[FRC] Melbourne update

Fri Nov 11 17:31:30 EST 2016

@ Mickey, I never blamed Bryan for anything. Unlike you, I knew Ray, and
considered him a friend. Forgive me if my words didn't come out right -
Brevard county amateur radio operators are all feeling the loss. I was just
trying to say Ray was SK, and that I had tried in the past to let folks
(including Bryan) know of his ailing health.

@ Bryan, thanks for the update, and your efforts.

-Kevin (KK4YEL)

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Mickey Baker <n4mb at arrl.net> wrote:

> >>   I sure hope the added stress of this matter didn't lead to his heart
> attack/passing.
>
> This is a ridiculous statement. God forbid that we stress someone by
> trying to get an organization to be a bit less disfunctional. I didn't know
> Ray personally, but obviously he chose these duties, never relinquished
> them and, I would guess, took satisfaction in the FRC duties. His health
> may have had something to do with the issues that have arisen, certainly
> the vesting of the actual coordination with one person and one database in
> a single place (until it was hacked) is something that reflected issues,
> but you can't blame folks like Bryan who simply identified issues. I
> haven't heard any personal attacks from anyone.
>
> Most of us have responsibilities that will need doing after our own death.
> It is incumbent upon ALL of us to delegate and insure that succession of
> these responsibilites. If we don't, we don't even have ourselves to blame!
>
> When I was president of the Broward ARC, I clearly stated the need for
> succession and promised that I would serve no more than two years.
>
> I see little need for repeater coordination these days except in urban
> areas and "ego repeaters." I, personally think we can do without the FRC
> and move to a more informal method, or perhaps a web based registry. After
> all the top level certifying agency, the NFCC seems to be defunct, so there
> would be no authority basis for the FRC..
>
> Mickey N4MB
>
>
> Mickey Baker, N4MB
> Fort Lauderdale, FL
> *“Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve me,
> and I will learn.” *Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Kevin Zari <kk4yel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well you won't be able to work with Ray, as he died. I sure hope the
>> added stress of this matter didn't lead to his heart attack/passing.
>>
>> While I think you may be within your legal rights, and have good
>> intentions, as I told you before, Ray had just gotten out of some major
>> heart surgery, and was slowly recovering. Not sure what will become of the
>> FRC now.
>>
>> God rest his soul. 73 Ray Kassis-  You were a man with a good heart.
>> -Kevin (KK4YEL)
>>
>>
>> -----
>>
>> The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of
>> doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.
>>
>> > On Nov 10, 2016, at 21:26, Bryan Fields <Bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I've been holding off on this as I was hoping to have more forward
>> progress to
>> > report.  Also I've been rather busy at work with out much free time to
>> devote
>> > to FRC issues.
>> >
>> > Video/audio of the meeting is here:
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLDaJj0OY3U
>> >
>> > Prior to the meeting President Kassis and other board members had a
>> discussion
>> > with my group.  The president wanted to know why we were demanding his
>> > removal, and I explained his failure to follow the law and the bylaws
>> made him
>> > unfit for office.  The same held true for directors Fletcher, Rodkis and
>> > Lavender.  The president failed to comprehend how not responding to my
>> inquiry
>> > and my attorneys inquiry was actionable and exposed us to liability.
>> >
>> > Secretary Fletcher would not even make eye contact with me when asked
>> about
>> > the phone call he placed to me regarding this inquiry.  He denied even
>> placing
>> > it.
>> >
>> > This was not a good start, but we did make some progress.  What we did
>> agree
>> > on was to start a process development committee (PDC) where any member
>> can
>> > propose changes to process and the bylaws and the rest of the members
>> will
>> > vote on it.  This will check the authority of the board and allow any
>> members
>> > to improve FRC process/policies.  My friend Dave, NX4Y agreed to be the
>> PDC
>> > chair with me being a member of this committee.
>> >
>> > This was our agreement going into the meeting.  I thought we had some
>> good
>> > progress, and was I positive going into the formal FRC meeting.
>> >
>> > At the meeting we did get some of what we wanted, director Lavender was
>> absent
>> > and had tendered his resignation.  The director Butler resigned as well.
>> > Secretary Fletcher, President Kassis, and Dana Rodakis (not present)
>> refused
>> > to resign, but President Kassis had given me his word we would work
>> together.
>> >
>> > All was fine till we got to the board meeting, and it was quite obvious
>> > Secretary Fletcher runs things as if he's the president.  One of his
>> first
>> > orders of business was to remove Director Gonzalez from the board for
>> missing
>> > two meetings.
>> >
>> > While this is permitted under the bylaws, the FRC has never done it
>> before.
>> > The Director was an acquaintance of mine and director Fetcher made a
>> motion to
>> > remove him due in no small part to this.
>> >
>> > President Kassis reappointed the removed Director and they voted to
>> accept it,
>> > with the notable exception of Secretary Fletcher.
>> >
>> > After this they created the Process development committee as we'd
>> agreed to
>> > with Dave, NX4Y as the chair.  However they appointed a number of
>> people to
>> > the PDC and refused to appoint me as agreed prior.
>> >
>> > Adding further insult to this, Secretary Fletcher invented a new point
>> of
>> > business that I was a member of the FRC, as the board never voted to
>> approve
>> > my membership.  I have been paid for 3 year, have PayPal receipts to
>> Dana
>> > Rodakis proving this, and in the history of the FRC, no members have
>> ever been
>> > approved by the board. Further he stated, they can't process any
>> memberships
>> > as the treasurer was not in attendance!
>> >
>> > Moving past this as they knew they were on shaky legal ground, Secretary
>> > Fletcher with President Kassis now invented the requirement that I stop
>> all
>> > legal action and consulting with my attorney regarding the FRC.  This
>> is quite
>> > illegal.  I had to get up and raise my voice for the President to live
>> up to
>> > his end of our agreement.
>> >
>> > Eventually a compromise was reached with me agreeing to halt any legal
>> matters
>> > and I'll be part of the committee.  Regardless I said I would consider
>> the
>> > matter closed and we moved forward.
>> >
>> > As of now we have a PDC forum website and we're working on the process
>> of the
>> > PDC.  Once this is done, any member will be able to write up a proposal
>> and
>> > have it voted on by the membership.  I believe this will allow us to
>> change
>> > the FRC for the better in the long term.  Our goal is to be up and
>> running
>> > with this in a couple months from Melbourne.
>> >
>> > Once this is in place we'll be able to attack the ongoing issues such
>> as:
>> >    New coordination taking months or years
>> >    Renewals not being processed in a timely manner
>> >    The ongoing issue of paper repeaters
>> >    Unprotected or test pairs
>> >    Single points of failure
>> >    Legal compliance (FL, IRS, etc.)
>> >    Etc.
>> >
>> > We're going to work hard with the board over the next few months and I
>> hope
>> > we'll have some forward progress soon.  This is most significant
>> development
>> > to come from the FRC in the past 20 years.
>> >
>> > Let's look to the future and how we can improve coordination in Florida.
>> >
>> > 73's
>> > --
>> > Bryan Fields
>> >
>> > 727-409-1194 - Voice
>> > http://bryanfields.net
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