In the new version of DIAL, is APRS still supported? boB - W5EVH
APRS is some thing i would like to learn more about. I still haven't had anyone point me in the right direction on how it would really work with allstarlink.. If one knew i would activate it on my repeater and try it out maybe.. But i think i have to have an aprs compatible radio or some thing.. The only way i know how to do aprs is through my cell phone at the current time.. Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) Phone: Fax: Email: lorentedford@gmail.com Email: KC9ZHV@KC9ZHV.com http://www.lorentedford.com http://www.kc9zhv.com http://forum.kc9zhv.com http://hub.kc9zhv.com http://Ltcraft.net <http://ltcraft.net/> http://voipham.com On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Bob Roszkowski <bob@w5evh.org> wrote:
In the new version of DIAL, is APRS still supported?
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford@gmail.com> wrote:
APRS is some thing i would like to learn more about. I still haven't had anyone point me in the right direction on how it would really work with allstarlink.. If one knew i would activate it on my repeater and try it out maybe.. But i think i have to have an aprs compatible radio or some thing..
There are two different things that could be useful: 1. Repeater sends object beacons to the APRS-IS network to indicate its location, frequency, tone, maybe some status telemetry. Like this: http://aprs.fi/#!call=145* 2. Repeater runs igate software, such as Direwolf, so that repeater uses can use PTT-burst APRS transmissions to send their positions through the repeater to the internet. Ideally these would get muted, similarly to how DTMF is muted. Is the purpose of app_gps one of these two things? It looks like app_gps might be designed for mobile Allstar nodes? I must be missing something here. #1 can be done with a simple script and cron. Asterisk does not need to be involved at all. #2 could be done with Direwolf. You would need to mux the receiver audio into Direwolf. Is this possible with the driver used for the URI? I know it would be trivial on a system where alsa is managing the sound devices. An extra $5 sound fob to dedicate to Direwolf might be easier than the software solution. Just some thoughts from someone with more APRS experience than app_rpt experience. Tom KD7LXL
I believe that the implementation of APRS in an Allstar node was to announce the node on the network and its status (Linked to?). That's what I have been using it for many years. This was not designed specifically for mobile nodes. APRS is radio-less and has no tie into the repeater/node. Sincerely, boB - W5EVH On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Tom Hayward <tom@tomh.us> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford@gmail.com> wrote:
APRS is some thing i would like to learn more about. I still haven't had anyone point me in the right direction on how it would really work with allstarlink.. If one knew i would activate it on my repeater and try it out maybe.. But i think i have to have an aprs compatible radio or some thing..
There are two different things that could be useful:
1. Repeater sends object beacons to the APRS-IS network to indicate its location, frequency, tone, maybe some status telemetry. Like this: http://aprs.fi/#!call=145*
2. Repeater runs igate software, such as Direwolf, so that repeater uses can use PTT-burst APRS transmissions to send their positions through the repeater to the internet. Ideally these would get muted, similarly to how DTMF is muted.
Is the purpose of app_gps one of these two things? It looks like app_gps might be designed for mobile Allstar nodes? I must be missing something here.
#1 can be done with a simple script and cron. Asterisk does not need to be involved at all.
#2 could be done with Direwolf. You would need to mux the receiver audio into Direwolf. Is this possible with the driver used for the URI? I know it would be trivial on a system where alsa is managing the sound devices. An extra $5 sound fob to dedicate to Direwolf might be easier than the software solution.
Just some thoughts from someone with more APRS experience than app_rpt experience.
Tom KD7LXL
Not replying directly to the quoted text as it is accurate. I'm using it to start off my thoughts :) Yes, the aprs portion of an allstar node simply announces whatever information you want into the aprs-is 'stream'. You can certainly view on web using http://aprs.fi . Since I run an aprs i-gate+digipeater at the same location as my nodes, the info that allstar injects is also sent over the air via the digipeater. That way, mobiles coming and going to the river will see my nodes popup on their aprs display and know they can use allstar in my area. Now, if I had my act together, which I do not, I would fresh install my nodes onto a DIAL box and then install aprx onto that box as well. Then I'd have all 'machines' on one machine :) Currently have 3 nodes running famously on ACID and the aprx setup on a raspberry pi B (with usb to serial plugged into a heathkit pocket packet tnc plugged into a maxon 4150). Kb0wlf-10 is the pIGATE (clever huh?) Kb0wlf-4 is the allstar box sending out node info You can have the aprx setup also announce the kb0wlf-4 information instead but since they are discrete boxes, I left it alone. (not to mention that the allstar box was running along for years before I setup the aprx box) Chris KB0WLF -- I believe that the implementation of APRS in an Allstar node was to announce the node on the network and its status (Linked to?). That's what I have been using it for many years. This was not designed specifically for mobile nodes. APRS is radio-less and has no tie into the repeater/node. --
app_gps is still there. example config file is there. I have to admit, I've never played with it. "should" work. 73, Steve N4IRS On 9/16/2016 12:16 PM, Bob Roszkowski wrote:
In the new version of DIAL, is APRS still supported?
boB - W5EVH
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I moved my gps.conf file from my ACID version to this one. Enabled in system.conf and I noticed that DIAL does not have a system.conf anymore. I checked aprs.fi and nothing is showing up. Sincerely, boB - W5EVH On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
app_gps is still there. example config file is there.
I have to admit, I've never played with it. "should" work.
73, Steve N4IRS
On 9/16/2016 12:16 PM, Bob Roszkowski wrote:
In the new version of DIAL, is APRS still supported?
boB - W5EVH
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Did you enable app_gps.so in modules.conf? On 9/16/2016 12:31 PM, Bob Roszkowski wrote:
I moved my gps.conf file from my ACID version to this one. Enabled in system.conf and I noticed that DIAL does not have a system.conf anymore. I checked aprs.fi <http://aprs.fi> and nothing is showing up.
Sincerely,
boB - W5EVH
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com <mailto:szingman@msgstor.com>> wrote:
app_gps is still there. example config file is there.
I have to admit, I've never played with it. "should" work.
73, Steve N4IRS
On 9/16/2016 12:16 PM, Bob Roszkowski wrote:
In the new version of DIAL, is APRS still supported?
boB - W5EVH
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I missed that. Modified, tested and now working. Thanks for reminding me. Sincerely, boB - W5EVH On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
Did you enable app_gps.so in modules.conf?
On 9/16/2016 12:31 PM, Bob Roszkowski wrote:
I moved my gps.conf file from my ACID version to this one. Enabled in system.conf and I noticed that DIAL does not have a system.conf anymore. I checked aprs.fi <http://aprs.fi> and nothing is showing up.
Sincerely,
boB - W5EVH
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com <mailto:szingman@msgstor.com>> wrote:
app_gps is still there. example config file is there.
I have to admit, I've never played with it. "should" work.
73, Steve N4IRS
On 9/16/2016 12:16 PM, Bob Roszkowski wrote:
In the new version of DIAL, is APRS still supported?
boB - W5EVH
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