Darril Holland pass March 2 and I will like you take hem off you email holldrl@gt.rr.com ---- "Bryan D. Boyle" <bdboyle@bdboyle.com> wrote:
Time is worth something; reinventing the wheel to accomplish what already exists is, to me, and me only, a waste of time. there are a lot more other interesting things to do in the hobby, for me and me only, than hack at cheap chinese sound dongles to try and get them to do what is already accomplished by supporting fellow hams who have taken the time to think it through and don't charge an arm and leg to do so.
But that is my opinion on how I interface and spend my time in the hobby. How you view it is how you view it. Whether you agree with me or not or not is irrelevant as is your opinion, to me and me only, as to how I view what my time is worth in making that decision whether to build or buy. Neither view is absolutely wrong, and neither is absolutely right, jus as the motivation for doing so.
besides, it's just a hobby, and has no importance other than that. I walked away from it in 1989 when I lost interest, and have no doubt that I will do the same again before my final chapter is written.
-- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message.
On Mar 16, 2016, at 01:44, Jim Aspinwall <no1pc@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Kevin, more positive from you!
Others: "billable time" - seriously? that's a play I work on consumer vendors for spite.
If you back-bill your hobby and intellectual time on self-assigned-worth values... in THIS context. Thanks for your call, we'll get back to you, never.
We're talking about $3-12 free-market parts and 20 minutes of gawd-awful soldering level of effort here. Sheesh.
I am just curious about and enabling least-common-denominator implementation and idea sharing as supplies morph and shift. If I wanted $450/hr engineering... well, a lot of folks would starve. Campbells or Progressive cans? When I make all this work, the for-self-assigned-value folks self-obligated to a sub-contracted fee of $375 per implementation, non-commercial... I want to be fair and allow you something for your list trolling and link-clicking efforts.
(I am familiar with intellectual property, fair-use and public domain issues... you admitted to be exempt and obligated otherwise! pffft.)
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The original CM-108/-109-based products a few have documented mods for are evaporating from common availability.? A few of us have ordered or tried to order from "known good links" (circa 2014/2015) off Amazon or eBay only to encounter dead/expired/no-longer-available links or "byte the bullet" and opt for a 108/109-claiming look-alike and come up with yet another version of unusable product. If we can determine the same/similar/equivalent pinout locations between the 108, 109, 119 or whatever different chips we might be able to revise some of the mod docs for alternatives. However, the latest small batch I acquired came with not pin-exposed chip-on-board (for which there could be more hope) but connection flooded die-on-board implementations and drastically differently layout, no direct access to pins without risking the chip trying to 'uncap' it. Two recent acquisitions pictured: http://www.no1pc.org/radio/NewerChip.jpg?- CM119 chip - one such device has already been proven to work with IRLP and Asterisk via Pi - but I'd like to do the PTT/COS tap-offs.
http://www.no1pc.org/radio/DieOnBoard2.jpg?- not yet sure of the chip, but pinouts are obviously a challenge.
I can try to poke about and see if the exposed-pin CM119 is viable, if someone familiar with the chips or their layout can advice. ?The die-version - good luck? Ideas? ?Existing updates?