[App_rpt-users] Regarding Forum environment and Allstarlink development

Steve Zingman szingman at msgstor.com
Fri Jul 15 01:28:33 UTC 2016 

  I don't know what cluster fudge you are referring to. The people doing 
the development are communicating. Users are getting their questions 
answered. AllStar is not disappearing. I don't know who decided "not to 
press on" I don't know what help you want from the current developers. 
If you are going to learn to code, go for it. Download the source. If 
you have questions about the code, Just ask.

  You seem to think app_rpt HAS to move to a newer version of Asterisk. 
Maybe it does. Maybe it needs to be re-thought. Or just maybe it's 
working quite well. Over the last year, AllStar has moved to a current 
supported Linux distribution. It is now on multiple hardware platforms. 
New drivers are being deployed. New hardware is being supported. New 
gateways are being designed and built.

A lot of us have spent time and energy to document the existing programs 
and configurations.  Your complaint with the "old school mail list" is 
that there are no attachments. Maybe the place we discuss is not the 
place for the files. GIT and SVN do a great job of version control and 
collaboration. Videos are fine to show something to a new user but it 
does nothing to convey the hard information they need to edit 
configurations and get a feature going. I sure don't learn from a shaky 
camera and someone droning on for 15 minutes to find out they never 
cover my question. Building multiple places to discuss a project does 
not help move anything forward. It just make it harder to find a answer. 
If you need a ego boost by starting a forum, fine. More power to you.

Anytime someone disagrees, you are "stepping on toes" I'm here to tell 
you, you are not stepping on toes. You spout words that sound good but 
you don't know what it takes to do something.

I wish you well in your efforts. I hope I did not step on your toes.

I'm sure some people will disagree with parts or all of what I have to 
say. This is just how I feel.

73, Steve N4IRS

On 07/14/2016 08:07 PM, Loren Tedford wrote:
> Ah interesting.. Yea I decided to start this up after the other day.. 
> All i am trying to is bring some i don't know organization to a 
> cluster fudge..  maybe some video tutorials etc.. We really gotta help 
> out the new comers other wise they get frustrated and give up etc.. 
> The other side of the flip coin is I am personally going to try and 
> learn how to code.. Whether i get help from the already current 
> developers or not I will continue on.. I can't set back and watch some 
> thing as good as this disappear before our eyes because we decide not 
> to press on..
>
> Kinda like the ham IPs lol no one knows about them today but back when 
> they layed out ip addresses they left open ips for hams to use but 
> very few have ever used em.. Kinda sad really but if we do not 
> organize some where and we do not press forward with development then 
> we become stagnant..
>
> Sorry if i stepped on any toes regarding the building of it Just 
> trying to help out the best i know how..
>
> Meanwhile back to the you tube videos and learning c++ If i have to i 
> will rebuilding the silly thing from the ground up lol.. I hope not.. 
> I really hope some where along the line this grows interest and we can 
> get the ball moving and at least have a projected path with in 2 years..
>
>
>
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
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> Email: lorentedford at gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>
> Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com <mailto:KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com>
> http://www.lorentedford.com <http://www.lorentedford.com/>
> http://www.kc9zhv.com <http://www.kc9zhv.com/>
> http://forum.kc9zhv.com <http://forum.kc9zhv.com/>
> http://hub.kc9zhv.com <http://hub.kc9zhv.com/>
> http://Ltcraft.net<http://ltcraft.net/>
> http://voipham.com
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe at repeater.net 
> <mailto:n3fe at repeater.net>> wrote:
>
>     Scott n3xcc had already stated there is a forum that can be used
>     and it is already setup and running. I don't remember the address
>     of the top of my head but it doesn't make much sense to have
>     another one that is already there and not getting used.
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Jul 14, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Loren Tedford <lorentedford at gmail.com
>     <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>     Greetings app_rpt I have decided to try and start a forum with
>>     easily searchable titles etc.. In the forum if i get a chance or
>>     anyone else they can add you tube videos..
>>     voipham.com <http://voipham.com>
>>     I know its very basic and blah.. But it belongs to everyone.. I
>>     understand if you don't want to use it because its not an
>>     official allstarlink project or what ever.. I am hosting it on
>>     one of my web servers its no biggy here and if we can get
>>     progress out of our group i call it a success..
>>
>>
>>     I have shot the idea around to a couple of forums where i hang
>>     out about allstarlnk or app_rpt development in regards to what it
>>     would take to bring us at least some security patches and maybe
>>     even if we could update to a newer version.. I will post anything
>>     we come across that might be helpful here still in the mailing
>>     list but have decided to use the forum primarily this gives
>>     everyone a fighting chance and keeps the app_rpt open for what
>>     ever it might be needed for..
>>
>>
>>     Here is my thoughts so far as far as in the development side..
>>
>>     1. Do we continue using asterisk as it is and just make program
>>     side modifications to secure it..
>>     2. What is our goal in two years?
>>     3. How long can we operate the way we are on asterisk 1.4.23?
>>     4. Does newer versions work with raspberry pies?
>>     5. How much time if any is anyone willing to donate to working on
>>     this project?
>>
>>
>>     Anything I get I will post here as soon as know anything..  At
>>     this point i am not turning down any help to starting this
>>     project backup I will use any suggestion whether your a ham or
>>     not.. I think the goal now is stability and maintaining what we
>>     got.. Our future goal should be whether we go down the path with
>>     asterisk or just design some thing with in the app_rpt that will
>>     connect up with asterisk systems..
>>
>>
>>
>>     Just my two cents..
>>
>>
>>
>>     Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>>     Phone:
>>     Fax:
>>     Email: lorentedford at gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford at gmail.com>
>>     Email: KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com <mailto:KC9ZHV at KC9ZHV.com>
>>     http://www.lorentedford.com <http://www.lorentedford.com/>
>>     http://www.kc9zhv.com <http://www.kc9zhv.com/>
>>     http://forum.kc9zhv.com <http://forum.kc9zhv.com/>
>>     http://hub.kc9zhv.com <http://hub.kc9zhv.com/>
>>     http://Ltcraft.net<http://ltcraft.net/>
>>     http://voipham.com
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