working on this project?

Anything I get I will post here as soon as know anything.. At this point i am not turning down any help to starting this project backup I will use any suggestion whether your a ham or not.. I think the goal now is stability and maintaining what we got.. Our future goal should be whether we go down the path with asterisk or just design some thing with in the app_rpt that will connect up with asterisk systems..

Just my two cents..

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I don't know what you mean by "the active directory" The current source to AllStar is at <http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/astsrc-1.4.23-pre/trunk/> This is where it has been for some time. DIAL is at <https://github.com/N4IRS/AllStar> All of my open source HAM radio work is at <https://github.com/N4IRS> You can post bug reports right here on the list. This is where we stand. The documentation is on the allstarlink.org web site. Tim updates it when people submit updates to him. I have no idea what improvement I see in the next 2 years. I have no idea the state of the art in 2 years. I do have AllStar projects I'm working on and when they are ready, I'll announce them. I forgot to mention in my first post, I speak for N4IRS and only N4IRS. Steve On 07/14/2016 09:34 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:

Steve no you didn't step on any toes.. but where is the active directory of where we stand on this development.. Is their a location where we can download the latest early stage development software and test it.. Also where can we post bugs if we run into any of them.. Just trying to see where we stand.. But looking back to the past doesn't help either.. We just need to move forward and publicly share as much as possible putting out as much help documentation as possible etc..

Steve what type of improvements do you for see with asterisk in about 2 years? Where do you think we will stand in features with in two years? What kinda of projects are we working on for one day future release? What are our current goals?

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On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com <mailto:szingman@msgstor.com>> wrote:

I don't know what cluster fudge you are referring to. The people doing the development are communicating. Users are getting their questions answered. AllStar is not disappearing. I don't know who decided "not to press on" I don't know what help you want from the current developers. If you are going to learn to code, go for it. Download the source. If you have questions about the code, Just ask.

You seem to think app_rpt HAS to move to a newer version of Asterisk. Maybe it does. Maybe it needs to be re-thought. Or just maybe it's working quite well. Over the last year, AllStar has moved to a current supported Linux distribution. It is now on multiple hardware platforms. New drivers are being deployed. New hardware is being supported. New gateways are being designed and built.

A lot of us have spent time and energy to document the existing programs and configurations. Your complaint with the "old school mail list" is that there are no attachments. Maybe the place we discuss is not the place for the files. GIT and SVN do a great job of version control and collaboration. Videos are fine to show something to a new user but it does nothing to convey the hard information they need to edit configurations and get a feature going. I sure don't learn from a shaky camera and someone droning on for 15 minutes to find out they never cover my question. Building multiple places to discuss a project does not help move anything forward. It just make it harder to find a answer. If you need a ego boost by starting a forum, fine. More power to you.

Anytime someone disagrees, you are "stepping on toes" I'm here to tell you, you are not stepping on toes. You spout words that sound good but you don't know what it takes to do something.

I wish you well in your efforts. I hope I did not step on your toes.

I'm sure some people will disagree with parts or all of what I have to say. This is just how I feel.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 07/14/2016 08:07 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:

...

Ah interesting.. Yea I decided to start this up after the other day.. All i am trying to is bring some i don't know organization to a cluster fudge.. maybe some video tutorials etc.. We really gotta help out the new comers other wise they get frustrated and give up etc.. The other side of the flip coin is I am personally going to try and learn how to code.. Whether i get help from the already current developers or not I will continue on.. I can't set back and watch some thing as good as this disappear before our eyes because we decide not to press on..

Kinda like the ham IPs lol no one knows about them today but back when they layed out ip addresses they left open ips for hams to use but very few have ever used em.. Kinda sad really but if we do not organize some where and we do not press forward with development then we become stagnant..

Sorry if i stepped on any toes regarding the building of it Just trying to help out the best i know how..

Meanwhile back to the you tube videos and learning c++ If i have to i will rebuilding the silly thing from the ground up lol.. I hope not.. I really hope some where along the line this grows interest and we can get the ball moving and at least have a projected path with in 2 years..

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On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net <mailto:n3fe@repeater.net>> wrote:

Scott n3xcc had already stated there is a forum that can be used and it is already setup and running. I don't remember the address of the top of my head but it doesn't make much sense to have another one that is already there and not getting used.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford@gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com>> wrote:

...

Greetings app_rpt I have decided to try and start a forum with easily searchable titles etc.. In the forum if i get a chance or anyone else they can add you tube videos.. voipham.com <http://voipham.com> I know its very basic and blah.. But it belongs to everyone.. I understand if you don't want to use it because its not an official allstarlink project or what ever.. I am hosting it on one of my web servers its no biggy here and if we can get progress out of our group i call it a success..

I have shot the idea around to a couple of forums where i hang out about allstarlnk or app_rpt development in regards to what it would take to bring us at least some security patches and maybe even if we could update to a newer version.. I will post anything we come across that might be helpful here still in the mailing list but have decided to use the forum primarily this gives everyone a fighting chance and keeps the app_rpt open for what ever it might be needed for..

Here is my thoughts so far as far as in the development side..

1. Do we continue using asterisk as it is and just make program side modifications to secure it.. 2. What is our goal in two years? 3. How long can we operate the way we are on asterisk 1.4.23? 4. Does newer versions work with raspberry pies? 5. How much time if any is anyone willing to donate to working on this project?

Anything I get I will post here as soon as know anything.. At this point i am not turning down any help to starting this project backup I will use any suggestion whether your a ham or not.. I think the goal now is stability and maintaining what we got.. Our future goal should be whether we go down the path with asterisk or just design some thing with in the app_rpt that will connect up with asterisk systems..

Just my two cents..

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svn checkout http://svn.ohnosec.org/svn/projects/allstar/astsrc-1.4.23-pre/trunk astsrc-1.4.23-pre On 7/15/2016 1:50 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

...

I don't know what you mean by "the active directory" The current source to AllStar is at <http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/astsrc-1.4.23-pre/trunk/> I can't figure out how to use this. When I do svn co http://svn.ohnosec.org/viewvc/projects/allstar/astsrc-1.4.23-pre/trunk/ I get a 500 error.

Am I doing something wrong?

Tom KD7LXL

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