Alan With the connection to the NXDN radios are you able link to other NXDN radios natively? (ie, through the ethernet jack?) Or is simply just cross-connected to Allstar? If so, you are just creating another connection to an analogue network. What would be interesting is an NXDN Network with a hook to Allstar. There is a group looking at interfacing NXDN to D-STAR. Eric Meth - ve3ei On 12/08/2012 8:32 PM, Alan Adamson wrote:

I've already done the *cheap* analog to NXDN :)... it's easy... I just connect my RTCM to the transcoded audio at the repeater. Poof done... analog to NXDN the easy way :)

It actually sounds pretty good too...

Alan

-----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey S. Carrier [mailto:jeff.carrier@rmsmsecurity.com] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:15 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org; adamson_alan@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] d-star?

How about a similar connection to a mototrbo system. That would be cool!

K0jsc

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-----Original Message----- From: Alan Adamson [adamson_alan@hotmail.com] Received: Sunday, 12 Aug 2012, 4:41pm To: 'Allstar User' [app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org] Subject: [App_rpt-users] d-star?

I know this is probably old hat to most, but I think I have the world's most connectable allstar server :)..

I've now got a B and C module of D-star (via freestar*) that I can connect in, my own experimental XRF reflector, I can cross link analog to digital, etc. What's most amazing is HOW GOOD IT SOUNDS, when the D-Star audio comes into the allstar server.

I just decided that I didn't want to do the rptdir thing, so I'm using chan_dstar and the dextra_client.. And it really sounds good. I'm scratching my head as to why this was so frowned on in the beginning of time (not from the allstar guys, but the d-star guys).

Anyway, I think if I had everything connected up, it's like 2 full duplex repeaters, a full duplex IRLP connection, and a d-star gateway, but 2 simplex bases, one for d-star one for allstar.. Good think I had a whole bunch of 25W dummy loads :).

since I got everything working, I just figured I'd share. while it wasn't brain dead easy, it wasn't too difficult either.

Alan

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FROWN on it? I kid you not........ I run 2 of the Hawaii MotoTRBO and 1 of the Las Vegas MotoTRBO..... The first time I hear a interconnect from D-Star they all go dark..... Kirk On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx@k1lnx.net> wrote:

There's a 26 pin jack on the back of the MOTOTRBO radios, so it could easily be hooked to a URI (well at least on the XPR 5550, which is what I am running, not sure about other models. I think the 4550 has it as well). And I am also unsure if the audio is present in digital mode, it's not on the repeaters, but unsure about the mobiles. It should be though, there are several software packages out there that actually depend on a radio being connected.

Native bridging? I don't think that will be easy. There's a product out there that will allow you to hook a radio to it and then bridge it to the TRBO network, but it's not cheap (about $2,600). Motorola is also very tight lipped about their protocol. I am working on getting accepted into the developer's program, but if I do get in I have to sign an NDA and I don't think I can make anything I potentially create open sourced because of it. I think there are people that have done what I describe above though, seems like I've heard some chatter about it. Believe me.... I would LOVE to see a "chan_trbo" or better yet a "chan_dmr" and be able to link both Hytera and MOTOTRBO together in a app_rpt box, but the nature of the closed IPSC protocols for both may prevent that from happening. It's not impossible, the protocol could easily be studied with a packet dump, but would probably take some serious code to make it all work.

The bigger problem with all this is that the MOTOTRBO network operators (DMR-MARC, DCI, etc) may frown on such an installation. This is the reason I have not pursued this myself yet, there is a strong (and rightfully so) belief to keep the network all MOTOTRBO.

Wishful thinking anyhow....

Stephen K1LNX

-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey S. Carrier Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:15 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org; adamson_alan@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] d-star?

How about a similar connection to a mototrbo system. That would be cool!

K0jsc

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-----Original Message----- From: Alan Adamson [adamson_alan@hotmail.com] Received: Sunday, 12 Aug 2012, 4:41pm To: 'Allstar User' [app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org] Subject: [App_rpt-users] d-star?

I know this is probably old hat to most, but I think I have the world's most connectable allstar server :)..

I've now got a B and C module of D-star (via freestar*) that I can connect in, my own experimental XRF reflector, I can cross link analog to digital, etc. What's most amazing is HOW GOOD IT SOUNDS, when the D-Star audio comes into the allstar server.

I just decided that I didn't want to do the rptdir thing, so I'm using chan_dstar and the dextra_client.. And it really sounds good. I'm scratching my head as to why this was so frowned on in the beginning of time (not from the allstar guys, but the d-star guys).

Anyway, I think if I had everything connected up, it's like 2 full duplex repeaters, a full duplex IRLP connection, and a d-star gateway, but 2 simplex bases, one for d-star one for allstar.. Good think I had a whole bunch of 25W dummy loads :).

since I got everything working, I just figured I'd share. while it wasn't brain dead easy, it wasn't too difficult either.

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I guess my reply to this never made it. I'm not suggesting, recommending or endorsing a TRBO to DSTAR Bridge, patch or intertie. Merely mentioning that it would be nice to use the local slot on my 8400 linked into allstar NOT $star. As others paved the way before I did, I'm finding that using allstar to link analog machines via private WLAN seems to be a great way to build a system. Having a TRBO node would be nice. Allstar has been so nice I'm considering dumping echolink connects all together since 98% of them sound horribly OVERDRIVEN and just crappy. And yes the folks at dmr-marc, dci and trbo6 don't want analog on their systems. My machine is linked to others in the state for emcom so being able to tie analog to digital is a good option to have. Connecting an XPR4550 to a URI on a digital channel sounds NASTY. Tried it, the only way to go would be via IPSC which probably isn't going to happen. 73 de K0JSC ________________________________ From: Kirk Just Kirk [mailto:wb6egr@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 6:43 PM To: Stephen - K1LNX Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] d-star? FROWN on it? I kid you not........ I run 2 of the Hawaii MotoTRBO and 1 of the Las Vegas MotoTRBO..... The first time I hear a interconnect from D-Star they all go dark..... Kirk On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx@k1lnx.net> wrote: There's a 26 pin jack on the back of the MOTOTRBO radios, so it could easily be hooked to a URI (well at least on the XPR 5550, which is what I am running, not sure about other models. I think the 4550 has it as well). And I am also unsure if the audio is present in digital mode, it's not on the repeaters, but unsure about the mobiles. It should be though, there are several software packages out there that actually depend on a radio being connected. Native bridging? I don't think that will be easy. There's a product out there that will allow you to hook a radio to it and then bridge it to the TRBO network, but it's not cheap (about $2,600). Motorola is also very tight lipped about their protocol. I am working on getting accepted into the developer's program, but if I do get in I have to sign an NDA and I don't think I can make anything I potentially create open sourced because of it. I think there are people that have done what I describe above though, seems like I've heard some chatter about it. Believe me.... I would LOVE to see a "chan_trbo" or better yet a "chan_dmr" and be able to link both Hytera and MOTOTRBO together in a app_rpt box, but the nature of the closed IPSC protocols for both may prevent that from happening. It's not impossible, the protocol could easily be studied with a packet dump, but would probably take some serious code to make it all work. The bigger problem with all this is that the MOTOTRBO network operators (DMR-MARC, DCI, etc) may frown on such an installation. This is the reason I have not pursued this myself yet, there is a strong (and rightfully so) belief to keep the network all MOTOTRBO. Wishful thinking anyhow.... Stephen K1LNX -----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey S. Carrier Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:15 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org; adamson_alan@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] d-star? How about a similar connection to a mototrbo system. That would be cool! K0jsc Jeffrey S. Carrier Fire Inspector, Plant Protection (719) 561-7199 <tel:%28719%29%20561-7199> direct (719) 561-6567 <tel:%28719%29%20561-6567> fax 1612 E. Abriendo Ave. Pueblo, Colorado 81004 jeffrey.carrier@evrazincna.com Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown -----Original Message----- From: Alan Adamson [adamson_alan@hotmail.com] Received: Sunday, 12 Aug 2012, 4:41pm To: 'Allstar User' [app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org] Subject: [App_rpt-users] d-star? I know this is probably old hat to most, but I think I have the world's most connectable allstar server :).. I've now got a B and C module of D-star (via freestar*) that I can connect in, my own experimental XRF reflector, I can cross link analog to digital, etc. What's most amazing is HOW GOOD IT SOUNDS, when the D-Star audio comes into the allstar server. I just decided that I didn't want to do the rptdir thing, so I'm using chan_dstar and the dextra_client.. And it really sounds good. I'm scratching my head as to why this was so frowned on in the beginning of time (not from the allstar guys, but the d-star guys). Anyway, I think if I had everything connected up, it's like 2 full duplex repeaters, a full duplex IRLP connection, and a d-star gateway, but 2 simplex bases, one for d-star one for allstar.. Good think I had a whole bunch of 25W dummy loads :). since I got everything working, I just figured I'd share. while it wasn't brain dead easy, it wasn't too difficult either. Alan _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users