I kinda get what your saying Doug. However Kevin had a mood point, pick your wording a little more to your point. Do not connect an individual user node to WIN and WAN at the same time for multiple reasons. First is WIN and WAN have a verbal agreement to not connect the 2 system together unless done so by a COP for emergency reasons. Secondly most residential nodes bandwidth will not handle the amount of traffic. And last but not least the key part is educate your users. Post it on your website your do and don'ts. WAN is and always will be an open system. We have helped a lot of people inside and outside the country setting up there nodes. All-star I'm my opinion is the best thing since sliced bread. When I first got into all-star it would allow IRLP along with echolink. That is not the case anymore. However I know there are nodes out there that can do those and more connections, although frowned upon. I always thought of the HAM community as friendly and helpful, but with strings like this happening not much help. I hope we can all get past this horrible use of adjectives and get back to the goal at hand. BETTERING THE AMATEUR WORLD. Everyone have a WAN-tastic day. And stay warm. -10 in north west PA this morning. AB3AA WANRS TECH SUPPORT On Feb 15, 2015 12:00 PM, <app_rpt-users-request@ohnosec.org> wrote: Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to app_rpt-users-request@ohnosec.org You can reach the person managing the list at app_rpt-users-owner@ohnosec.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wide area traffic tradeoff (Kevin Custer) 2. Repeater Randomly Keys Up (David Dean K0PWO) 3. Online Archive (Steve Zingman) 4. Bizarre Issue (Steve Agee) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:00:15 -0500 From: Kevin Custer <kuggie@kuggie.com> To: Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com>, "app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Wide area traffic tradeoff Message-ID: <54DFA94F.1050701@kuggie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" On 2/14/2015 3:37 AM, Doug Crompton wrote:
Here's the problem. You don't comprehend what I write and you have a hard-on for whatever I say.
Some people like pileups, the WAN system is an example. For day to day use I am not sure what "wide area" buys you. Educate you users to NOT connect the local hub to the WAN system or any other large network. Kevin, Don't be so defensive! I did not say there was a problem with the WAN, Just don't pollute the quieter smaller hubs with that. You are a fool and you just like to argue with me. Others understand what I am saying, obviously you don't!
It's coming through loud and clear. I comprehend everything you say. I understand you don't like my system. You think I shouldn't defend myself or my network after you go off jamming your opinions down everyone's throat. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't make it bad or wrong. This is no different than your view of the Raspberry PI. If a solution doesn't come from you - it's no good. Here's a clue. Go back to your simplex world and leave us alone. I could care less if you like the WAN system, but next time be smart enough to keep your opinions to yourself. And if you do make a sideways comments about another network, be ready, because most of us won't be pushed around by you and your spineless - thoughtless outbursts. Kevin Custer