[App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID

Doug Crompton doug at crompton.com
Mon May 5 16:17:09 UTC 2014


I guess this is getting way off topic and it also seems there are some strong opinions on dns. First of all Allstar rarely uses dns. The node connections are by IP address. If allstarlink.org, as defined in iax.conf is a problem put in the IP address. I doubt it would change.

99% of Internet users use dhcp and the dns is assigned by the provider. In the case of Comcast or Verizon it goes to their dns and you router defers it there when you point it to the router address. I have used a lot of routers over the years and I never had a problem. There is really no reason to muck with the dns. In most all cases if the dns is not working then your connection is not working either. There are a lot of people out there that would highly benefit by upgrading their Internet routers but thats another story.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio


From: petem001 at hotmail.com
To: asylthe at kc9ona.com; doug at crompton.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:03:39 -0400





I always use the DNS provided to my router by my ISP first (could be 2 or 
3) THEN I use the google DNS And at the end I use 2 of intenic. (Iknow it is not 
good practice for use to connect to Internic DNS server. but it is in case all 
the other fail.. Wich is highly improbable
 
that way I know that no mather what I will recive an answer to any dns 
query , it could take time, but I will recieve it..
 
Here is a good read on how DNS server works..
 
http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html
 
 
 


 

From: Andrew Sylthe 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:41 AM
To: Doug 
Crompton 
Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of 
ACID
 

I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address 
of your router.  Not all routers act as a DNS caching server. 
 
Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use:  8.8.8.8 & 
8.8.4.4 (https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/)
 
My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your 
/etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching 
server.
 



On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:


  
  The usual practice is to set your nameserver, 
  /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as 
  your gateway address.

73 
  Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio



  
  
  From: tim.sawyer at mac.com
Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 
  -0700
To: kk6ecm at gmail.com
CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org 
  
  
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of 
  ACID

Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t 
  be able to ping google.com, for 
  example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 
  for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. 

  
  --
Tim
:wq
   
  
  On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm at gmail.com> wrote:

  
    
    
    Can the DNS make it 
    appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not 
    connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable 
    were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to 
    try.
    
Thanks 
    all,
    Bob
    kk6ecm
     
    
    
    
    
    From: Tim Sawyer 
    [mailto:tim.sawyer at mac.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 
    2014 8:25 PM
To: Willem 
    Schreuder
Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: 
    [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
     
    I also use ‘setup’ to 
    set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go 
    edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you 
    prefer:
    
     
    
    nameserver 
    8.8.8.8
    
    nameserver 
    8.8.4.4
    
    
    --
Tim
:wq
     
    
    
    On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 
    PM, Willem Schreuder <willem at prinmath.com> 
    wrote:
    


    On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob 
    wrote:



    After the ACID load is 
    complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the
command prompt, and 
    configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN.
When I do this on a 
    WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to
the public 
    (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID,
eth0 
    can't find the connection.
    
Bob, what you are 
    doing seems correct.  I tend to manually edit files, but there is 
    nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'.  Bottom line, there is nothing in 
    ACID that prevents this from working.  I think you probably just have 
    some field wrong somewhere.

I would approach it bottom up - try 
    pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, 
    then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up.  I bet 
    you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the 
    problem.

73 
    Willem

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