Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 25
Thanks Willem, That was well said. David, release the source code. K5TRA -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of app_rpt-users-request@lists.allstarlink.org Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 6:00 AM To: app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org Subject: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 25 Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to app_rpt-users-request@lists.allstarlink.org You can reach the person managing the list at app_rpt-users-owner@lists.allstarlink.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..." This site is dedicated to the memory of Jim Dixon WB6NIL Today's Topics: 1. Re: Allstar Node (Mike Besemer) 2. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 3. Re: Allstar Node (Mike Besemer) 4. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 5. Re: Allstar Node (Bryan Fields) 6. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 7. Re: Allstar Node (Mike Besemer) 8. Re: Allstar Node (EDPnJAX) 9. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 10. Re: Allstar Node (EDPnJAX) 11. Re: Allstar Node (Willem Schreuder) 12. Re: Allstar Node (Bryan D. Boyle) 13. Re: Allstar Node (Mike Besemer) 14. Re: Allstar Node (Mike Besemer) 15. Re: Allstar Node (cnovey) 16. Re: Allstar Node (Willem Schreuder) 17. Re: Allstar Node (JJC) 18. Re: Allstar Node (Bryan D. Boyle) 19. Re: Allstar Node (Willem Schreuder) 20. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 21. Re: Allstar Node (larry) 22. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 23. Re: Allstar Node (walter) 24. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 25. Re: Allstar Node (Andrew Sylthe) 26. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 27. Re: Allstar Node (David Shaw) 28. Re: Allstar Node (Andrew Sylthe) 29. Re: Allstar Node (jimmy keffer) 30. Re: Allstar Node (Willem Schreuder) 31. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 32. Limey Unix (Todd Lesser) 33. Re: Limey Unix (Mike) 34. Re: Allstar Node (Willem Schreuder) 35. Modules.conf: autoload (Bob Pyke) 36. Re: Modules.conf: autoload (Mike) 37. Re: Allstar Node (David McGough) 38. Re: Modules.conf: autoload (Bob Pyke) 39. Re: Allstar Node (JJC) 40. Re: Allstar Node (Willem Schreuder) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 07:56:51 -0500 From: "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer@cox.net> To: "'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'" <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <000f01d49d1a$78af6c60$6a0e4520$@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM To: app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Bryan, I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere? Larry - N7FM On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote:
However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes also come with the HamVoip software. I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it.
73's
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Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site.
-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM To: app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node
Bryan,
I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere?
Larry - N7FM
On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote:
However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes also come with the HamVoip software. I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it.
73's
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------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:38:50 -0500 From: "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer@cox.net> To: "'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'" <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <000001d49d20$563cda90$02b68fb0$@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wonder if the registration for those sites looks like the info below. Whoever the registrant is, that individual is a total coward. Raw WHOIS Record Domain Name: Registry Domain ID: 2047650657_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-10-25T00:53:18Z Creation Date: 2016-07-29T23:33:44Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-07-29T23:33:44Z Registrar: GANDI SAS Registrar IANA ID: 81 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661 Reseller: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: Domain Status: Domain Status: Domain Status: Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant State/Province: Florida Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766@contact.gandi.net Registry Admin ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766@contact.gandi.net Registry Tech ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766@contact.gandi.net Name Server: NS-157-A.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-66-B.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-236-C.GANDI.NET Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC: Unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-12-26T13:36:00Z <<<
For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://www.icann.org/epp Reseller Email: Reseller URL: Personal data access and use are governed by French law, any use for the purpose of unsolicited mass commercial advertising as well as any mass or automated inquiries (for any intent other than the registration or modification of a domain name) are strictly forbidden. Copy of whole or part of our database without Gandi's endorsement is strictly forbidden. <br /> A dispute over the ownership of a domain name may be subject to the alternate procedure established by the Registry in question or brought before the courts. <br /> For additional information, please contact us via the following form:<br /> https://www.gandi.net/support/contacter/mail/ -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of David McGough Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:19 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Yeah, Like me! Have a look at: http://kb4fxc.com http://kb4fxc.net http://kb4fxc.org Typical behavior of Bryan, W9CR, the blooming idiot! This is the same behavior he uses against anybody who he passionately dislikes. He starts a ugly disinformation campaign. Take the Florida Repeater council, as another example: http://frcreform.org/ Well, the old saying that applies is simple: Give a fool enough rope and they'll hang themselves. W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is. So, if you, too, are one of the "lucky ones" who W9CR has posted LIBELOUS content about, send me a personal e-mail. I would like to discuss the situation with you. W9CR is damaged goods. 73, David KB4FXC On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote:
Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site.
-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM To: app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node
Bryan,
I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere?
Larry - N7FM
On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote:
However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes also come with the HamVoip software. I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it.
73's
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_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:46:35 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1812260843130.3827-100000@goliath.inttek.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Notice that the Registrant state is Florida! Agreed, he is a BULLY and a COWARD. -------------------------------------------------- mcgough@david-vb:~$ whois kb4fxc.org Domain Name: KB4FXC.ORG Registry Domain ID: D402200000007333526-LROR Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-10-25T03:47:18Z Creation Date: 2018-08-25T19:07:53Z Registry Expiry Date: 2019-08-25T19:07:53Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: Registrar: Gandi SAS Registrar IANA ID: 81 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661 Reseller: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Registrant Organization: Registrant State/Province: FL Registrant Country: US Name Server: NS-169-A.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-145-C.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-165-B.GANDI.NET DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form https://www.icann.org/wicf/)
Last update of WHOIS database: 2018-12-26T13:41:38Z <<<
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote:
I wonder if the registration for those sites looks like the info below.
Whoever the registrant is, that individual is a total coward.
Raw WHOIS Record
Domain Name: Registry Domain ID: 2047650657_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net Updated Date: 2018-10-25T00:53:18Z Creation Date: 2016-07-29T23:33:44Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-07-29T23:33:44Z Registrar: GANDI SAS Registrar IANA ID: 81 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661 Reseller: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: Domain Status: Domain Status: Domain Status: Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant State/Province: Florida Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766@contact.gandi.net Registry Admin ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766@contact.gandi.net Registry Tech ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: 393fd6bba52377f8a56fdae18d5e2b45-8987766@contact.gandi.net Name Server: NS-157-A.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-66-B.GANDI.NET Name Server: NS-236-C.GANDI.NET Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: Name Server: DNSSEC: Unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
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For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://www.icann.org/epp
Reseller Email: Reseller URL:
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-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of David McGough Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:19 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node
Yeah, Like me! Have a look at:
http://kb4fxc.com http://kb4fxc.net http://kb4fxc.org
Typical behavior of Bryan, W9CR, the blooming idiot! This is the same behavior he uses against anybody who he passionately dislikes. He starts a ugly disinformation campaign. Take the Florida Repeater council, as another example:
Well, the old saying that applies is simple: Give a fool enough rope and they'll hang themselves.
W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is.
So, if you, too, are one of the "lucky ones" who W9CR has posted LIBELOUS content about, send me a personal e-mail. I would like to discuss the situation with you.
W9CR is damaged goods.
73, David KB4FXC
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote:
Careful Larry... cross the wrong guy and you could end up with a website registered against your callsign linked to a porn site.
-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of larry Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:33 AM To: app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node
Bryan,
I try to refrain from posting to the negative stuff on the email lists. However I must say every time someone makes a post and the word Hamvoip happens to appear in their post you have to follow up with some negative
BS that has nothing to do with the original posting. Nor is it helpful to the poster. Frankly you do more harm than good with all the negative comments while trying to promote ASL. I am sure I am not the only one that wishes you would take your rant someplace else. It's gotten REAL OLD!!! With all your knowledge and ability the help you do provide when
the Hamvoip word DOES NOT appear in a posting is excellent. How about take your personal rant elsewhere?
Larry - N7FM
On 12/25/18 9:57 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
On 12/26/18 12:05 AM, Russell Thomas wrote:
However, I bought a Yellow box from George WB3DZZ. He has taken those BF radios apart and made his connections to that and the sound cards his nodes also come with the HamVoip software. I'd caution anyone from selling pirated software, as it's criminal copyright infringement. I'd hate to see people unknowingly caught up in it.
73's
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------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:55:09 -0500 From: Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <12b9ffdb-ceee-95ae-298a-2752ea3b449c@bryanfields.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote:
W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is.
It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:04:54 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1812260857330.3827-100000@goliath.inttek.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "WE" ???? Yet another, typical delutional outburst. Dude, you're already up to your neck in quicksand. And, you're right, all the world sees this, except you. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan Fields wrote:
On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote:
W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is.
It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You
are a
fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see.
------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 11:56:07 -0500 From: "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer@cox.net> To: "'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'" <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <001501d49d3b$e8593a20$b90bae60$@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So you've file a lawsuit? -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote:
W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is.
It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:08:19 -0500 From: EDPnJAX <edpnjax@gmail.com> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <53DEF23A-3556-4C37-B942-ACE2A78CF9A9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Let it go guys? ALL of you! This isn?t productive, in fact it?s destructive. The list isn?t meant for this junk.
On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@cox.net> wrote:
So you've file a lawsuit?
-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node
On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote:
W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is.
It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see.
-- Bryan Fields
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------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:35:15 -0500 (EST) From: David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.1812261233400.3827-100000@goliath.inttek.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an Internet Bully, you might feel differently. On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote:
Let it go guys??? ALL of you!
This isn???t productive, in fact it???s destructive. The list isn???t meant for this junk.
On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@cox.net> wrote:
So you've file a lawsuit?
-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node
On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote:
W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is.
It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You are a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see.
-- Bryan Fields
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_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:38:04 -0500 From: EDPnJAX <edpnjax@gmail.com> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <0726E0CE-A565-4A76-A765-E1A3D6B86A84@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have been, and just like most everything else in life? ignore it and when they don?t get anything in return they will eventually go away. Like a stray? keep feeding themguys and they?ll return.
On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:35 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc@inttek.net> wrote:
Well, if you were the subject of an aggressive personal attack from an Internet Bully, you might feel differently.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, EDPnJAX wrote:
Let it go guys?? ALL of you!
This isn't??t productive, in fact it's??s destructive. The list isn't??t meant for this junk.
On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@cox.net> wrote:
So you've file a lawsuit?
-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node
On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote:
W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is.
It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You
are
a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see.
-- Bryan Fields
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------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:44:37 -0700 (MST) From: Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1812261000250.17951@baloo.prinmath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Mike Besemer wrote:
So you've file a lawsuit?
I am always surpized how many hams embrace the self-policing for amateur radio, but fail to see the similarities with the GNU Public License (GPL) for software. We as hams have the public trust for billions of dollars worth of spectrum. However, this comes with strings attached, in that we must promote and expand radio technology, and abide by certain rules. So when there are people who jam some nets, or use the spectrum inappropriately, WE take action to address it. Only in the most eggregious of cases does the FCC actually have to take an enforcement action. Just so with the GPL. I as a software developer have the benefit of billions of dollars worth of free software - a free compiler, a free operating system, and yes Jim Dixon's amazing work on Asterisk, all of which is covered by the GPL. Generally the software community self-enforces the GPL, and in the vast majority of cases, it is as simple as releasing the code. I do this because it is my obligation under the GPL, but I also license new work under the GPL because other people help improve what I started, and I still largely get the credit for it. Had the authors of Asterisk said: "We will not release the source code, but we will do a fantastic job in making sure Asterisk does all the things you want it to do", then Asterisk would have remain a telephone system. Only because they released the source code were hams able to extend it to do repeater linking. Only in rare cases where people continue to flaunt the GPL does it take a lawsuit to compel compliance, and these rarely go to trial because the cost of compliance is so trivial - just release the source code and you are in compliance! However, just like it sometimes takes the FCC to make sure that people comply with the conditions of their ham license, sometimes it takes legal action to force compliance with the GPL. In the end the GPL (just like our ham priviliges) is a social contract. We are granted an enormously valuable resource on the understanding that we will abide by a simple rule: you have to make your contribution freely available to others. So I sure hope that this doesn't turn into a lawsuit. That only serves to make lawyers rich. But in the end, it seems to me that the open source model has proven to be much more successful in the long run. I and many others have been able to make a decent living despite making our software available not just free of charge but free to improve. And in the process I have benefitted both in terms of getting credit for my contributions as well as well as from the clever things others have contributed to software I wrote. We don't have to be ugly about it and call people names. But the GPL is pretty black and white about the issue of releasing the source code. I don't know of a single case where somebody has eventually prevailed in arguing that you can start with GPL code and then refuse to release the source for the improvements. The GPL always wins out in the end. -Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 12:45:54 -0500 From: "Bryan D. Boyle" <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node Message-ID: <DDA734ED-3E9A-4FEE-A901-A0FCF41DFEE2@bdboyle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" AMEN. It?s only AMATEUR radio. If it disappeared tomorrow, the world would neither be better nor worse off, in truth. If the legal and moral owners of the copyrights have no inclination to fight it or enforce their rights, in the end, does it really matter what anyone who has no rights to the software thinks? Both versions of the fork have plusses and minuses. In the end, the marketplace will decide. But in the meantime, all the constant bickering and ?who?s is bigger? argument is doing is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It?s just a hobby. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Dec 26, 2018, at 12:08, EDPnJAX <edpnjax@gmail.com> wrote:
Let it go guys? ALL of you!
This isn?t productive, in fact it?s destructive. The list isn?t meant for this junk.
On Dec 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@cox.net> wrote:
So you've file a lawsuit?
-----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 8:55 AM To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Allstar Node
On 12/26/18 8:19 AM, David McGough wrote: W9CR's comments on Reddit about ham radio: "It's now a hobby full of Luddites, racists, and narcissists" just show what a hypocrite he is.
It's not libel if it's true, and in your case is most certainly is. You
are
a fraud and a criminal. We will not rest until you are exposed for what you are and your theft is exposed for all the world to see.
-- Bryan Fields
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