Pingponging of a simplex node
I have a very simple simplex node...speaker out, mic in that's configured:
hdwtype=0 rxboost=1 txboost=0 rxctcssrelax=1 carrierfrom=vox ctcssfrom=no rxdemod=speaker txprelim=no txlimonly=no txtoctype=no txmixa=voice txmixb=no invertptt=0 duplex=0 rxondelay=25 rxnoisefiltype=0 eeprom=1
and the rpt.conf is configured with duplex=0....because, when I change it to a duplex=1, it sits there and bounces back and forth, keying up, dropping, then courtesy tones key it up, which causes it to key up again...ad nauseam. The stanza for the node in rpt.conf is:
rxchannel=Radio/usbxxxxx duplex=0 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 scheduler=schedulexxxxx morse=morsexxxx macro=macroxxxx functions=functionsxxxx phone_functions=functionsxxxx link_functions=functionsxxxx telemetry=telemetry wait_times=wait-times context = radio callerid = "WB0YLE Simplex" <xxxx> idrecording=/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/wb0ylesimplex accountcode=RADIO hangtime=1000 althangtime=1000 totime=170000 idtime=540000 politeid=3000 idtalkover=|iWB0YLE unlinkedct=ct2 remotect=ct3 linkunkeyct=ct8 unlinkedct=ct2 nolocallinkct=0 nounkeyct=0 beaconing=0
it worked for a while with duplex=1...I rang out the cables, no shorts, etc. Hmmm...it works, after a fashion, with the duplex set to 0 in rpt.conf, but, no courtesy tones (I realize that you really don't need them for simplex, but, it's a nice to have...) Anyway, suggestions? Did I miss something (that's common...)? Thx all 73 Bryan WB0YLE Allstar 27294 27295 27710 Echolink WB0YLE-R Morrisville PA
Friends don't let friends use VOX. Just DONT. Its just bad, wrong, and unacceptable. I left it in the distro as a courtesy but I really never intended anyone to attempt to use it. Please, just dont. JIM WB6NIL
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:27:27 -0400 From: bdboyle@bdboyle.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Pingponging of a simplex node
I have a very simple simplex node...speaker out, mic in that's configured:
hdwtype=0 rxboost=1 txboost=0 rxctcssrelax=1 carrierfrom=vox ctcssfrom=no rxdemod=speaker txprelim=no txlimonly=no txtoctype=no txmixa=voice txmixb=no invertptt=0 duplex=0 rxondelay=25 rxnoisefiltype=0 eeprom=1
and the rpt.conf is configured with duplex=0....because, when I change it to a duplex=1, it sits there and bounces back and forth, keying up, dropping, then courtesy tones key it up, which causes it to key up again...ad nauseam.
The stanza for the node in rpt.conf is:
rxchannel=Radio/usbxxxxx duplex=0 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 scheduler=schedulexxxxx morse=morsexxxx macro=macroxxxx functions=functionsxxxx phone_functions=functionsxxxx link_functions=functionsxxxx telemetry=telemetry wait_times=wait-times context = radio callerid = "WB0YLE Simplex" <xxxx> idrecording=/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/wb0ylesimplex accountcode=RADIO hangtime=1000 althangtime=1000 totime=170000 idtime=540000 politeid=3000 idtalkover=|iWB0YLE unlinkedct=ct2 remotect=ct3 linkunkeyct=ct8 unlinkedct=ct2 nolocallinkct=0 nounkeyct=0 beaconing=0
it worked for a while with duplex=1...I rang out the cables, no shorts, etc.
Hmmm...it works, after a fashion, with the duplex set to 0 in rpt.conf, but, no courtesy tones (I realize that you really don't need them for simplex, but, it's a nice to have...)
Anyway, suggestions? Did I miss something (that's common...)?
Thx all
73 Bryan WB0YLE Allstar 27294 27295 27710 Echolink WB0YLE-R Morrisville PA
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On 6/1/2011 7:39 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
Friends don't let friends use VOX. Just DONT. Its just bad, wrong, and unacceptable. I left it in the distro as a courtesy but I really never intended anyone to attempt to use it. Please, just dont.
unfortunately...no way to get a cor sig out of an HT so I can use usb decoding from the speaker/headphone jack. :( Especially one of those cheap chinese HTs. sigh. Cheap/easy/works...pick one...:) Guess I'll have to find an old micor high vhf mobile...more than what I really want to use...or figure out how to get the sigs out of the TR33 I have hanging around without totally buggering it up...or...??? No problem, if you leave it in...someone will try to use it...;) BB chagrined...
On 6/1/2011 8:12 PM, Ken wrote:
unfortunately...no way to get a cor sig out of an HT so I can use usb decoding from the speaker/headphone jack. :( Especially one of those cheap Chinese HTs.
looking at it, the Wouxun has a receive LED that turns on when receiving...hmmmm....see what you made me do...pull out the 260 and measure voltage and the like...
My cheap/tiny Alinco has a COR .... a little-known feature. Worked great for echolink pre-Asterisk.
Did you see the new Alinco 220/900 HT they announced at Dayton? Talk about hitting the two least-used bands (in a lot of areas...)... BB
If you REALLY HAVE to use an HT, use a Motorola, HT-600 or newer. They have a bridged audio out (for the speaker) coming out of the speaker/mic connector/cable and it only has DC bias on it when the radio has something to listen to. Therefore the presence of DC on the speaker lead can be used as a COR/CTCSS indication. JIM
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:54:04 -0400 From: bdboyle@bdboyle.com To: telesistant@hotmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Pingponging of a simplex node
On 6/1/2011 7:39 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
Friends don't let friends use VOX. Just DONT. Its just bad, wrong, and unacceptable. I left it in the distro as a courtesy but I really never intended anyone to attempt to use it. Please, just dont.
unfortunately...no way to get a cor sig out of an HT so I can use usb decoding from the speaker/headphone jack. :( Especially one of those cheap chinese HTs.
sigh. Cheap/easy/works...pick one...:)
Guess I'll have to find an old micor high vhf mobile...more than what I really want to use...or figure out how to get the sigs out of the TR33 I have hanging around without totally buggering it up...or...???
No problem, if you leave it in...someone will try to use it...;)
BB chagrined...
On 6/1/2011 8:15 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
If you REALLY HAVE to use an HT, use a Motorola, HT-600 or newer. They have a bridged audio out (for the speaker) coming out of the speaker/mic connector/cable and it only has DC bias on it when the radio has something to listen to. Therefore the presence of DC on the speaker lead can be used as a COR/CTCSS indication.
Another great idea. That's what I love about this list...thanks, guys...straightened out my thinking and some great ideas... BB Not Chagrined now...;)
Another trick I've done in the past is to glue a phototransistor to the carrier detect LED on an HT. You don't have to crack open the HT and it works pretty well. (A downside is that on some HTs the carrier detect LED will turn on even if the correct CTCSS tone isn't present. alas.) Phil On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
On 6/1/2011 8:15 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
If you REALLY HAVE to use an HT, use a Motorola, HT-600 or newer. They have a bridged audio out (for the speaker) coming out of the speaker/mic connector/cable and it only has DC bias on it when the radio has something to listen to. Therefore the presence of DC on the speaker lead can be used as a COR/CTCSS indication. [....]
Thanks for the great suggestion, Mr. Goldberg :-) JIM WB6NIL
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:32:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Pingponging of a simplex node From: phil.n6tct@gmail.com To: bdboyle@bdboyle.com CC: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Another trick I've done in the past is to glue a phototransistor to the carrier detect LED on an HT. You don't have to crack open the HT and it works pretty well. (A downside is that on some HTs the carrier detect LED will turn on even if the correct CTCSS tone isn't present. alas.)
Phil
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Bryan D. Boyle <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
On 6/1/2011 8:15 PM, Jim Duuuude wrote:
If you REALLY HAVE to use an HT, use a Motorola, HT-600 or newer. They have a bridged audio out (for the speaker) coming out of the speaker/mic connector/cable and it only has DC bias on it when the radio has something to listen to. Therefore the presence of DC on the speaker lead can be used as a COR/CTCSS indication. [....]
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