[App_rpt-users] Non-RTCM voter, where?
Bryan Fields
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Wed Mar 30 16:30:16 UTC 2016
I don't believe it does.
Does anyone have a link to the xipar source repository? I'd like to take a look how they are doing it. It might be possible to do it via 1588 or some other network time protocol.
On March 30, 2016 12:01:38 PM EDT, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com> wrote:
>Without GPS, how does XIPAR deal with jitter and network latency?
>
>On 3/30/2016 11:25 AM, Jeff Ackerman wrote:
>> If you looking for the alternative IP voting of the varuious app_rpt
>> flavors you can try XIPAR: http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter
>>
>> It wont be as seamless of voting as a RTCM, but its much simpler,
>> doesnt require anything more then PC's, the IP backhaul and usb radio
>
>> interfaces with radios capable of giving discriminator audio.
>>
>> Conventional hardware voting comparators could work but require the
>> backhaul, which in most commercial applications is 4 wire e&m voice
>> circuits using either tone signaling or e&m signaling. (This method
>of
>> voting is done outside of allstar/app_rpt.)
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:09 AM, Joe Leikhim <rhyolite at leikhim.com
>> <mailto:rhyolite at leikhim.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Here are some products to start with;
>>
>> There is the Raven M4x
>>
>> http://www.ravencomm.com/documents/products_doc3_23.pdf
>>
>> Raytheon JPS SNV-12 (Though the future of this product is up in
>> the air, it was the defacto standard. Uses 600 ohm VF circuits,
>IP
>> connectivity needs to be overlaid)
>>
>http://www.simulcastsolutions.com/userfiles/file/appnotes/vSnv12App.pdf
>>
>> Motorola Spectra Tac (Obsolete Now Motorola has pretty much
>> abandoned analog FM technology. Uses 600 ohm VF circuits,)
>>
>http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/spectra-tac/spectratac-index.html
>>
>> The above voters all use some method of signal/noise voting. The
>> JPS SNV-12 and the Raven M4X use DSP to make decision, while the
>> Spectra Tac was pretty much an analog noise measurement vs a
>> status tone/audio AGC level. The SpectraTac does not support
>> non-Motorola receivers unless you know the "secret sauce" which I
>> am privy to.
>>
>> This site has some practical examples of projects that are
>> simulcast, but by design incorporate the SNV-12 voters.
>>
>> www.simulcastsolutions.com <http://www.simulcastsolutions.com>
>>
>> Are you looking for some more in depth RF design aspects of
>> receiver voting? I can help perhaps.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> www.leikhim.com <http://www.leikhim.com>
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/2016 5:20 AM, Steve Wright wrote:
>>
>> On 05/03/16 06:00, mike at midnighteng.com
>> <mailto:mike at midnighteng.com> wrote:
>>
>> FYI There are RTCM /voter systems for app_rpt if you want
>> to do it right.
>>
>>
>> Is there an example voting-RX project somewhere I can read
>about?
>>
>> Non-RTCM please. I know about the RTCM and I'm looking at
>> alternatives.
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Steve
>>
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