I'm trying to lower the audio level from the link to my RF repeater and I'm not seeing the linkmongain setting making a lick of difference. I have tried -6, -10, -20 and now have... linkmongain=-999 ...in the node section below Audio level settings and above Dial Plan settings but there is no change. I wold expect this value to mute it completely on my transmitter audio. http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/71 Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28- app_rpt-0.327 -04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?) Linux allstar 4.4.44-1-ARCH #1 SMP Mon Jan 23 19:01:18 MST 2017 armv7l GNU/Linux What have I done incorrectly? Thanks Danny K5CG
On 4/17/18 1:33 PM, K5CG wrote:
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28-*app_rpt-0.327*-04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
HamVoIP is not Allstar, and they do not make their source available. This is illegal and and an attack on our community values. It's rather sad, I'm sure Jim would be spinning in his grave over this. The people behind HamVoIP are actively involved in copyright infringement and are stealing from the community. They have made many changes that break things (channel drivers, etc) in non-standard ways. As it's closed source they could be embedding anything (bitcoin miners, bots, etc.) and you'd never be the wiser. Allstar is based on sharing and writing code that benefits all of the community, and when a group violates that it's an affront to the entire user base. Install the Allstar code, either from source or via apt-get and give it a try. If your still seeing issues please report back, the developers are here :) 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net
Recently, I asked a question about dial on a rpi3 . Compton replied, off list. I told him to jump straight my ass ... Again. The first time, I lost write access on the other list. I couldn't even unsubscribe. There's something unstable about that guy. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 12:52 Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
On 4/17/18 1:33 PM, K5CG wrote:
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28-*app_rpt-0.327*-04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
HamVoIP is not Allstar, and they do not make their source available. This is illegal and and an attack on our community values. It's rather sad, I'm sure Jim would be spinning in his grave over this.
The people behind HamVoIP are actively involved in copyright infringement and are stealing from the community. They have made many changes that break things (channel drivers, etc) in non-standard ways. As it's closed source they could be embedding anything (bitcoin miners, bots, etc.) and you'd never be the wiser.
Allstar is based on sharing and writing code that benefits all of the community, and when a group violates that it's an affront to the entire user base.
Install the Allstar code, either from source or via apt-get and give it a try. If your still seeing issues please report back, the developers are here :)
73's -- Bryan Fields
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Yes, We are getting reports of Dougie doing this type of thing more and more. Sorry that the users have to be subjected to such antics. 73, Steve N4IRS On 4/17/2018 2:03 PM, ARS W5OMR wrote:
Recently, I asked a question about dial on a rpi3 . Compton replied, off list. I told him to jump straight my ass ... Again. The first time, I lost write access on the other list. I couldn't even unsubscribe.
There's something unstable about that guy.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 12:52 Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net <mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net>> wrote:
On 4/17/18 1:33 PM, K5CG wrote: > Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28-*app_rpt-0.327*-04/05/2018 (should be > OK, right?)
HamVoIP is not Allstar, and they do not make their source available. This is illegal and and an attack on our community values. It's rather sad, I'm sure Jim would be spinning in his grave over this.
The people behind HamVoIP are actively involved in copyright infringement and are stealing from the community. They have made many changes that break things (channel drivers, etc) in non-standard ways. As it's closed source they could be embedding anything (bitcoin miners, bots, etc.) and you'd never be the wiser.
Allstar is based on sharing and writing code that benefits all of the community, and when a group violates that it's an affront to the entire user base.
Install the Allstar code, either from source or via apt-get and give it a try. If your still seeing issues please report back, the developers are here :)
73's -- Bryan Fields
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I recently had a discussion with David Cameron about a simulcast and voting project. While talking to him, I asked if he had reconsidered his decision to disallow IRLP support in app_rpt. In no uncertain terms has he changed his mind. He doesn't want that code in Asterisk/app_rpt - - period. HamVoip includes code that goes against the creator of IRLP, but it doesn't seem to matter what other people think/want. They are doing their own thing - for better or worse. While the "official" distribution of AllStar/Asterisk/app_rpt has not kept up with the times - times have changed. Kevin W3KKC On 4/17/2018 2:06 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
Yes, We are getting reports of Dougie doing this type of thing more and more. Sorry that the users have to be subjected to such antics.
73, Steve N4IRS
On 4/17/2018 2:03 PM, ARS W5OMR wrote:
Recently, I asked a question about dial on a rpi3 . Compton replied, off list. I told him to jump straight my ass ... Again. The first time, I lost write access on the other list. I couldn't even unsubscribe.
There's something unstable about that guy.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 12:52 Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net <mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net>> wrote:
On 4/17/18 1:33 PM, K5CG wrote: > Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28-*app_rpt-0.327*-04/05/2018 (should be > OK, right?)
HamVoIP is not Allstar, and they do not make their source available. This is illegal and and an attack on our community values. It's rather sad, I'm sure Jim would be spinning in his grave over this.
The people behind HamVoIP are actively involved in copyright infringement and are stealing from the community. They have made many changes that break things (channel drivers, etc) in non-standard ways. As it's closed source they could be embedding anything (bitcoin miners, bots, etc.) and you'd never be the wiser.
Allstar is based on sharing and writing code that benefits all of the community, and when a group violates that it's an affront to the entire user base.
Install the Allstar code, either from source or via apt-get and give it a try. If your still seeing issues please report back, the developers are here :)
73's -- Bryan Fields
Not a battle we should be worried about, I’m thinking. If David for IRLP or Digium (who I believe holds the copyright on Asterisk; open source does not mean it’s public domain, just that you’re obliged to follow a specific set of license requirements in the GPL from the Open Software Foundation) don’t want to enforce their rights (or may not even know that their rights are being infringed), then there is really nothing we can do about it, other than to take the high road and be sure OUR house is in order. IOW, it’s up to the OSF, Dave Cameron, and the legal owner of the Asterisk copyright to enforce, if they even know. IANAL nor to I play one on TV or radio. Just my $.02 and for more info, surf to http://www.lotuseuropa.us/disclaimer.htm -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Apr 17, 2018, at 14:32, Kevin Custer <kuggie@kuggie.com> wrote:
I recently had a discussion with David Cameron about a simulcast and voting project. While talking to him, I asked if he had reconsidered his decision to disallow IRLP support in app_rpt. In no uncertain terms has he changed his mind. He doesn't want that code in Asterisk/app_rpt - - period.
HamVoip includes code that goes against the creator of IRLP, but it doesn't seem to matter what other people think/want. They are doing their own thing - for better or worse.
While the "official" distribution of AllStar/Asterisk/app_rpt has not kept up with the times - times have changed.
Kevin W3KKC
On 4/17/2018 2:06 PM, Steve Zingman wrote: Yes, We are getting reports of Dougie doing this type of thing more and more. Sorry that the users have to be subjected to such antics.
73, Steve N4IRS
On 4/17/2018 2:03 PM, ARS W5OMR wrote: Recently, I asked a question about dial on a rpi3 . Compton replied, off list. I told him to jump straight my ass ... Again. The first time, I lost write access on the other list. I couldn't even unsubscribe.
There's something unstable about that guy.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 12:52 Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote: On 4/17/18 1:33 PM, K5CG wrote:
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28-*app_rpt-0.327*-04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
HamVoIP is not Allstar, and they do not make their source available. This is illegal and and an attack on our community values. It's rather sad, I'm sure Jim would be spinning in his grave over this.
The people behind HamVoIP are actively involved in copyright infringement and are stealing from the community. They have made many changes that break things (channel drivers, etc) in non-standard ways. As it's closed source they could be embedding anything (bitcoin miners, bots, etc.) and you'd never be the wiser.
Allstar is based on sharing and writing code that benefits all of the community, and when a group violates that it's an affront to the entire user base.
Install the Allstar code, either from source or via apt-get and give it a try. If your still seeing issues please report back, the developers are here :)
73's -- Bryan Fields
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On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
Not a battle we should be worried about, I’m thinking.
If David for IRLP or Digium (who I believe holds the copyright on Asterisk; open source does not mean it’s public domain, just that you’re obliged to follow a specific set of license requirements in the GPL from the Open Software Foundation) don’t want to enforce their rights (or may not even know that their rights are being infringed), then there is really nothing we can do about it, other than to take the high road and be sure OUR house is in order.
IOW, it’s up to the OSF, Dave Cameron, and the legal owner of the Asterisk copyright to enforce, if they even know.
IANAL nor to I play one on TV or radio. Just my $.02 and for more info, surf to http://www.lotuseuropa.us/disclaimer.htm -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Apr 17, 2018, at 14:32, Kevin Custer <kuggie@kuggie.com> wrote:
I recently had a discussion with David Cameron about a simulcast and voting project. While talking to him, I asked if he had reconsidered his decision to disallow IRLP support in app_rpt. In no uncertain terms has he changed his mind. He doesn't want that code in Asterisk/app_rpt - - period.
HamVoip includes code that goes against the creator of IRLP, but it doesn't seem to matter what other people think/want. They are doing their own thing - for better or worse.
While the "official" distribution of AllStar/Asterisk/app_rpt has not kept up with the times - times have changed.
Kevin W3KKC
On 4/17/2018 2:06 PM, Steve Zingman wrote: Yes, We are getting reports of Dougie doing this type of thing more and more. Sorry that the users have to be subjected to such antics.
73, Steve N4IRS
On 4/17/2018 2:03 PM, ARS W5OMR wrote: Recently, I asked a question about dial on a rpi3 . Compton replied, off list. I told him to jump straight my ass ... Again. The first time, I lost write access on the other list. I couldn't even unsubscribe.
There's something unstable about that guy.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 12:52 Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote: On 4/17/18 1:33 PM, K5CG wrote:
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28-*app_rpt-0.327*-04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
HamVoIP is not Allstar, and they do not make their source available. This is illegal and and an attack on our community values. It's rather sad, I'm sure Jim would be spinning in his grave over this.
The people behind HamVoIP are actively involved in copyright infringement and are stealing from the community. They have made many changes that break things (channel drivers, etc) in non-standard ways. As it's closed source they could be embedding anything (bitcoin miners, bots, etc.) and you'd never be the wiser.
Allstar is based on sharing and writing code that benefits all of the community, and when a group violates that it's an affront to the entire user base.
Install the Allstar code, either from source or via apt-get and give it a try. If your still seeing issues please report back, the developers are here :)
73's -- Bryan Fields
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I've heard Doug poaches off list, telling posters they should switch to HamVoIP. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:03 AM, ARS W5OMR <ars.w5omr@gmail.com> wrote:
Recently, I asked a question about dial on a rpi3 . Compton replied, off list. I told him to jump straight my ass ... Again. The first time, I lost write access on the other list. I couldn't even unsubscribe.
There's something unstable about that guy.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 12:52 Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
On 4/17/18 1:33 PM, K5CG wrote:
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28-*app_rpt-0.327*-04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
HamVoIP is not Allstar, and they do not make their source available. This is illegal and and an attack on our community values. It's rather sad, I'm sure Jim would be spinning in his grave over this.
The people behind HamVoIP are actively involved in copyright infringement and are stealing from the community. They have made many changes that break things (channel drivers, etc) in non-standard ways. As it's closed source they could be embedding anything (bitcoin miners, bots, etc.) and you'd never be the wiser.
Allstar is based on sharing and writing code that benefits all of the community, and when a group violates that it's an affront to the entire user base.
Install the Allstar code, either from source or via apt-get and give it a try. If your still seeing issues please report back, the developers are here :)
73's -- Bryan Fields
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That was his intent when I asked about dial on a pi. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 14:56 Tim Sawyer <tisawyer@gmail.com> wrote:
I've heard Doug poaches off list, telling posters they should switch to HamVoIP.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:03 AM, ARS W5OMR <ars.w5omr@gmail.com> wrote:
Recently, I asked a question about dial on a rpi3 . Compton replied, off list. I told him to jump straight my ass ... Again. The first time, I lost write access on the other list. I couldn't even unsubscribe.
There's something unstable about that guy.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 12:52 Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:
On 4/17/18 1:33 PM, K5CG wrote:
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28-*app_rpt-0.327*-04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
HamVoIP is not Allstar, and they do not make their source available. This is illegal and and an attack on our community values. It's rather sad, I'm sure Jim would be spinning in his grave over this.
The people behind HamVoIP are actively involved in copyright infringement and are stealing from the community. They have made many changes that break things (channel drivers, etc) in non-standard ways. As it's closed source they could be embedding anything (bitcoin miners, bots, etc.) and you'd never be the wiser.
Allstar is based on sharing and writing code that benefits all of the community, and when a group violates that it's an affront to the entire user base.
Install the Allstar code, either from source or via apt-get and give it a try. If your still seeing issues please report back, the developers are here :)
73's -- Bryan Fields
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Hi Danny, I don't think I've ever tried the linkmongain setting. But, I don't think I've changed any of that code, either. I'll test and if it's broken, fix it, today. 73, David KB4FXC On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, K5CG wrote:
I'm trying to lower the audio level from the link to my RF repeater and I'm not seeing the linkmongain setting making a lick of difference.
I have tried -6, -10, -20 and now have...
linkmongain=-999
...in the node section below Audio level settings and above Dial Plan settings but there is no change. I wold expect this value to mute it completely on my transmitter audio.
http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/71
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28- app_rpt-0.327 -04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
Linux allstar 4.4.44-1-ARCH #1 SMP Mon Jan 23 19:01:18 MST 2017 armv7l GNU/Linux
What have I done incorrectly?
Thanks
Danny K5CG
Hi Danny, I tested the linkmongain setting and it does work as it was designed to. That command is named poorly, calling it linkmonduck would be a better name. linkmongain ONLY works for links in monitor mode, meaning that the connection was made using *2 (or *72 for permanent connections)...It does NOT work when *3 (or *73 for permanent connections) is the connection mode. Also note that linkmongain only changes the level of the monitored links when other normal local or link audio is also present. So, this acts similarly to telemetry ducking, where the telemetry level is changed by the telemduckgain parameter---when local (or other link audio) audio is present, only then does the linkmongain setting have any impact. There is no parameter (that I know of?) to independently adjust the audio level for incoming AllStar links. This is different from echolink (erxgain parameter), IRLP (irxgain parameter) and TLB (The link box) (trxgain parameter), where they can have their network audio levels changed....It is normally considered that AllStar links will all have their levels "normalized," so an independent setting for AllStar link gain levels should be unneeded. Does this make sense? If there is a need, for an AllStar link gain setting, I add this to the feature request list?? 73, David KB4FXC On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, David McGough wrote:
Hi Danny, I don't think I've ever tried the linkmongain setting. But, I don't think I've changed any of that code, either. I'll test and if it's broken, fix it, today. 73, David KB4FXC On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, K5CG wrote:
I'm trying to lower the audio level from the link to my RF repeater and I'm not seeing the linkmongain setting making a lick of difference.
I have tried -6, -10, -20 and now have...
linkmongain=-999
...in the node section below Audio level settings and above Dial Plan settings but there is no change. I wold expect this value to mute it completely on my transmitter audio.
http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/71
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28- app_rpt-0.327 -04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
Linux allstar 4.4.44-1-ARCH #1 SMP Mon Jan 23 19:01:18 MST 2017 armv7l GNU/Linux
What have I done incorrectly?
Thanks
Danny K5CG
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Thanks David, no need to go any further on this. Thanks for checking. Everything is working as it should. Danny K5CG ----- Original Message ----- From: "David McGough" <kb4fxc@inttek.net> To: "k5cg" <k5cg@hamoperator.org> Cc: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:30:31 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Link audio level Hi Danny, I tested the linkmongain setting and it does work as it was designed to. That command is named poorly, calling it linkmonduck would be a better name. linkmongain ONLY works for links in monitor mode, meaning that the connection was made using *2 (or *72 for permanent connections)...It does NOT work when *3 (or *73 for permanent connections) is the connection mode. Also note that linkmongain only changes the level of the monitored links when other normal local or link audio is also present. So, this acts similarly to telemetry ducking, where the telemetry level is changed by the telemduckgain parameter---when local (or other link audio) audio is present, only then does the linkmongain setting have any impact. There is no parameter (that I know of?) to independently adjust the audio level for incoming AllStar links. This is different from echolink (erxgain parameter), IRLP (irxgain parameter) and TLB (The link box) (trxgain parameter), where they can have their network audio levels changed....It is normally considered that AllStar links will all have their levels "normalized," so an independent setting for AllStar link gain levels should be unneeded. Does this make sense? If there is a need, for an AllStar link gain setting, I add this to the feature request list?? 73, David KB4FXC On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, David McGough wrote:
Hi Danny, I don't think I've ever tried the linkmongain setting. But, I don't think I've changed any of that code, either. I'll test and if it's broken, fix it, today. 73, David KB4FXC On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, K5CG wrote:
I'm trying to lower the audio level from the link to my RF repeater and I'm not seeing the linkmongain setting making a lick of difference.
I have tried -6, -10, -20 and now have...
linkmongain=-999
...in the node section below Audio level settings and above Dial Plan settings but there is no change. I wold expect this value to mute it completely on my transmitter audio.
http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/71
Asterisk 1.4.23-pre.hamvoip-V1.5.3-28- app_rpt-0.327 -04/05/2018 (should be OK, right?)
Linux allstar 4.4.44-1-ARCH #1 SMP Mon Jan 23 19:01:18 MST 2017 armv7l GNU/Linux
What have I done incorrectly?
Thanks
Danny K5CG
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29999 is dropping connections. some of you all can connect to a dedicated server with lots of bandwidth 29567
29567 can be issued to others as a hub for the following nets, or any other for that matter. ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 20:05 -0500, Benjamin Naber wrote:
29999 is dropping connections.
some of you all can connect to a dedicated server with lots of bandwidth
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Thanks Ben, So you don't mind, I put it on the list of connectable s. Net/ Roundtable discussion / help session to follow next tues, same time ...mike/kb8jnm On 6/19/2018 10:36 PM, Benjamin Naber wrote:
29567 can be issued to others as a hub for the following nets,
or any other for that matter.
~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 20:05 -0500, Benjamin Naber wrote:
29999 is dropping connections.
some of you all can connect to a dedicated server with lots of bandwidth
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