[App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 109, Issue 3
Jesse Lloyd
ve7lyd at gmail.com
Sun Mar 4 22:02:59 UTC 2018
Sounds good I'll send the attachment to your email, but keep the text to
the group going,
I suspect the mail server stripped any attachments.
All you need, and I suggest you keep the MSR as simple as possible, is the
Rx board, the Tx board and the Audio and Squelch card. This only works if
you intend to use an external controller (like an Allstar interface).
If you use a RTCM from Micro-Node, since it takes discriminator audio and
has its own squelch, I suspect you could do without the A&S card too.
If you have a PL card you can use it if you want, though it's reed based...
no guarantee it'll be reliable after all these years.
Now, if you want to remove the Station Control Card you have the enable F1
permanently on the Tx card, so tie Pin 12 low. The Station Control card is
normally responsible for enabling the various channels on the Tx and Rx
channels. I think there is a jumper on the Tx card too that'll permanently
enable it, I prefer to do it on the backplane.
If I recall correctly the RF PA has an enable line that also needs to be
tied low.
The MSR2000 is complicated. It was designed by Motorola to do everything
the Micor could do. The Micor did wireline control, paging, repeater,
remote base operation, and much more. To change from one mode to another a
pile of jumpers on the backplane and on the cards have to change. You need
the manual. If you pull all the cards out there shouldn't be any audio or
COR/PTT paths between the Rx and the Tx and the jumpers shouldn't matter at
that point.
Also for power, what I like to do is take a 9.6V TO220 linear regulator and
mount it to the backplane and use it to power the 9.6 volt circuits from
the 12V input. That way I can get rid of the old beast of a power supply,
and its dried out filter caps, and use a new supply to power it.
Cheers,
Jesse
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2 at hotmail.fr> wrote:
> jesse,
>
> thanks for responding
>
> i dont see any attachment,,all i am seeing is coded page.
>
> please send it direct at me
>
> ve2ckn2 at hotmail.fr
>
>
> what interface did you connect on these card?
>
>
> thanks again
>
> i have no knowledge so i am doing this from the beginning
>
>
> 73
>
> gervais
>
> ve2ckn
>
>
>
> ps if you have any pictures send them,i will look at them
>
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
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> 1. MRS2000 interface for AllStar ??? (Gervais Fillion)
> 2. Re: MRS2000 interface for AllStar ??? (mike at midnighteng.com)
> 3. Re: MRS2000 interface for AllStar ??? (Jesse Lloyd)
> 4. AllStar interface and + (Gervais Fillion)
> 5. Question???? (David Waters)
> 6. Re: Question???? (mike at midnighteng.com)
> 7. Re: AllStar interface and + (mike at midnighteng.com)
> 8. Re: Question???? (mike at midnighteng.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 20:58:09 +0000
> From: Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2 at hotmail.fr>
> To: "app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org"
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] MRS2000 interface for AllStar ???
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> hi all
>
> well i dont know if i am in the ight group to ask my question,i will let
> the Moderator filter it:
>
>
> i have an MSR2000 here that i want to be used on AllStar,i need to know
> what interface i should buy,how to connect it ??
>
>
> i have not found yet on Facebook any Groups about AllStar.
>
>
> Can you help me,anyone have experiences,
>
> any help will appreciated.
>
> thanks
>
> 73's
>
> Gervais
>
> ve2ckn
>
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> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 16:29:41 -0500
> From: mike at midnighteng.com
> To: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] MRS2000 interface for AllStar ???
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> Well Gervais,
> You are in the right place for help with allstar and app-rpt.
>
> What you do and how you do it is not entirely written in stone.
> Lots of dependencies on what you have to work with and any site /
> hardware limitations.
>
> Sp your first step is probably reading, and lots of it so you can
> make the right decisions for your install from the beginning.
>
> This link may help get you started so you are asking the right
> questions anyway...
>
> http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/
> Asterisk/app_rpt | The fusion of 2-way radio systems and VoIP
> <http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/>
> docs.allstarlink.org
> The ohnosec.org/drupal site will be going away soon, if it hasn't all
> ready, due to lack of support. While the domain name ohnosec (that moment
> you realize you really ...
>
>
>
> Since the last time I have responded to this same question, some time
> ago, a lot has changed.
> Many flavors of computer hardware are supported including raspberry
> pi.
> I don't wish to advise you on what you should use but if I were you
> starting out, I think I would experiment a bit with a old PC running
> at 2ghz and 2gb ram
> with the ACID software found at allstarlink.org
> get to know the in's and out's before leaping into unfamiliar hardware
> that might add to the learning pain.
>
> You might state to the group what you intend to do with the system...
> ie remote mountain repeater or wide area voted system
> and perhaps someone will pick it up from there.
>
> Anyway, this is the place to ask questions to your problems.
> Plenty of guys read this daily.
>
> 73 for now,
>
> ...mike/kb8jnm
>
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> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> To:"app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org"
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Cc:
> Sent:Sat, 3 Mar 2018 20:58:09 +0000
> Subject:[App_rpt-users] MRS2000 interface for AllStar ???
>
> hi all
>
> well i dont know if i am in the ight group to ask my question,i
> will
> let the Moderator filter it:
>
> i have an MSR2000 here that i want to be used on AllStar,i need to
> know what interface i should buy,how to connect it ??
>
> i have not found yet on Facebook any Groups about AllStar.
>
> Can you help me,anyone have experiences,
>
> any help will appreciated.
>
> thanks
>
> 73's
>
> Gervais
>
> ve2ckn
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 13:32:23 -0800
> From: Jesse Lloyd <ve7lyd at gmail.com>
> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] MRS2000 interface for AllStar ???
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> To interface it you'll need to make a cable and solder it to some pick off
> points.
>
> Attached is the drawing I made when wiring MSR2000's to controllers.
>
> All you need is an A&S (Audio and Squelch) card and a Station Control
> card. I don't use the "squelch card", as the squelch in the A&S card is
> superior.
>
> I like pin 8 on the A&S card for discriminator audio, pin 17 for muted
> de-emphasised audio
> Pin 20 on the A&S for COS (active hi). I typically soldered on a PNP
> transistor in the A&S card and pulled an open collector out to pin 5 for an
> active low COS line.
>
> Tx audio is on pin 11 of the squelch card.
> PTT (active low) is pin 7 of the Station Control Card.
>
> Cheers,
> Jesse
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2 at hotmail.fr>
> wrote:
>
> > hi all
> >
> > well i dont know if i am in the ight group to ask my question,i will let
> > the Moderator filter it:
> >
> >
> > i have an MSR2000 here that i want to be used on AllStar,i need to know
> > what interface i should buy,how to connect it ??
> >
> >
> > i have not found yet on Facebook any Groups about AllStar.
> >
> >
> > Can you help me,anyone have experiences,
> >
> > any help will appreciated.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > 73's
> >
> > Gervais
> >
> > ve2ckn
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 01:33:37 +0000
> From: Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2 at hotmail.fr>
> To: "app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org"
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] AllStar interface and +
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> hi all
>
> i need some support:
>
> i have here and Baofeng 888 that has been mofify with a sound card and a
> Cheap Chinese Pi clone ,modified so it runs SVXLINK and Echolink.
>
>
> i need someone that could take a look and tell me if i can modify and used
> it on Allstar.
>
>
> thats not me that built it so i dont know what has been done but it is
> working no1.
>
>
> Also i got an MSR2000 VHF that i want to modufy for AllStar,,
>
> what interface should i baught?
>
>
> is there any web site that gaving some help of what need to be done ?
>
>
>
> i could exchange anyway this Echolink 888 also for an AllStar since i dont
> need it,i want to try AllStar.
>
>
>
> thanks in advance for your help,it is mostly appreciated
>
> 73's
>
> Gervais
>
> VE2CKN
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> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 21:56:23 -0500
> From: David Waters <dwaters5 at yahoo.com>
> To: app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Question????
> Message-ID: <73360E7B-443C-4113-BD64-7E63786575F1 at yahoo.com>
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> What if anything could cause your node to key up without you knowing about
> it?
> I check my node status and in 8 hours 15 mins. I have 285 keyups. Buy I
> happen to know that the node was only keyed up physically 15 times on that
> 8 hour window.
> So I don’t know where the 285 is coming from . So can a node key up
> without you knowing it?? If so where do I start looking for the problem .
> This has me confused.
>
>
> David Waters
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 08:39:38 -0500
> From: mike at midnighteng.com
> To: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question????
> Message-ID:
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> I would not get to excited about those stats David,
>
> I think you will find that while you are connected to some other node
> in the network that it counts every cos trigger of any connected node
> even if your node never drops out.
> So it's not just counting local cos triggers.
>
> ...mike/kb8jnm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt"
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> To:<app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Cc:
> Sent:Sat, 3 Mar 2018 21:56:23 -0500
> Subject:[App_rpt-users] Question????
>
> What if anything could cause your node to key up without you knowing
> about it?
> I check my node status and in 8 hours 15 mins. I have 285 keyups. Buy
> I happen to know that the node was only keyed up physically 15 times
> on that 8 hour window.
> So I don’t know where the 285 is coming from . So can a node key up
> without you knowing it?? If so where do I start looking for the
> problem . This has me confused.
>
> David Waters
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> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 09:12:28 -0500
> From: mike at midnighteng.com
> To: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] AllStar interface and +
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> The short answer to your Baofeng question is but a question itself
> since I'm not familiar with it...
>
> If it will work on any repeater, it will work. But one would need to
> question the stability and sensitivity of those products for use in a
> repeater.
>
> As you are new, I thought I might direct you to some terminology so
> you might ask the right questions the right way to get a accurate
> answer.
> And I'm not sure why this is not explained to newbies on any of the
> websites, perhaps it is and I have not seen it.
>
> Allstar is a network of repeater systems connected by software called
> app_prt which is a open source software riding on top of asterisk
> which is also a open source software of a VOIP telephone PBX.
>
> All of these software installations ride on top of various versions of
> the linux operating system.
>
> It is the app_rpt software that has interface to your radios.
> When you connect to the network, you are basically making a VOIP call
> to other stations via the asterisk PBX.
> So your first start (in my opinion) is to get a working model of the
> computer with software in operation, then worry about how to interface
> the radios.
> You have a lot to learn about this and lucky for you, many have worked
> hard to make it easier to get it started.
> But it does require some knowledge and will to do from many areas.
>
> For a install on a RPi, Here is some reading and tutorials
>
> http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/170
> DIAL FAQ | Asterisk/app_rpt - AllStar Link
> <http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/170>
> docs.allstarlink.org
> Q: What does DIAL stand for? A: Debian Installation for AllStar Link. Q:
> How do I login to DIAL? A: You can login as user debian with a password of
> debian (normal ...
>
>
>
> http://www.qsl.net/w2ymm/dial_howto.html
> Allstar on Dial - QSL.net <http://www.qsl.net/w2ymm/dial_howto.html>
> www.qsl.net
> It is just a quick thing I put together, This should not be your go to
> source for info
>
>
>
> http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/75
>
> There is always more than one way to skin a cat. Keep that in mind
> throughout.
>
> This can be a frustrating adventure depending on your knowledge in
> computers, the linux OS and radio/repeaters.
>
> Please know that this project is completed entirely by volunteers who
> do it for the fun of it, donating hundreds if not thousands of hours
> to it.
> And there is always more to be done.
>
> Perhaps one of the Pi users can chime in with better set of
> instruction/introductions, I use the ACID version... Good luck
>
> ...mike/kb8jnm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt"
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> To:"app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org"
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Cc:
> Sent:Sun, 4 Mar 2018 01:33:37 +0000
> Subject:[App_rpt-users] AllStar interface and +
>
> hi all
>
> i need some support:
>
> i have here and Baofeng 888 that has been mofify with a sound card
> and a Cheap Chinese Pi clone ,modified so it runs SVXLINK and
> Echolink.
>
> i need someone that could take a look and tell me if i can modify
> and
> used it on Allstar.
>
> thats not me that built it so i dont know what has been done but it
> is working no1.
>
> Also i got an MSR2000 VHF that i want to modufy for AllStar,,
>
> what interface should i baught?
>
> is there any web site that gaving some help of what need to be
> done ?
>
>
> i could exchange anyway this Echolink 888 also for an AllStar
> since i
> dont need it,i want to try AllStar.
>
> thanks in advance for your help,it is mostly appreciated
>
> 73's
>
> Gervais
>
> VE2CKN
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 09:20:19 -0500
> From: mike at midnighteng.com
> To: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt" <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Question????
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> Additionally, I should have mentioned this possibility to my last
> post...
>
> Not sure, but I think when you use the scheduler and issue commends
> through it,
> (like time announcements etc)
> it may trigger a count to the cos/key-ups.
> The reason I say that is in the software, I think the logical cos must
> be true to accept commends.
> But as I say, not sure. And I'm not sure it is all that important
> unless it's causing you a problem.
>
> ...mike/kb8jnm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Users of Asterisk app_rpt"
> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> To:<app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>
> Cc:
> Sent:Sat, 3 Mar 2018 21:56:23 -0500
> Subject:[App_rpt-users] Question????
>
> What if anything could cause your node to key up without you knowing
> about it?
> I check my node status and in 8 hours 15 mins. I have 285 keyups. Buy
> I happen to know that the node was only keyed up physically 15 times
> on that 8 hour window.
> So I don’t know where the 285 is coming from . So can a node key up
> without you knowing it?? If so where do I start looking for the
> problem . This has me confused.
>
> David Waters
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