Thanks Kevin, more positive from you! Others: "billable time" - seriously? that's a play I work on consumer vendors for spite. If you back-bill your hobby and intellectual time on self-assigned-worth values... in THIS context. Thanks for your call, we'll get back to you, never. We're talking about $3-12 free-market parts and 20 minutes of gawd-awful soldering level of effort here. Sheesh. I am just curious about and enabling least-common-denominator implementation and idea sharing as supplies morph and shift. If I wanted $450/hr engineering... well, a lot of folks would starve. Campbells or Progressive cans? When I make all this work, the for-self-assigned-value folks self-obligated to a sub-contracted fee of $375 per implementation, non-commercial... I want to be fair and allow you something for your list trolling and link-clicking efforts. (I am familiar with intellectual property, fair-use and public domain issues... you admitted to be exempt and obligated otherwise! pffft.) From: "app_rpt-users-request@ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users-request@ohnosec.org> To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:51 PM Subject: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 85, Issue 26 Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to app_rpt-users-request@ohnosec.org You can reach the person managing the list at app_rpt-users-owner@ohnosec.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. USB Sound Dongle Challenges (Jim Aspinwall) 2. New Dongle Potential (Jim Aspinwall) 3. Re: New Dongle Potential (Kevin Custer) 4. Re: New Dongle Potential (Bryan D. Boyle) 5. Re: New Dongle Potential (Steve Zingman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:05:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Jim Aspinwall <no1pc@yahoo.com> To: "app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Subject: [App_rpt-users] USB Sound Dongle Challenges Message-ID: <504928773.650221.1458079554502.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" The original CM-108/-109-based products a few have documented mods for are evaporating from common availability.? A few of us have ordered or tried to order from "known good links" (circa 2014/2015) off Amazon or eBay only to encounter dead/expired/no-longer-available links or "byte the bullet" and opt for a 108/109-claiming look-alike and come up with yet another version of unusable product. If we can determine the same/similar/equivalent pinout locations between the 108, 109, 119 or whatever different chips we might be able to revise some of the mod docs for alternatives. However, the latest small batch I acquired came with not pin-exposed chip-on-board (for which there could be more hope) but connection flooded die-on-board implementations and drastically differently layout, no direct access to pins without risking the chip trying to 'uncap' it. Two recent acquisitions pictured: http://www.no1pc.org/radio/NewerChip.jpg?- CM119 chip - one such device has already been proven to work with IRLP and Asterisk via Pi - but I'd like to do the PTT/COS tap-offs. http://www.no1pc.org/radio/DieOnBoard2.jpg?- not yet sure of the chip, but pinouts are obviously a challenge. I can try to poke about and see if the exposed-pin CM119 is viable, if someone familiar with the chips or their layout can advice. ?The die-version - good luck? Ideas? ?Existing updates?