Hopefully this will change the subject at hand... I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more. I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration. Corey N3FE
Good question. I was wondering about this also. And if not what would be needed aside buying a rtcm Envoyé de mon iPad Le 19 Apr 2013 à 21:46, "Corey Dean" <n3fe@repeater.net> a écrit :
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf -- Tim :wq On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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I should add that Limey Linux works fine too. Same configuration changes as ACID. -- Tim :wq On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Tim Sawyer <tim.sawyer@me.com> wrote:
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf. Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf -- Tim :wq On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu. The one line in rpt.conf that changes is: rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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Ok but that did not answer the question. What is an rtcm made of and what is neede to make one. I know micro-node make some great device. But I like to do stuff myself. For I am a cheap bastard ( that why I have 3 URI at home ) ... Envoyé de mon iPad Le 20 Apr 2013 à 10:21, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> a écrit :
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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See the micro-node.com site or allstarlink.org under projects. You can build your own as it's all open source. There is a complete parts list on the allstalink site. If anyone is interested I have 3 kits that were never completed. Contact me off list if interested. -- Tim :wq On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:01 AM, pete M <petem001@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ok but that did not answer the question. What is an rtcm made of and what is neede to make one.
I know micro-node make some great device. But I like to do stuff myself. For I am a cheap bastard ( that why I have 3 URI at home ) ...
Envoyé de mon iPad
Le 20 Apr 2013 à 10:21, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> a écrit :
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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I think you are missing what i am getting at. He will NOT be using rtcm at all. That is why I ask about setting up a computer running acid as the receive site. I need to know what to configure on the pc since we aren't using an rtcm. I doubt the pc will know what the server ants without configuring something on it. Corey N3FE On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> wrote:
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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No one has done that on ACID or Limey Linux that I know of. The Xipar folks have something called the simple voter. See http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter -- Tim :wq On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I think you are missing what i am getting at. He will NOT be using rtcm at all. That is why I ask about setting up a computer running acid as the receive site. I need to know what to configure on the pc since we aren't using an rtcm. I doubt the pc will know what the server ants without configuring something on it.
Corey N3FE
On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> wrote:
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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Yes I use that voter. Just trying to help a friend . Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:49 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> wrote:
No one has done that on ACID or Limey Linux that I know of. The Xipar folks have something called the simple voter. See http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I think you are missing what i am getting at. He will NOT be using rtcm at all. That is why I ask about setting up a computer running acid as the receive site. I need to know what to configure on the pc since we aren't using an rtcm. I doubt the pc will know what the server ants without configuring something on it.
Corey N3FE
On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> wrote:
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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For ACID to do voting you NEED at least 2 RTCMs and 2 GPS receivers and one computer running ACID. The RTCMs send RX audio RSSI and GPS timing data back to computer which compares the RSSI levels and picks the best one and sends it to the transmitter. -----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Corey Dean Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:30 AM To: Tim Sawyer Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question I think you are missing what i am getting at. He will NOT be using rtcm at all. That is why I ask about setting up a computer running acid as the receive site. I need to know what to configure on the pc since we aren't using an rtcm. I doubt the pc will know what the server ants without configuring something on it. Corey N3FE On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> wrote:
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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OK, I have been trying to follow this thread for a bit now. The documentation is good. But the question still remains... 1. Can you use ACID or XIPAR (assuming current builds) to do voting withoutusing an RTCM? 2. IF you can, What are the settings required to do this? A. on the RX only site. B. on the TX Site. 3. Can the TX site be used as a RX site as well? 1 URI or modded cm108 fob or is 2 required ? 4. Is GPS absolutely necessary, can we use network timing in place of GPS? Has anyone done this set up yet? RTCMs are our of our price range right now. -- Thanks in Advance Bob Brown, WØNQX Kansas City Metro Area Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Scott Weis <kb2ear@kb2ear.net> wrote:
For ACID to do voting you NEED at least 2 RTCMs and 2 GPS receivers and one computer running ACID. The RTCMs send RX audio RSSI and GPS timing data back to computer which compares the RSSI levels and picks the best one and sends it to the transmitter.
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Corey Dean Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:30 AM To: Tim Sawyer Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
I think you are missing what i am getting at. He will NOT be using rtcm at all. That is why I ask about setting up a computer running acid as the receive site. I need to know what to configure on the pc since we aren't using an rtcm. I doubt the pc will know what the server ants without configuring something on it.
Corey N3FE
On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> wrote:
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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1. Can you use ACID or XIPAR (assuming current builds) to do voting without using an RTCM? ACID/Limey Can't XIPAR Can 2. IF you can, What are the settings required to do this? A. on the RX only site. B. on the TX Site. it's well documented http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter http://www.allstarnode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33 3. Can the TX site be used as a RX site as well? 1 URI or modded cm108 fob or is 2 required ? Yes with an RTCM 4. Is GPS absolutely necessary, can we use network timing in place of GPS? Yes GPS is absolutely necessary Has anyone done this set up yet? Several have, it works (With RTCM's) RTCMs are our of our price range right now. The only other option is the simple voter which is included in the xipar package not acid. 73 de K0JSC On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Bob Brown - WØNQX <bbrown@byrg.net> wrote:
OK,
I have been trying to follow this thread for a bit now.
The documentation is good. But the question still remains...
1. Can you use ACID or XIPAR (assuming current builds) to do votingwithoutusing an RTCM?
2. IF you can, What are the settings required to do this? A. on the RX only site. B. on the TX Site.
3. Can the TX site be used as a RX site as well? 1 URI or modded cm108 fob or is 2 required ?
4. Is GPS absolutely necessary, can we use network timing in place of GPS?
Has anyone done this set up yet?
RTCMs are our of our price range right now.
-- Thanks in Advance
Bob Brown, WØNQX
Kansas City Metro Area
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Scott Weis <kb2ear@kb2ear.net> wrote:
For ACID to do voting you NEED at least 2 RTCMs and 2 GPS receivers and one computer running ACID. The RTCMs send RX audio RSSI and GPS timing data back to computer which compares the RSSI levels and picks the best one and sends it to the transmitter.
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Corey Dean Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:30 AM To: Tim Sawyer Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
I think you are missing what i am getting at. He will NOT be using rtcm at all. That is why I ask about setting up a computer running acid as the receive site. I need to know what to configure on the pc since we aren't using an rtcm. I doubt the pc will know what the server ants without configuring something on it.
Corey N3FE
On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com> wrote:
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bob Brown - WØNQX Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:10 AM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question OK, I have been trying to follow this thread for a bit now. The documentation is good. But the question still remains... 1. Can you use ACID or XIPAR (assuming current builds) to do voting without using an RTCM? You can using Xiapr. That is what I am currently using. 2. IF you can, What are the settings required to do this? A. on the RX only site. B. on the TX Site. http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter 3. Can the TX site be used as a RX site as well? 1 URI or modded cm108 fob or is 2 required ? Only 1 is needed. Here is the rpt.conf file settings for the repeater side votertype=1 ; 0=default, no voting, 1=voter repeater, 2=voter receiver votermode=2 ; 0=default, no voting, 1=voter one-shot, 2=voter continuous votermargin=50 ; 10=default sets signal margin to vote a new winner You also need to define it as a node like this on the server. 5001 = radio@192.168.1.189:4561/5001,NONE,VOTE Here is the repeater and client side urd.conf file. sendvoter=1 ; 0=default, no voter rssi, 1=enable voter rssi 4. Is GPS absolutely necessary, can we use network timing in place of GPS? No gps is required using XIPAR. When it voter you might here a missed or gained syllable depending on which way it votes. It is dependent on internet latency. Using it on something with a ping less than 25 ms it is very hard to detect. I have one that on a different netowork with a 50 -70 ms delay and you can hear it switch but mose users won't even notice. Has anyone done this set up yet? Using it on Zipar since it was implemented. RTCMs are our of our price range right now. That was my issue. Corey N3FE -- Thanks in Advance Bob Brown, WØNQX Kansas City Metro Area Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Scott Weis <kb2ear@kb2ear.net<mailto:kb2ear@kb2ear.net>> wrote: For ACID to do voting you NEED at least 2 RTCMs and 2 GPS receivers and one computer running ACID. The RTCMs send RX audio RSSI and GPS timing data back to computer which compares the RSSI levels and picks the best one and sends it to the transmitter. -----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org> [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Corey Dean Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:30 AM To: Tim Sawyer Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> list Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question I think you are missing what i am getting at. He will NOT be using rtcm at all. That is why I ask about setting up a computer running acid as the receive site. I need to know what to configure on the pc since we aren't using an rtcm. I doubt the pc will know what the server ants without configuring something on it. Corey N3FE On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Tim Sawyer" <tim.sawyer@me.com<mailto:tim.sawyer@me.com>> wrote:
Those changes are on the server. The client (the RTCM) has no config files, all settings are done through a menu.
The one line in rpt.conf that changes is:
rxchannel = Voter/1234 ; Voter node 1234 -- Tim :wq
On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net<mailto:n3fe@repeater.net>> wrote:
I am assuming the changes you mention below are for the client (voter) side of things. Where do I find the server side setup? I will still need to know the one line change in rpt.conf.
Corey N3FE ________________________________________ From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org> [app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org>] On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer [tim.sawyer@me.com<mailto:tim.sawyer@me.com>] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:27 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org<mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Voter Question
Yes, ACID is the distro that is used with RTCM voting. The difference between a URI and a RTCM set up is minimal. Only one line in rpt.conf needs to be changed. One file, voter.conf is added to the ACID config. That's the entire difference. There is an example voter.conf here: http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/180. Complete RTCM documentation is available from the micro-node site here: MailScanner warning: numerical links are often malicious: http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf<http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf>
-- Tim :wq
On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Corey Dean <n3fe@repeater.net<mailto:n3fe@repeater.net>> wrote:
Hopefully this will change the subject at hand...
I was reading about the acid voters and had a question or more.
I currently run the voting in Zipar so I am not familiar with the way the voter works in the ACID distro. I am trying to understand a few thing in ACID to help a friend. I have seen the rtcm that will act as a voting interface as well as the voting card. Can a regular acid install on a computer be used as a voter as well? If so is their any documentation for this? I know a GPS could be connected up to the computer and a radio with true discriminator audio should do the job. I am just curious if the computer with the ACID distro can also be used as a voter with the right configuration.
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