got 8 of the t5630 to play with.. plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet.. all free.. So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware ;-) From: Randy Hammock Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM To: pete M Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don't have time to really mess with it. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote: Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode.. From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work.. too bad... Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun.. ordered them on the 2nd of december.. still nothing ... Grrinnn!! From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The "via" version is ONLY for a couple of VIA motherboards. JIM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Ok, so its not something about the uri. what could it be? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client it has nothing do with the URI at all. Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE. JIM WB6NIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Finally got Limey on the machine.. (Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it..) Limey wont boot properly, it stop at : isapnp:No plug & Play device found So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting. I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor.. too bad, will have to find something else.. Unless someone ahve a solution ;-)))) that would be a very nice xmass present ;-)) Pierre VE2PF From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM To: pete M Cc: APP RPT Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I'm not sure where your removable media will be... maybe in /dev/disk/something? -- Tim :wq On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote: ok , I have some problem here.. Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive. so I have to do it from the machine itself. so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick. I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing.. So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is.. I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better.. Anyone can help?? And By the way Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list Pierre Martel VE2PF From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine it emperically. Download the following image: http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.g... and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent). If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works. Otherwise, it doesnt. JIM WB6NIL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive) they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node.. I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s. If possible, how to i build the thing?? I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable.. So is it possible or am I dreaming? forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine you can see the spec there: http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01... 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i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access?? From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client got 8 of the t5630 to play with.. plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet.. all free.. So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware ;-) From: Randy Hammock Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM To: pete M Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don't have time to really mess with it. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote: Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode.. From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot? From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work.. too bad... Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun.. ordered them on the 2nd of december.. still nothing ... Grrinnn!! From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The "via" version is ONLY for a couple of VIA motherboards. JIM From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Ok, so its not something about the uri. what could it be? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client it has nothing do with the URI at all. Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE. JIM WB6NIL From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Finally got Limey on the machine.. (Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it..) Limey wont boot properly, it stop at : isapnp:No plug & Play device found So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting. I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor.. too bad, will have to find something else.. Unless someone ahve a solution ;-)))) that would be a very nice xmass present ;-)) Pierre VE2PF From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM To: pete M Cc: APP RPT Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I'm not sure where your removable media will be... maybe in /dev/disk/something? -- Tim :wq On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote: ok , I have some problem here.. Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive. so I have to do it from the machine itself. so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick. I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing.. So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is.. I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better.. Anyone can help?? And By the way Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list Pierre Martel VE2PF From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine it emperically. Download the following image: http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.g... and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent). If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works. Otherwise, it doesnt. JIM WB6NIL From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive) they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node.. I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s. If possible, how to i build the thing?? I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable.. So is it possible or am I dreaming? forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine you can see the spec there: http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01... Pierre VE2PF _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users___________________... 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nope, too bad.. got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it.. and of course it have sound.. 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker.. I have hope that this could work.. I have a 20 gig hd in there.. but i dont think it will last long.. I can hear it click from time to time.. I will order a ide 44 pin to cf adaptor and a 4 gb flsh drive.. this will fit in the case and will work I am sure.. but I will do my test with the hd first.. just in case I cant make it work ;-) From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:19 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client got 8 of the t5630 to play with.. plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet.. all free.. So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware ;-) From: Randy Hammock Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM To: pete M Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don't have time to really mess with it. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote: Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode.. From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work.. too bad... Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun.. ordered them on the 2nd of december.. still nothing ... Grrinnn!! From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The "via" version is ONLY for a couple of VIA motherboards. JIM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Ok, so its not something about the uri. what could it be? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client it has nothing do with the URI at all. Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE. JIM WB6NIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Finally got Limey on the machine.. (Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it..) Limey wont boot properly, it stop at : isapnp:No plug & Play device found So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting. I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor.. too bad, will have to find something else.. Unless someone ahve a solution ;-)))) that would be a very nice xmass present ;-)) Pierre VE2PF From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM To: pete M Cc: APP RPT Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I'm not sure where your removable media will be... maybe in /dev/disk/something? -- Tim :wq On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote: ok , I have some problem here.. Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive. so I have to do it from the machine itself. so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick. I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing.. So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is.. I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better.. Anyone can help?? And By the way Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list Pierre Martel VE2PF From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine it emperically. Download the following image: http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.g... and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent). If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works. Otherwise, it doesnt. JIM WB6NIL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive) they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node.. I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s. If possible, how to i build the thing?? I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable.. So is it possible or am I dreaming? forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine you can see the spec there: http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01... Pierre VE2PF _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users -- Randy Hammock Phone: 818-925-4576 _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
well, as long as you have no intentions of using the built-in audio for connection to a radio on an Allstar node.. JIM From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client nope, too bad.. got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it.. and of course it have sound.. 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker.. I have hope that this could work.. I have a 20 gig hd in there.. but i dont think it will last long.. I can hear it click from time to time.. I will order a ide 44 pin to cf adaptor and a 4 gb flsh drive.. this will fit in the case and will work I am sure.. but I will do my test with the hd first.. just in case I cant make it work ;-) From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:19 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access?? From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client got 8 of the t5630 to play with.. plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet.. all free.. So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware ;-) From: Randy Hammock Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM To: pete M Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don't have time to really mess with it. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote: Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode.. From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot? From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work.. too bad... Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun.. ordered them on the 2nd of december.. still nothing ... Grrinnn!! From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The "via" version is ONLY for a couple of VIA motherboards. JIM From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Ok, so its not something about the uri. what could it be? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client it has nothing do with the URI at all. Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE. JIM WB6NIL From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Finally got Limey on the machine.. (Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it..) Limey wont boot properly, it stop at : isapnp:No plug & Play device found So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting. I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor.. too bad, will have to find something else.. Unless someone ahve a solution ;-)))) that would be a very nice xmass present ;-)) Pierre VE2PF From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM To: pete M Cc: APP RPT Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I'm not sure where your removable media will be... maybe in /dev/disk/something? -- Tim :wq On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote: ok , I have some problem here.. Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive. so I have to do it from the machine itself. so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick. I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing.. So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is.. I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better.. Anyone can help?? And By the way Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list Pierre Martel VE2PF From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine it emperically. Download the following image: http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.g... and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent). If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works. Otherwise, it doesnt. JIM WB6NIL From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive) they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node.. I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s. If possible, how to i build the thing?? I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable.. So is it possible or am I dreaming? forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine you can see the spec there: http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01... 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You seem to dislike every onboard audio device.. are they all bad? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:35 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, as long as you have no intentions of using the built-in audio for connection to a radio on an Allstar node.. JIM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client nope, too bad.. got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it.. and of course it have sound.. 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker.. I have hope that this could work.. I have a 20 gig hd in there.. but i dont think it will last long.. I can hear it click from time to time.. I will order a ide 44 pin to cf adaptor and a 4 gb flsh drive.. this will fit in the case and will work I am sure.. but I will do my test with the hd first.. just in case I cant make it work ;-) From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:19 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client got 8 of the t5630 to play with.. plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet.. all free.. So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware ;-) From: Randy Hammock Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM To: pete M Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don't have time to really mess with it. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote: Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode.. From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work.. too bad... Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun.. ordered them on the 2nd of december.. still nothing ... Grrinnn!! From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The "via" version is ONLY for a couple of VIA motherboards. JIM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Ok, so its not something about the uri. what could it be? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client it has nothing do with the URI at all. Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE. JIM WB6NIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Finally got Limey on the machine.. (Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it..) Limey wont boot properly, it stop at : isapnp:No plug & Play device found So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting. I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor.. too bad, will have to find something else.. Unless someone ahve a solution ;-)))) that would be a very nice xmass present ;-)) Pierre VE2PF From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM To: pete M Cc: APP RPT Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I'm not sure where your removable media will be... maybe in /dev/disk/something? -- Tim :wq On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote: ok , I have some problem here.. Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive. so I have to do it from the machine itself. so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick. I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing.. So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is.. I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better.. Anyone can help?? And By the way Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list Pierre Martel VE2PF From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine it emperically. Download the following image: http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.g... and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent). If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works. Otherwise, it doesnt. JIM WB6NIL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive) they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node.. I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s. If possible, how to i build the thing?? I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable.. So is it possible or am I dreaming? forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine you can see the spec there: http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01... 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There is probably at least a 50% chance of any given onboard audio device being miserably awful. We have technical standards that we need to stick to. Audio quality (and consistency thereof) is quite important. JIM From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:09:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client You seem to dislike every onboard audio device.. are they all bad? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:35 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, as long as you have no intentions of using the built-in audio for connection to a radio on an Allstar node.. JIM From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client nope, too bad.. got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it.. and of course it have sound.. 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker.. I have hope that this could work.. I have a 20 gig hd in there.. but i dont think it will last long.. I can hear it click from time to time.. I will order a ide 44 pin to cf adaptor and a 4 gb flsh drive.. this will fit in the case and will work I am sure.. but I will do my test with the hd first.. just in case I cant make it work ;-) From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:19 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access?? From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client got 8 of the t5630 to play with.. plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet.. all free.. So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware ;-) From: Randy Hammock Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM To: pete M Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don't have time to really mess with it. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote: Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode.. From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot? From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work.. too bad... Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun.. ordered them on the 2nd of december.. still nothing ... Grrinnn!! From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The "via" version is ONLY for a couple of VIA motherboards. JIM From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Ok, so its not something about the uri. what could it be? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client it has nothing do with the URI at all. Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE. JIM WB6NIL From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Finally got Limey on the machine.. (Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it..) Limey wont boot properly, it stop at : isapnp:No plug & Play device found So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting. I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor.. too bad, will have to find something else.. Unless someone ahve a solution ;-)))) that would be a very nice xmass present ;-)) Pierre VE2PF From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM To: pete M Cc: APP RPT Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I'm not sure where your removable media will be... maybe in /dev/disk/something? -- Tim :wq On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote: ok , I have some problem here.. Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive. so I have to do it from the machine itself. so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick. I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing.. So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is.. I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better.. Anyone can help?? And By the way Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list Pierre Martel VE2PF From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine it emperically. Download the following image: http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.g... and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent). If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works. Otherwise, it doesnt. JIM WB6NIL From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive) they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node.. I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s. If possible, how to i build the thing?? I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable.. So is it possible or am I dreaming? forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine you can see the spec there: http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01... Pierre VE2PF _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users___________________... 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$0.02 from Central Tejas...the consistancy and quality of the audio using the CM108(type) device is very good. My link to W8VT sounds like a non-repeated, linked one, it's excellent. GE radio my end, Motorola his end. There is a connection usually to my node by an Echolink guy, who, in turn connects to other Echolink people, and that audio is pure trash. And all over teh place as to response and levels. Some of these guys literally adjust via speaker level till it "sounds right", and use VOX instead of decoding/using COS, etc. Echolink has no control of the users. There's a reason to keep it all the same, as long it doesn't get as restrictive as certain other systems. I was tempted to use on board audio on a private link, which never connects to allstar, but eventually didn't want to re-invent any wheels, and found a bunch of CM108 fobs for $6.95 each delivered. GeorgeC W2DB near, but NOT IN Austin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Duuuude To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client There is probably at least a 50% chance of any given onboard audio device being miserably awful. We have technical standards that we need to stick to. Audio quality (and consistency thereof) is quite important. JIM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:09:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client You seem to dislike every onboard audio device.. are they all bad? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:35 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, as long as you have no intentions of using the built-in audio for connection to a radio on an Allstar node.. JIM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client nope, too bad.. got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it.. and of course it have sound.. 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker.. I have hope that this could work.. I have a 20 gig hd in there.. but i dont think it will last long.. I can hear it click from time to time.. I will order a ide 44 pin to cf adaptor and a 4 gb flsh drive.. this will fit in the case and will work I am sure.. but I will do my test with the hd first.. just in case I cant make it work ;-) From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:19 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client got 8 of the t5630 to play with.. plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet.. all free.. So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware ;-) From: Randy Hammock Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM To: pete M Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don't have time to really mess with it. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote: Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode.. From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work.. too bad... Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun.. ordered them on the 2nd of december.. still nothing ... Grrinnn!! From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The "via" version is ONLY for a couple of VIA motherboards. JIM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Ok, so its not something about the uri. what could it be? From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client it has nothing do with the URI at all. Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE. JIM WB6NIL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client Finally got Limey on the machine.. (Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it..) Limey wont boot properly, it stop at : isapnp:No plug & Play device found So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting. I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor.. too bad, will have to find something else.. Unless someone ahve a solution ;-)))) that would be a very nice xmass present ;-)) Pierre VE2PF From: Tim Sawyer Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM To: pete M Cc: APP RPT Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I'm not sure where your removable media will be... maybe in /dev/disk/something? -- Tim :wq On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote: ok , I have some problem here.. Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive. so I have to do it from the machine itself. so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick. I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing.. So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is.. I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better.. Anyone can help?? And By the way Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list Pierre Martel VE2PF From: Jim Duuuude Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine it emperically. Download the following image: http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.g... and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent). If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works. Otherwise, it doesnt. JIM WB6NIL -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500 Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive) they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node.. I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s. If possible, how to i build the thing?? I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable.. So is it possible or am I dreaming? forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine you can see the spec there: http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01... 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Hence the reason why we use the the Allstar method of VOIP and the USB device for audio , Do you really pay attention to how a lot of the Echolink stations sound? most use on-board audio , and it sucks, don't get me wrong there are some fine sounding Echolink systems out there, that is because they used a service monitor and set it up right. But most use the "By Ear Method" and on-board audio they are all over the place. -- Thanks in Advance Bob Brown, WØNQX Kansas City Metro Area http://byrg.net http://kcdstar.byrg.net http://w0nqx.blogspot.com Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Its not how many watts you have, its the SIZE of your watts that matter! -- Johnny Marshall, W0JM-SK -- On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 21:31, Jim Duuuude <telesistant@hotmail.com> wrote:
There is probably at least a 50% chance of any given onboard audio device being miserably awful.
We have technical standards that we need to stick to. Audio quality (and consistency thereof) is quite important.
JIM
________________________________ From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:09:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client
You seem to dislike every onboard audio device..
are they all bad?
From: petem001@hotmail.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client
nope, too bad..
got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it.. and of course it have sound.. 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker.. I have hope that this could work..
Hmmm Well - everybody using the Web Transceiver (and iaxRpt) is using on-board audio aren't they? I have heard some very nice web transceiver audio (and some crappy audio). A lot has to do with the microphone being used - and of course the level must be set right. The reason Echolink generally sounds like a bad cell phone call is that they use the same codec - GSM whereas Asterisk (including the web transceiver) uses ulaw - or at least you can configure it for that. see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/80 On top of that, the Echolink coding is converted from GSM to whatever you are using on Asterisk between nodes (ulaw or g726). Passing a voice through two different coding schemes will do double-damage to it. ulaw provide a much nicer sound at the expense of more bandwidth - more than twice the bandwidth of GSM. But over a standard internet connection, that is rarely an issue these days. 73 Ken
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users- bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bob Brown - WØNQX Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 8:34 AM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client
Hence the reason why we use the the Allstar method of VOIP and the USB device for audio ,
Do you really pay attention to how a lot of the Echolink stations sound?
most use on-board audio , and it sucks, don't get me wrong there are some fine sounding Echolink
systems out there, that is because they used a service monitor and set it up right.
But most use the "By Ear Method" and on-board audio they are all over the place.
I like great audio quality that's way I stopped using Echolink (with a sound card) and went with Allstar. I have Echolink enabled on my Allstar but dislike must Echolink connection because of the poor audio quality and I will disconnect them quickly. I have also disconnected Allstar (nodes and web transceiver) with poor audio. So I think Allstar should have some kind of audio quality polices and standards. ulaw at what 64kb/s v GSM 13kb/s over DSL or higher. Most internet is unlimited anymore at high speeds unless your using a cell carrier. Does anyone use QOS on there router? Anyways Audio Quality is always better. David On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Ken <ke2n@cs.com> wrote:
Hmmm
Well - everybody using the Web Transceiver (and iaxRpt) is using on-board audio aren't they?
I have heard some very nice web transceiver audio (and some crappy audio). A lot has to do with the microphone being used - and of course the level must be set right.
The reason Echolink generally sounds like a bad cell phone call is that they use the same codec - GSM whereas Asterisk (including the web transceiver) uses ulaw - or at least you can configure it for that. see http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/80
On top of that, the Echolink coding is converted from GSM to whatever you are using on Asterisk between nodes (ulaw or g726). Passing a voice through two different coding schemes will do double-damage to it.
ulaw provide a much nicer sound at the expense of more bandwidth - more than twice the bandwidth of GSM. But over a standard internet connection, that is rarely an issue these days.
73
Ken
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users- bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bob Brown - WØNQX Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 8:34 AM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client
Hence the reason why we use the the Allstar method of VOIP and the USB device for audio ,
Do you really pay attention to how a lot of the Echolink stations sound?
most use on-board audio , and it sucks, don't get me wrong there are some fine sounding Echolink
systems out there, that is because they used a service monitor and set it up right.
But most use the "By Ear Method" and on-board audio they are all over the place.
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On 12/26/2011 11:21 AM, David KE6UPI wrote:
I like great audio quality that's way I stopped using Echolink (with a sound card) and went with Allstar. I have Echolink enabled on my Allstar but dislike must Echolink connection because of the poor audio quality and I will disconnect them quickly. I have also disconnected Allstar (nodes and web transceiver) with poor audio. So I think Allstar should have some kind of audio quality polices and standards.
ulaw at what 64kb/s v GSM 13kb/s over DSL or higher. Most internet is unlimited anymore at high speeds unless your using a cell carrier. Does anyone use QOS on there router?
Anyways Audio Quality is always better.
David I always strived for good audio on my repeaters. But QOS does not work over the internet, only MPLS circuits. If you are going over the internet then you have to take what you get. (And I work in this field I now work for Windstream, ex-PAETEC in managed services)
Leon Wa4ZLW
Leon, The there are really two reasons why QoS does not work over the internet. 1. Is that rarely anyone configures a router to participate in QoS (QoS can and is supported at layer 2 and layer 3)... 2. In the event someone wants to participate in QoS, what standard do they use? What p-bit/ DSCP value means VoIP vs best effort Internet traffic? MPLS is not required, and its QoS is based on the MPLS provider and the customer agreeing on how the traffic will be marked (p-bit/DSCP/VLAN etc.) I have layer 2 and layer 3 networks using QoS (including MPLS cores)... Works great when the switch/router manufacturer implements it properly (this includes MPLS switches)... -Joe KA3NAM On 12/26/2011 10:29 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:
I always strived for good audio on my repeaters. But QOS does not work over the internet, only MPLS circuits. If you are going over the internet then you have to take what you get. (And I work in this field I now work for Windstream, ex-PAETEC in managed services)
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-- -Joe KA3NAM
I will say this once. Nicely. THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ONBOARD AUDIO IS NOW *OVER*. We have good reasons for doing this. Its not changing. Its not open for discussion. Thank you. JIM WB6NIL
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:29:40 -0500 From: wa4zlw@backwoodswireless.net To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] on board audio
On 12/26/2011 11:21 AM, David KE6UPI wrote:
I like great audio quality that's way I stopped using Echolink (with a sound card) and went with Allstar. I have Echolink enabled on my Allstar but dislike must Echolink connection because of the poor audio quality and I will disconnect them quickly. I have also disconnected Allstar (nodes and web transceiver) with poor audio. So I think Allstar should have some kind of audio quality polices and standards.
ulaw at what 64kb/s v GSM 13kb/s over DSL or higher. Most internet is unlimited anymore at high speeds unless your using a cell carrier. Does anyone use QOS on there router?
Anyways Audio Quality is always better.
David I always strived for good audio on my repeaters. But QOS does not work over the internet, only MPLS circuits. If you are going over the internet then you have to take what you get. (And I work in this field I now work for Windstream, ex-PAETEC in managed services)
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