[App_rpt-users] Politics
Loren Tedford
loren at lorentedford.com
Tue Sep 18 16:59:11 UTC 2018
Ok.. Sounds good I guess i must have missed some of the emails along the
line.. I updated one of my videos on the installation of Allstarlink
today and looking to eventually get around to show people how to setup
config scripts including allmon as well but for the rest of the day i
gotta get back to streaming and a couple of games today..
Trust me i was looking forward to getting this video made for awhile now
but looking to do a playlist on this so that way in case i some thing
changes all i gotta do is adjust the playlist accordingly rather the re
edit a long video.
https://youtu.be/iOvmE2lk99M
anyway off to the projects..
73
KC9ZHV
Loren Tedford
On 9/18/2018 10:42 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
> Loren,
>
> Hamvoip.com not voipham.com <http://voipham.com>. Didn't know about
> voipham.com <http://voipham.com>. If I transposed the URL in one of my
> emails, my apologies.
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:06 AM Loren Tedford <loren at lorentedford.com
> <mailto:loren at lorentedford.com>> wrote:
>
> I have been seeing some of theses posts.. But what the heck is
> going on????????????
>
>
> Is this over the whole deal where i am degrading the product or
> what ever because of my purchase of voipham.com
> <http://voipham.com>? I created it originally to be a tutorial
> kinda page for those of us that had trouble installing allstar
> link back in the day.. Yeah i know its about 5 or 6 years old now
> and i haven't done much with it since my accident in October of
> 2014 and sorry about that.. Also Tim I am looking at digging a bit
> further into allmon will update things eventually but was looking
> at making it more mobile compliant that sort of thing and possibly
> locking it down with like an admin page using MySQL database or
> some thing.. Just haven't gotten around to having Mark to help me
> with some of that since i have forgotten just about all of it now.
>
>
> Anyway still trying to figure out exactly what i missed that
> started this whole political incorrectness or what ever..
>
>
> Thank You all involved :) Keep up the good work!
>
> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/18/2018 9:11 AM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
>> Supermon is based on my Allmon 2 software
>> https://github.com/tsawyer/allmon2 which I give freely to anyone
>> who wants it with no restrictions. If the HamVoIP folks told you
>> not to port Supermon to Allstarlink, that further demonstrates
>> their total disregard for fairness.
>>
>> But it's more than fairness. Great things in humanity are built
>> upon the knowledge of others. Software is no exception. HamVoIP
>> took Asterisk/AllStar/app_rpt which has thousands of hours of
>> development by countless people and closed it, ending the path to
>> the next level of knowledge. Think about where we'd be if no one
>> shared their knowledge. "We stand on the shoulders of giants" is
>> the point I'm making. No one will be standing on HamVoIP's
>> shoulders.
>>
>> HamVoIP (David) did give back some code (a security fix) to
>> Allmon 2. A whole lot more of that should be happening.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM Pierre Martel <petem001 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:petem001 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I had the pleasur to be in the moderated status on that list
>> after asking for the source code.. I was even kicked out
>> after I publicly told them I would use there packet of
>> supermon to port it to allstar link. Never did as I dont want
>> to agravate this with the coder of supermon, wich I dont
>> remember the name.
>>
>>
>>
>> Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 01:03, Buddy Brannan
>> <buddy at brannan.name <mailto:buddy at brannan.name>> a écrit :
>>
>> Harold, did you get put on moderated status after daring
>> to question the lack of any source code release? I did.
>> No real skin off my nose, but still.
>>
>> As for the magnetic loop group, do you mean
>> magloop at yahoogroups? I skim there, generally a pretty
>> decent bunch, but there’s always someone who will try to
>> ruin it for everyone. (Sigh) And so it goes. Sadly, our
>> hobby is a microcosm of society in general; were it not so.
>>
>>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:33 PM, <k7ilo1 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:k7ilo1 at gmail.com>> <k7ilo1 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:k7ilo1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don’t know much about them but after going to the
>>> website, it reminded me of how I had known about them.
>>> They private emailed me about what they were up to after
>>> I hit this post with a question about something that I
>>> don’t remember, but that’s besides the point.
>>> The email if I remember correctly was kind of, in a way,
>>> hateful toward the asterisk group.
>>> I never pursued their website or anything else about
>>> them since.
>>> It really sucks that OUR HOBBY has become this way. I
>>> left the magnetic loop group after expressing my
>>> feelings toward something that was said.
>>> It put down all of the people that had joined this hobby
>>> during the 90’s when the FCC introduced the no code
>>> technician and they bashed the crap out of em.
>>> Which I took personal because Im one of them.
>>> Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how
>>> political and how ham groups bash the other. What has
>>> OUR HOBBY come to?
>>> Harold
>>> K7ILO
>>> Las Vegas, NV.
>>> Node 27863
>>> *From:*App_rpt-users
>>> <app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org
>>> <mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces at lists.allstarlink.org>>*On
>>> Behalf Of*Tim Sawyer
>>> *Sent:*Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:11 PM
>>> *To:*Users of Asterisk app_rpt
>>> <app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org
>>> <mailto:app_rpt-users at lists.allstarlink.org>>
>>> *Subject:*[App_rpt-users] Politics
>>>
>>> There has been a ton of inaccurate statements by the
>>> HamVoIP principals in numerous posts, emails and
>>> telephone calls regarding what AllStarLink is up
>>> to. Before you read the rest of this email please take a
>>> look at the August 16 post over on hamVoIP.org
>>> <http://hamVoIP.org>.
>>> I really don't want to wade into this political BS. I
>>> should be coding not spending time on this BS. Even so
>>> I've spent tons of time behind the scenes attempting to
>>> get folks working together. I hesitate to speak publicly
>>> on this but my low key approach has not worked. So, some
>>> false statements must be publicly corrected. I will
>>> address only this particular post at this time.
>>> First, "The server" is not owned by one person. The very
>>> reason AllStarLink, Inc. was formed is to prevent that
>>> scenario.
>>> Second, there is not just one server. There are numerous
>>> servers around the country run by folks that donate
>>> their time, effort and money.
>>> Third, HamVoIP principals continually imply that AllStar
>>> was unofficially taken over. That's just not true. The
>>> reigns were turned as officially as possible given Jim's
>>> sudden death. Jim's long time friends and co-developers
>>> of AllStar contacted current and past AllStarLink board
>>> members and made arrangements for what you see today.
>>> Additionally, it's true that migration to the new
>>> servers didn't go perfectly. But it's extreme unfair to
>>> bash individuals who are only attempting to improve
>>> AllStar. Ham Radio is about learning if it's about
>>> anything. Making mistakes happens as part of the
>>> learning process. Now we have a better system and no one
>>> got shot as my Marine friend used to say.
>>> The August 16 HamVoIP statements are divisive and only
>>> serve to build up some individuals at the expense of
>>> others. To HamVoIP principals I say enough of that crap!
>>> If you want to build a better mouse trap you are welcome
>>> to that. Go for it. But don't justify yourself by
>>> speaking badly of others who have nothing but good
>>> intentions.
>>> --
>>> Tim WD6AWP
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