[App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status

Fri Feb 6 16:04:29 UTC 2015

Just to stick my 2 cents in.  This hobby is for all types.  Appliance
operators and experimenters.  Both have their places.  I prefer to
experiment and learn.  I can best accomplish that by doing it myself.
Others have different priorities and I respect that, but do not choose to
follow that path.
I have taken my knowledge and used it recently to port and set up a new
node with the odroid c1 (BTW it kicks the BBBs butt!).  I did not have to
wait for someone else to make an image.  I struggled with things and I am
now smarter than I was yesterday.  Yea, good for me.  It is my choice to
spend my time this way, you can spend your as you see fit.
Today I get my RPI P2.  Want to guess what this weekends project may be?

Always having fun
Mike N4IRR

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman at msgstor.com> wrote:

> There seems to be a case of false equivalency developing here.
> A large number of us do not want or need a image with a few scripts to
> hold our hand
> to use AllStar. We want the source code, we want the configuration files
> and that's it.
>
> If all AllStar Asterisk was is a image I download and install, I would not
> be using it.
> And for that matter, what is the SVN but a roll out of some files and have
> a nice day.
>
> It seems that if you are not interested in running the images provided you
> are somehow disrespecting
> the people that create and support them. At least for me, nothing could be
> further from the truth.
> I have not put down Acid, Limey, Pickle or BBB. They all have their place.
> Just not what I want or need to do.
> I roll my own, that's why I got involved with helping Jim. I contribute
> support, patches and money to this project.
>
> On the other hand, People that prefer a particular image seem to think if
> you don't want to run the same image you do
> you are doing something wrong. It's a little more then just rolling out a
> few files. It about setting up a environment to compile and install the
> version of Asterisk and app_rpt we want to run.
>
> I don't care if someone has done extensive testing of the RPI and deemed
> it inferior. Someone might consider the fact that there are a lot of people
> that want to try it and maybe after they cut their teeth on a RPI they move
> on to something better. And horror of horrors, it's not someones image. The
> same concepts used in the collection of files I made available will help
> someone install AllStar Asterisk on just about any Debian platform.
>
> 73, Steve N4IRS
>
> On 2/6/2015 10:04 AM, app_rpt-users-request at ohnosec.org wrote:
>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:04:25 -0800
>> From: Bill South <wbs099 at yahoo.com>
>> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org>
>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
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>> It's one thing to do a proof-of-concept and roll out some files and then
>> say "have a nice day but no support is provided".  All too often I see that
>> in the technology and experimentation world, which may be fine for some,
>> but less than ideal for other, less technical folks.  Doug has gone way
>> beyond that point by not only doing the proof-of-concept but also providing
>> a number of scripts to make the install smooth on the BBB (my BBB install
>> was SO much easier than my first ACID install).  Beyond that Doug has set
>> up a very detailed web site to answer just about any question one might
>> have about setting up Allstar on a BBB.  But above even that effort Doug
>> has explained many of the various configuration facets of Allstar that
>> previously had been something of a mystery.  He not only explained some
>> things in his BBB web page that were simply not all the clear before
>> related to general Allstar setup, but when asked (and I for one did ask
>> several questions of
>>   him) he responded to those questions with clear, concise responses.
>> Aside from the BBB-specific documentation itself, his web site is an
>> excellent learning experience related to Allstar configuration overall.
>>
>> Experimentation is certainly a cornerstone of ham radio and all those who
>> have put forth these various solutions on different platforms are to be
>> commended for the efforts, as some of us don't have the expertise or time
>> to do that ourselves but still wish to be involved in this new technology.
>> It just seems to me that Doug went the extra mile to put together the BBB
>> setup (after more than a little testing on the RPI platform first) then
>> provide significant and detailed documentation to help all of us.  Thanks
>> Doug for your extra efforts in this regard.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Thu, 2/5/15, Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>>   Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Raspberry pi status
>>   To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>   Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 8:39 AM
>>     I'm not
>>   sure why some has to get ridiculous with the German goose
>>   step references.
>>   I personally appreciate all of the work Doug
>>   and I'm sure others have put into the BBB. It's
>>   cheap and you can have a basic node and even a few more
>>   advanced features on the air in less than an hour for cheap
>>   money.
>>   My BBB has been rock solid and Doug and others
>>   on this list have provided support that has gone above and
>>   beyond anything I expected!
>>   With that said if someone wants to experiment
>>   that's great and I like to do the same things. I've
>>   been on this list for a while and I kept hearing about the
>>   BBB and never considered it until recently. I can tell a lot
>>   of work went into that.? There are some advanced features
>>   that have been scripted so all you have to do is follow the
>>   prompts. An example would be using a powered USB hub and
>>   making a image onto another USB flash drive while your
>>   system is live.? This is great since my system is at a
>>   remote site. So I can make a complete image remotely so if I
>>   loose a micro sd card. I can insert a new one and restore my
>>   card again.
>>   It would be great to see advances using the RPi
>>   since that is what ham radio is about.
>>   Bob / N1XBM
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