[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 21

Chris HIll/K7AZ kilo7alphazulu at verizon.net
Mon Jun 6 18:28:48 UTC 2016


QRP Labs has a programable triple output frequency board that can be GPS sync'd.  Look for ProgRock.

73
K7AZ

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>From: Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com>
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>One method that would improve the simulcast performance without going nuts
>designing, troubleshooting and building a completely separate device to
>clock the RTCM to the GPSDO would be to replace the the 9.6 Mhz crystal
>with a TCXO. There are several available with a square wave 9.6 Mhz output
>with an accuracy of .3 ppm. Of course this won't make it perfect but its
>minimally invasive, cheap, easy and most importantly.... readily available.
>Another question I have is would an external oscillator with a sine wave
>output work? If so then there are 9.6 Mhz OCXO's (I found some on ebay)
>that would be an even further improvement.
>
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>On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> You are correct Joe.  The RTCM is a contender though it wouldn't exist or
>> would be useless without Jim's software.
>>
>> As Robert mentioned, and his friend is right.  I was warned by a local and
>> very knowledgeable elmer also.  Personally I'm simulcasting but fortunately
>> there is a node smack dab in the middle that "most" users will switch to so
>> they don't hear the issues in the overlap zones.
>>
>> I haven't yet cracked the RTCM's open to modify them and I may not ever do
>> it just cause i'm lazy.  It depends on how picky your users are.  That's
>> sort of a loaded question though.  When folks get used to allstar
>> (especially if you're running a high quality codec) and they travel into
>> one of these overlap zones they'll probably complain because they're used
>> to so much more fidelity!
>>
>> Does it work without jumping through all the hoops...?  Yes, it's just way
>> more ugly in the areas that have overlapping coverage.
>>
>> blah blah...i'm delirious and I still have two more night shifts to go!
>>
>> 73 de K0JSC
>>
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>>>    1. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Robert Newberry)
>>>    2. Re: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 16 (Joe Leikhim)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:56:57 -0400
>>> From: Robert Newberry <N1XBM at amsat.org>
>>> To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
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>>> Please don't flame me.
>>>
>>> I have a friend who used to work in the paging industry. When I talked to
>>> him about simulcast he was telling me about the paging industry the pains
>>> they went thru. He was saying that they used all of the same transmitters
>>> made around the same time. A signal can go from point A to B in
>>> transmitter
>>> a different lengths of time.
>>>
>>> He basically told me the same thing, that go do it and enjoy. He just
>>> warned me about PL sync and all of the details to getting it right. He
>>> just
>>> said at the end of the day that he was confident I could get it to work,
>>> but probably will not be satisfied with the results.
>>>
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>>> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:59:27 -0400
>>> From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com>
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>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 16
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>>> There was mention on this board that drift of the 9.6 MHz clock causes
>>> the CTCSS phase to shift. If this is the case, you will have audible
>>> noise and possibly receiver CTCSS drop outs in overlap areas. You will
>>> have distortion of audio frequencies as well.
>>>
>>> Whatever solution to the 9.6 MHz clock must be phase coherent between
>>> RTCM nodes .
>>>
>>> I have no experience with RTCM, but am quite familiar with commercial
>>> simulcast in the LMR world. I am lurking here because I see the RTCM as
>>> a very affordable contender to the commercial products that exist today.
>>>
>>> Joe K4SAT
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/6/2016 12:23 PM, Jeff Carrier wrote:
>>> > The RTCM and simulcast DOES work.  As mentioned before, you have to be
>>> > using a transmitter that can accept a 10 mHz (or whatever) reference
>>> > signal.  You also need 1 PPS for your receivers and transmitter.  You
>>> > also need to sync the RTCM to your GPSDO (which I have not done).  If
>>> > you have not done all this you WILL hear some "funk" in the overlap
>>> > areas.
>>> >
>>> > That "funk" can go from usable to un-usable depending on how strong
>>> > the transmitters are in the overlap region.
>>> >
>>> > Pardon the "non-technical" terms.  It does work but the law of physics
>>> > do apply here.
>>> >
>>> > de K0JSC
>>> >
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>>> >        1. Re: audio for direct VCO FM (Joe Leikhim) (Steve Wright)
>>> >        2. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Steve Wright)
>>> >        3. Re: audio for direct VCO FM: Si5351B (David McGough)
>>> >        4. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Joe Moskalski)
>>> >        5. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (David McGough)
>>> >        6. Re: RTCM Simulcast question (Joe Moskalski)
>>> >
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>>>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >     Message: 1
>>> >     Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:40:50 +1200
>>> >     From: Steve Wright <info at meshnetworks.co.nz
>>> >     <mailto:info at meshnetworks.co.nz>>
>>> >     To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> >     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] audio for direct VCO FM (Joe Leikhim)
>>> >     Message-ID: <57552902.9070008 at meshnetworks.co.nz
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>>> >     On 04/06/16 04:00, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com
>>> >     <mailto:rhyolite at leikhim.com>> wrote:
>>> >     > Assuming the VCO is part of a PLL, the PLL will tend to
>>> >     "correct" the
>>> >     > modulation, [....]
>>> >
>>> >     Was planning to use the Si5351B - has VCO input.
>>> >
>>> >     S
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >     Message: 2
>>> >     Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:22:36 +1200
>>> >     From: Steve Wright <info at meshnetworks.co.nz
>>> >     <mailto:info at meshnetworks.co.nz>>
>>> >     To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> >     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
>>> >     Message-ID: <575532CC.2020304 at meshnetworks.co.nz
>>> >     <mailto:575532CC.2020304 at meshnetworks.co.nz>>
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>>> >
>>> >     On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com
>>> >     <mailto:kc2irv at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     > I will be setting up a 2 site UHF simulcast system in the coming
>>> >     months
>>> >
>>> >     Huh?  I was told (on this list) that simulcast TX "doesn't work".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     S
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >     Message: 3
>>> >     Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
>>> >     From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net <mailto:kb4fxc at inttek.net>>
>>> >     To: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> >     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] audio for direct VCO FM: Si5351B
>>> >     Message-ID:
>>> >
>>> >     <Pine.LNX.4.44.1606060946450.4196-100000 at goliath.inttek.net
>>> >     <mailto:Pine.LNX.4.44.1606060946450.4196-100000 at goliath.inttek.net
>>> >>
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     Hi Steve,
>>> >
>>> >     We're getting way off topic for the mailing list, but, I thought
>>> >     I'd post
>>> >     this reply here if there are any other interested hams out there,
>>> >     perhaps
>>> >     who are also experimenting in this area.
>>> >
>>> >     I haven't played with the Si5351B version of this interesting
>>> >     chip, yet. I
>>> >     wonder whether the voltage control input of this chip would be
>>> >     suitable
>>> >     for AF FM modulation? Assuming that you could modulate the VCXO at
>>> >     audio
>>> >     frequencies (the datasheet isn't completely clear to me about
>>> >     that), an
>>> >     immediate issue would be that everytime you change the fractional-N
>>> >     division ratio, you'll change the modulation index. This will have
>>> >     to be
>>> >     compensated for, one way or another.
>>> >
>>> >     I've been playing with several boards with Si5351 chips. They're
>>> >     pretty
>>> >     neat. They're also pretty noisy! ...With both spurious and phase
>>> >     noise.
>>> >     The phase noise can be improved somewhat with a better external
>>> >     crystal
>>> >     oscillator, the spurs seem more challenging.  Using the on-board
>>> >     VCXO with
>>> >     the 5351B, you can't use a high quality external oscillator, so
>>> phase
>>> >     noise and overall frequency stability could be an issue, too.
>>> >
>>> >     Anyhow, for my applications, I'm following the Si5351 with a
>>> secondary
>>> >     clean-up VCO/PLL, which was already in the radios. I just needed a
>>> >     frequency-agile reference oscillator, so to speak. I think the
>>> >     Si5351 will
>>> >     work well for this, based on my preliminary tests! (I'd certainly
>>> >     like to
>>> >     hear the experiences from anyone who has already been down this
>>> road!)
>>> >
>>> >     I guess you're not finding any local sources of surplus radios?
>>> >     Do you
>>> >     have any 6m power amps available?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     73, David KB4FXC
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Steve Wright wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     > On 04/06/16 04:00, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com
>>> >     <mailto:rhyolite at leikhim.com>> wrote:
>>> >     > > Assuming the VCO is part of a PLL, the PLL will tend to
>>> >     "correct" the
>>> >     > > modulation, [....]
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Was planning to use the Si5351B - has VCO input.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > S
>>> >     >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >     Message: 4
>>> >     Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:03:11 -0400
>>> >     From: Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com <mailto:kc2irv at gmail.com>>
>>> >     To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> >     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
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>>> >
>>> >     > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly with
>>> >     the RTCM
>>> >     > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>>> >     available to
>>> >     > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the
>>> >     GPSDO or does
>>> >     > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them myself?
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
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>>> >     Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:36:01 -0400 (EDT)
>>> >     From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net <mailto:kb4fxc at inttek.net>>
>>> >     To: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> >     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
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>>> >
>>> >     Hi Joe,
>>> >
>>> >     While on the subject of the Si5351 chips, the application of
>>> >     converting
>>> >     one reference clock to a secondary frequency is what they were
>>> >     designed
>>> >     for. So, since you've already got a GPS reference, this -might- be
>>> an
>>> >     inexpensive starting point...For this application, you obviously
>>> won't
>>> >     need all the bells and whistles presented in this article! See:
>>> >
>>> >     http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf
>>> >     <http://www.knology.net/%7Egmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf>
>>> >     http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus <http://www.knology.net/%7Egmarcus>
>>> >
>>> >     Note that I would replace the Si5351 25MHz reference with a decent
>>> >     TCXO
>>> >     (available on ebay, etc.)....Note that I haven't used the Si5351
>>> >     with an
>>> >     RTCM, there may be simpler/better ways???
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     73, David KB4FXC
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly
>>> >     with the RTCM
>>> >     > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>>> >     available to
>>> >     > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the
>>> >     GPSDO or does
>>> >     > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them
>>> myself?
>>> >     > >
>>> >     > >
>>> >     >
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>>> >     Message: 6
>>> >     Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:54:11 -0400
>>> >     From: Joe Moskalski <kc2irv at gmail.com <mailto:kc2irv at gmail.com>>
>>> >     To: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net <mailto:kb4fxc at inttek.net>>
>>> >     Cc: App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org <mailto:App_rpt-users at ohnosec.org>
>>> >     Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Simulcast question
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>>> >
>>> >     I mentioned this to someone else, QRP Labs has a kit that creates
>>> >     a OCXO
>>> >     around the Si5351 chip. here is the link:
>>> >
>>> >     http://www.qrp-labs.com/ocxokit.html
>>> >
>>> >     If you couple this with another kit of theirs you can program it
>>> >     it any
>>> >     frequency you want. My only thought is would it be accurate/stable
>>> >     enough.
>>> >
>>> >     http://www.qrp-labs.com/progrock.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >     On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:36 AM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net
>>> >     <mailto:kb4fxc at inttek.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Hi Joe,
>>> >     >
>>> >     > While on the subject of the Si5351 chips, the application of
>>> >     converting
>>> >     > one reference clock to a secondary frequency is what they were
>>> >     designed
>>> >     > for. So, since you've already got a GPS reference, this -might-
>>> >     be an
>>> >     > inexpensive starting point...For this application, you obviously
>>> >     won't
>>> >     > need all the bells and whistles presented in this article! See:
>>> >     >
>>> >     > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf
>>> >     <http://www.knology.net/%7Egmarcus/Si5351/Si5351_VFO_QEX.pdf>
>>> >     > http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus <
>>> http://www.knology.net/%7Egmarcus>
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Note that I would replace the Si5351 25MHz reference with a
>>> >     decent TCXO
>>> >     > (available on ebay, etc.)....Note that I haven't used the Si5351
>>> >     with an
>>> >     > RTCM, there may be simpler/better ways???
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > 73, David KB4FXC
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Joe Moskalski wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     > > > It seems clear that in order for simulcast to work properly
>>> >     with the
>>> >     > RTCM
>>> >     > > > I will need to clock the CPU to the GPSDO. Is there a device
>>> >     available
>>> >     > to
>>> >     > > > give you the 9.6 mhz reference from the 10 mhz out from the
>>> >     GPSDO or
>>> >     > does
>>> >     > > > anyone have a schematic available so that I can build them
>>> >     myself?
>>> >     > > >
>>> >     > > >
>>> >     > > <
>>> >     >
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