[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2

Wed Sep 3 22:19:18 UTC 2014

What's next...SVXLINK?

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> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 13:07:06 -0400
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> 1. Re: Fwd: EchoLink Policy Reminder (Doug Crompton)
> 2. Re: EchoLink Policy Reminder (Tim Sawyer)
> 3. Re: EchoLink Policy Reminder (Bryan Fields)
> 4. Re: EchoLink Policy Reminder (Kirk Just Kirk)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:20:54 -0400
> From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
> To: "app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: EchoLink Policy Reminder
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> Personally I would ignore it. Its their loss. I doubt there would be any actual blocking unless there was a flagrant violation taking place. I am certainly not going to worry about it. I have an echolink input on my Allstar hub mainly for convenience as it is mostly the Allstar users away from home using their smart phones that come in on it.
> 
> Has anyone on Allstar every had a problem with unlicensed infiltration? Actually I would think echolink is easier to infiltrate than IRLP and Allstar just because there are so many gateway software packages into it. Echolink also has the most non-radio communications of any of the ham voip systems. I would say a good percentage of the communications on echolink are computer to computer. Technically you would not even need a license for that. 
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
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> 
> From: bdboyle at bdboyle.com
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 11:28:00 -0400
> To: fred at moses.bz
> CC: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: EchoLink Policy Reminder
> 
> agreed. it's inferior technology anyway.
> 
> --BryanSent from my iPhone 5...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:57, Fredric Moses <fred at moses.bz> wrote:
> 
> Yea I got it on a few of my email address?s that are registered to call signs? Was a broadcast mail? Guess if they block me it?s one less headache to deal with...
> --
> Fredric Moses - W8FSM - WQOG498
> fred at moses.bz
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> On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if anyone else got this Email?
> 
> I have my Echlin attached to an Allstar node number that only is Echlin. The RF link, which also allows dial in via All Star web transceiver or phone, stays connected to the Echlin All Star node number most of the time, but I can drop that at will. Moreover, I think I?ve turned off any access to the web transceiver or phone gateway to the Echlin node number. Is there anything else I need to do to be in compliance?
> 
> As a side note, all of these regulations against interconnecting systems are getting kind of ridiculous. 
> 
> ? 
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194 
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
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> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 09:34:39 -0700
> From: Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer at mac.com>
> To: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
> Cc: app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] EchoLink Policy Reminder
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> Did not get that email. 
> 
> We use Echolink for away members to check into our RACES net. It?s a pain in the butt, the huge delays causes doubling with RF stations and cell phone Echolink clients sound like poop. 
> 
> This new (to me) Echolink policy gives me the perfect excuse to turn it off. 
> 
> --
> Tim
> :wq
> 
> On Sep 3, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if anyone else got this Email?
> > 
> > I have my Echlin attached to an Allstar node number that only is Echlin. The RF link, which also allows dial in via All Star web transceiver or phone, stays connected to the Echlin All Star node number most of the time, but I can drop that at will. Moreover, I think I?ve turned off any access to the web transceiver or phone gateway to the Echlin node number. Is there anything else I need to do to be in compliance?
> > 
> > As a side note, all of these regulations against interconnecting systems are getting kind of ridiculous. 
> > 
> > ? 
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> > Phone: 814-860-3194 
> > Mobile: 814-431-0962
> > Email: buddy at brannan.name
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >> 
> >> From: "EchoLink Support" <support at echolink.org>
> >> Subject: EchoLink Policy Reminder
> >> To: "EchoLink Node Operators" <>
> >> 
> >> We wanted to remind you of an important item in EchoLink's access policies (which can be found online at http://www.echolink.org/access_policies.htm).
> >> 
> >> In general, EchoLink does not permit cross-linking.
> >> 
> >> More specifically, EchoLink does not permit cross-linking with other VoIP systems that can be accessed off-the-air (for example, directly from a PC or Web browser). This is because other systems may have a validation procedure that is far less comprehensive than EchoLink's, and we want to continue to ensure that EchoLink is solely for use by licensed Amateur Radio operators around the world.
> >> 
> >> Therefore, while excellent systems such as Zello, AllStar, eQSO, WIRES-II, etc. all serve an important purpose within the Amateur Radio community, our policy is that they cannot be directly connected to a registered EchoLink node.
> >> 
> >> In other words, your node must function only as a direct RF gateway, and not as a cross-link to another system. If your node is reachable through another path, that path must be disabled when an EchoLink connection is in progress. For example, an EchoIRLP node is permitted, since it functions only as an RF gateway when an EchoLink connection is made.
> >> 
> >> If you are running Asterisk with app_rpt and an EchoLink channel, be sure it is configured not to allow other VoIP connections when an EchoLink station is connected. If this isn't practical, please disable the EchoLink channel.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for ensuring that your node adheres to this policy. In some cases we do restrict logins to be sure the policy is being followed.
> >> 
> >> 73
> >> EchoLink Support
> >> 
> >> (Note: This mailbox is not able to handle replies. For help and information, please see www.echolink.org/support.htm)
> > 
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> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:55:59 -0400
> From: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
> To: APP RPT <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] EchoLink Policy Reminder
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> On 9/3/14, 12:34 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> > This new (to me) Echolink policy gives me the perfect excuse to turn it off. 
> Agreed. 
> 
> Could be worse, cough IRLP, cough.....
> 
> -- 
> Bryan Fields
> 
> 727-409-1194 - Voice
> 727-214-2508 - Fax
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 10:07:03 -0700
> From: Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr at gmail.com>
> To: Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net>
> Cc: APP RPT <app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] EchoLink Policy Reminder
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> :) it's OK...IRLP is dying out slowly, Dave's cash register is not ringing
> much these days....
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 9/3/14, 12:34 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> > > This new (to me) Echolink policy gives me the perfect excuse to turn it
> > off.
> > Agreed.
> >
> > Could be worse, cough IRLP, cough.....
> >
> > --
> > Bryan Fields
> >
> > 727-409-1194 - Voice
> > 727-214-2508 - Fax
> > http://bryanfields.net
> >
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