[App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status

Steve Zingman szingman at msgstor.com
Fri Feb 6 15:43:20 UTC 2015 

There seems to be a case of false equivalency developing here.
A large number of us do not want or need a image with a few scripts to 
hold our hand
to use AllStar. We want the source code, we want the configuration files 
and that's it.

If all AllStar Asterisk was is a image I download and install, I would 
not be using it.
And for that matter, what is the SVN but a roll out of some files and 
have a nice day.

It seems that if you are not interested in running the images provided 
you are somehow disrespecting
the people that create and support them. At least for me, nothing could 
be further from the truth.
I have not put down Acid, Limey, Pickle or BBB. They all have their 
place. Just not what I want or need to do.
I roll my own, that's why I got involved with helping Jim. I contribute 
support, patches and money to this project.

On the other hand, People that prefer a particular image seem to think 
if you don't want to run the same image you do
you are doing something wrong. It's a little more then just rolling out 
a few files. It about setting up a environment to compile and install 
the version of Asterisk and app_rpt we want to run.

I don't care if someone has done extensive testing of the RPI and deemed 
it inferior. Someone might consider the fact that there are a lot of 
people that want to try it and maybe after they cut their teeth on a RPI 
they move on to something better. And horror of horrors, it's not 
someones image. The same concepts used in the collection of files I made 
available will help someone install AllStar Asterisk on just about any 
Debian platform.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 2/6/2015 10:04 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:04:25 -0800
> From: Bill South <wbs099 at yahoo.com>
> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
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> It's one thing to do a proof-of-concept and roll out some files and then say "have a nice day but no support is provided".  All too often I see that in the technology and experimentation world, which may be fine for some, but less than ideal for other, less technical folks.  Doug has gone way beyond that point by not only doing the proof-of-concept but also providing a number of scripts to make the install smooth on the BBB (my BBB install was SO much easier than my first ACID install).  Beyond that Doug has set up a very detailed web site to answer just about any question one might have about setting up Allstar on a BBB.  But above even that effort Doug has explained many of the various configuration facets of Allstar that previously had been something of a mystery.  He not only explained some things in his BBB web page that were simply not all the clear before related to general Allstar setup, but when asked (and I for one did ask several questions of
>   him) he responded to those questions with clear, concise responses.  Aside from the BBB-specific documentation itself, his web site is an excellent learning experience related to Allstar configuration overall.
>
> Experimentation is certainly a cornerstone of ham radio and all those who have put forth these various solutions on different platforms are to be commended for the efforts, as some of us don't have the expertise or time to do that ourselves but still wish to be involved in this new technology.  It just seems to me that Doug went the extra mile to put together the BBB setup (after more than a little testing on the RPI platform first) then provide significant and detailed documentation to help all of us.  Thanks Doug for your extra efforts in this regard.
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> On Thu, 2/5/15, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
>
>   Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
>   To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>   Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 8:39 AM
>   
>   I'm not
>   sure why some has to get ridiculous with the German goose
>   step references.
>   I personally appreciate all of the work Doug
>   and I'm sure others have put into the BBB. It's
>   cheap and you can have a basic node and even a few more
>   advanced features on the air in less than an hour for cheap
>   money.
>   My BBB has been rock solid and Doug and others
>   on this list have provided support that has gone above and
>   beyond anything I expected!
>   With that said if someone wants to experiment
>   that's great and I like to do the same things. I've
>   been on this list for a while and I kept hearing about the
>   BBB and never considered it until recently. I can tell a lot
>   of work went into that.? There are some advanced features
>   that have been scripted so all you have to do is follow the
>   prompts. An example would be using a powered USB hub and
>   making a image onto another USB flash drive while your
>   system is live.? This is great since my system is at a
>   remote site. So I can make a complete image remotely so if I
>   loose a micro sd card. I can insert a new one and restore my
>   card again.
>   It would be great to see advances using the RPi
>   since that is what ham radio is about.
>   Bob / N1XBM
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