[App_rpt-users] Allstar Node

Andrew Sylthe asylthe at kc9ona.com
Wed Dec 26 22:38:12 UTC 2018


Wasn't all of the code held on Jim's SVN server? I'm guessing all the
commits were time stamped. Wouldn't that answer when the first time the GPL
blurb was included alongside the code?

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:58 PM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net wrote:

>
> My primary concern is: Who is the Copyright owner NOW for all the various
> AllStar related modules and as of what date were they released GPL2??
> I've got to have this answered in a legally acceptable way (e.g.:
> notarized affidavit).
>
> Incidentally, ASL, Inc., *SHOULD* be very concerned about this, too.
>
> As of the last several months, I now have a secondary concern as
> well---W9CR's Cyber-hickery.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Andrew Sylthe wrote:
>
> > David,
> >
> > Everyone seems to be in agreement that open source is a good thing. Would
> > you be willing to just address the entire list why you won't release the
> > source? That's the only question I would have. Why the source that you've
> > built upon is being kept under lock and key while it's being
> distributed...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Willem,
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the "GPL" is only a leverage tool that W9CR (and a few
> > > others) are barking about to quickly gain "community" support. You all
> are
> > > being used a pawns.
> > >
> > > There is a lot more to this story not known by many people.
> > >
> > > Little details like when Jim Dixon passed, he had no will
> ("Intestate").
> > > There is an open Probate case in the LA county courts right now. But no
> > > mention of anything related to AllStar. In fact, Jim had NO assets
> listed
> > > at all. Look at these  Court documents for yourself. This is a link to
> > > the LA County Court website:  https://www.lacourt.org/page/CI0100
> > > Click "Continue as Guest" at the bottom of this page and then use this
> > > case number: 17STPB08347
> > >
> > > When exactly did W9CR or ASL obtain copyright ownership??  This
> question
> > > has been asked repeatedly "behind the scenes." No Answer.  I have
> > > personally asked various persons for a legal statement about this. No
> > > Answer.
> > >
> > > Yes, I've seen the history posted by KE6PCV.
> > >
> > > I (and HamVoIP) have continually been called a "criminals," etc., by
> W9CR
> > > (and a few others). Are you aware that "criminal" proceeding can only
> be
> > > initiated by the copyright owner??  So far, I've not been contacted by
> the
> > > owner??
> > >
> > > Some other interesting facts include:
> > >
> > > How did W9CR obtain 9+ domains previously owned solely by Jim Dixon,
> as of
> > > his untimely death??  They include:
> > >
> > > allstarlink.com
> > > allstarlink.net
> > > allstarlink.org
> > > bsdtelephony.net
> > > duuuude.com
> > > lambdatel.com
> > > ofaa.org
> > > zapatatelephony.com
> > > zapatatelephony.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim also owned a /21 IPv4 subnet (206.82.240.0/21) when he passed.
> That
> > > also now belongs to W9CR, as of about 03/28/2018. See:
> > >
> > > https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-206-82-240-0-1/pft?s=206.82.247.18
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess you're also not aware that W9CR is trying to TRADEMARK the
> > > word-mark "AllStar" ???  Try searching the USPTO and take a look at the
> > > exhibits presented! Here is a link:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/search-trademark-database
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, it seems the pot will have to be stirred. This useless
> bull
> > > hockey WILL finally get resolved for once and for all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > >
> > > 73, David KB4FXC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Willem Schreuder wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018, Bryan D. Boyle wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > or ignore it and move on.
> > > >
> > > > I have to respectfully disagree.  We all have a responsibility to
> point
> > > > out where the GPL is violated, just like we should point out where
> hams
> > > > run afoul of Part 97.
> > > >
> > > > If we say it is up to the FCC to enforce Part 97, we do a disservice
> to
> > > > the ham community.  Just so if we say that we don't care about the
> GPL,
> > > it
> > > > does a disservice to people who contibute their ideas and talents by
> > > > contributing software.
> > > >
> > > > If we simply stay silent and ignore the problem, there is no chance
> of
> > > > correcting the problem other than draconian enforcement actions.
> > > >
> > > > But let's be civil in how we go about it.
> > > >
> > > > ================================================================
> > > > Dr. Willem A. Schreuder,  President,  Principia Mathematica
> > > > Address:  445 Union Blvd, Suite 230,  Lakewood, CO  80228, USA
> > > > Tel: (303) 716-3573   Fax: (303) 716-3575
> > > > WWW: www.prinmath.com   Email: Willem.Schreuder at prinmath.com
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