[App_rpt-users] How to turn on AllStar ID Requirements

Steve Agee n5zua at earthlink.net
Fri Mar 29 15:36:39 UTC 2013


Actually, he CAN operate Part 15, but it is not as simple as saying, "reduce your power to X milliwatts". Part 15.109B is a table for intentional radiators which shows that in the range of 216-960 MHz he must not exceed 210 microvolts per meter, measured at a distance of 10 meters. To comply with this, he must factor in not only the power of the transmitter, but loss of transmission line as well as gain of antenna for over all ERP viewed as a complete system. The table in Part 15.205 restricts operation to only spurious emissions in certain frequency ranges, but 2 meters and 70 centimeters are not listed and therefore not restricted from Part 15. Quoting directly from the ARRL web site ....

In the amateur 2-meter band, for example, these regulations would permit an intentional radiator to run a transmitter power of about 4 nanowatts into a half-wave dipole, resulting in a field strength of 150 microvolts/meter at a point 3 meters away from the dipole center. To relate this to receiver S unit readings (50 uV at 50 ohms = S9 and an S unit = 6 dB), a 144-MHz field of 150 microvolts/meter would result in an S9 meter reading if 2.2 dBi gain antennas were used on each end (half-wave dipoles in free space). Of course, this is only 3 meters from the source. If the source were located 30 meters away, the signal would be about an S6. On 3.5 MHz, the permitted field strength is 30 microvolts/meter at 30 meters distance. A field of this strength would give an S9+15 dB reading to a half-wave dipole on 80 meters.
N5ZUA

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ralph 
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] How to turn on AllStar ID Requirements

Whoa Nellie!
 
On Amateur frequencies, you can't throw the Part 97 rules out the window and just declare you are now under part 15, whether or not you lower power and use less antenna.
If people did that we would have repeaters full of bootleggers saying they were "part 15" and didn't need no steenkin license.  
 
And his personal base station has to abide some other rules as well, such as those concerning auxiliary operation, and repeater subbands, etc.
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From: app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bill South
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:21 AM
To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] How to turn on AllStar ID Requirements
 
Station identification is only required at the end of each communication, and at least every 10 minutes during a communication.  Beaconing (IDing at intervals) is not required, but probably not a bad idea.  If it is for personal use only, you might want to consider cutting the power and antenna to meet part 15 rather than part 97 and you won't have to ID at all?
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--- On Sat, 3/23/13, Jim W7RY <w7ry at centurytel.net> wrote:

From: Jim W7RY <w7ry at centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] How to turn on AllStar ID Requirements
To: "George Zolla" <gazolla at san.rr.com>, app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Cc: "Ralph Howey" <ralph at ralphhowey.com>, "Chris Drummond" <kc5izr at gmail.com>, "Wally Baker" <wallyb1511 at msn.com>
Date: Saturday, March 23, 2013, 3:26 AM
You MOST CERTAINLY DO have to send an ID!  It's this kind of attitude that generates unknown interference on frequencies improperly used!

73
Jim W7RY

I am new to AllStar but I have great little home AllStar node with a simplex base station radio set at 5 Watts. No one else has ever connected and i ti meant just for my use. As such I do not send out a station ID at regular intervals.
George,
K6GAZ
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