[App_rpt] app_rpt setup and requirements.
Hopefully those on the list can answer a few questions about getting app_rpt setup and what is really required. 1. why is the arib needed and what exactly does it do? 2. Why do I need 2 fxs ports for full duplex operation? my phone is full duplex when plugged into the same port why can't the audio for the radio be? Come to think of it I can buy a little phone with a headset jack for next to nothing and have seperate tx (mike) and rx (speaker) audio. this just takes a 2 to 4 wire hybrid common to most phones. why do I need the arib at all? 3. Why do I need the arib at all? 4. is the rbi-1 really needed? what function does it serve? I've seen mention of using an ft-897 directly without it. How is this done? why hf only for the 897 when the 897 covers hf, 6m, 2m, and 440? 5. what about interfacing other radios used for repeaters such as micor, maxtrack, etc. Thanks, Eric - kg6kqt
Eric, See below for the answers. On Sunday 08 October 2006 19:11, Eric Fort wrote:
Hopefully those on the list can answer a few questions about getting app_rpt setup and what is really required.
1. why is the arib needed and what exactly does it do?
The main task of the ARIB is to separate the audio from the signaling. FXS connections carry audio (AC) and signalling (DC) on the same twisted pair. The signalling and the audio need to be separated when interfacing to a radio.
2. Why do I need 2 fxs ports for full duplex operation? my phone is full duplex when plugged into the same port why can't the audio for the radio be?
Come to think of it I can buy a little phone with a headset jack for next to nothing and have seperate tx (mike) and rx (speaker) audio. this just takes a 2 to 4 wire hybrid common to most phones. why do I need the arib at all?
3. Why do I need the arib at all?
For full-duplex repeater operation 2 FXS ports are an absolute requirement. To see why, keep reading. If you are not running a repeater, onty one FXS port is needed, and a two wire connection can be used. We prefer to set up repeaters instead of half-duplex configurations like Echolink or IRLP. We feel the full duplex repeater configuration gives us more control as we can issue commands while the transmitter is still transmitting, and we don't have to wait for a transmitter to unkey before starting a new transmission. Why the two FXS port requirement for full duplex audio? For full duplex audio (simultaneous receive and transmit) as used with repeaters, no receive audio can be allowed to couple into the transmit audio, without going through audio processing (muting, mixing, etc) first. The hybrid transformers used in phones don't have to be perfect full duplex devices. What I mean by perfect full duplex device, is that no receive audio is discernable in the transmit audio. Phones are not perfect full duplex devices, in fact, some receive audio is purposely introduced in the transmit audio to generate a sidetone. Even the hybrid transformer is still not going to do an acceptable job of rejecting the receive audio on the transmit port, hence the need for a 4-wire connection back to Asterisk using 2FXS ports.
4. is the rbi-1 really needed? what function does it serve? I've seen mention of using an ft-897 directly without it. How is this done? why hf only for the 897 when the 897 covers hf, 6m, 2m, and 440?
The RBI-1 is only required it you want to change the frequency of your radio remotely, and you have the Kenwood mobile radios which are compatible with it.
5. what about interfacing other radios used for repeaters such as micor, maxtrack, etc.
We do it all the time. My repeaters are all Motorola Mitrek, or GE Custom MVP. Other guys use Maxtracs, and Desktracs or other synthesized commerial land mobile radios.
Thanks,
Eric - kg6kqt
see below: On 10/8/06, Steve Rodgers <hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
Eric,
See below for the answers.
On Sunday 08 October 2006 19:11, Eric Fort wrote:
Hopefully those on the list can answer a few questions about getting app_rpt setup and what is really required.
1. why is the arib needed and what exactly does it do?
The main task of the ARIB is to separate the audio from the signaling. FXS connections carry audio (AC) and signalling (DC) on the same twisted pair. The signalling and the audio need to be separated when interfacing to a radio.
2. Why do I need 2 fxs ports for full duplex operation? my phone is
full
duplex when plugged into the same port why can't the audio for the radio be?
Come to think of it I can buy a little phone with a headset jack for next to nothing and have seperate tx (mike) and rx (speaker) audio. this just takes a 2 to 4 wire hybrid common to most phones. why do I need the arib at all?
3. Why do I need the arib at all?
For full-duplex repeater operation 2 FXS ports are an absolute requirement. To see why, keep reading. If you are not running a repeater, onty one FXS port is needed, and a two wire connection can be used.
We prefer to set up repeaters instead of half-duplex configurations like Echolink or IRLP. We feel the full duplex repeater configuration gives us more control as we can issue commands while the transmitter is still transmitting, and we don't have to wait for a transmitter to unkey before starting a new transmission.
agreed, the cactus intertie which I use much of the time is full duplex and it offers many advantages. Why the two FXS port requirement for full duplex audio? For full duplex
audio (simultaneous receive and transmit) as used with repeaters, no receive audio can be allowed to couple into the transmit audio, without going through audio processing (muting, mixing, etc) first. The hybrid transformers used in phones don't have to be perfect full duplex devices. What I mean by perfect full duplex device, is that no receive audio is discernable in the transmit audio. Phones are not perfect full duplex devices, in fact, some receive audio is purposely introduced in the transmit audio to generate a sidetone. Even the hybrid transformer is still not going to do an acceptable job of rejecting the receive audio on the transmit port, hence the need for a 4-wire connection back to Asterisk using 2FXS ports.
thanks for the explaination. too bad there are not 4 wire modules for the DIGIUM cards. what about using an E&M interface/port for radio interfacing (6 wire)?
4. is the rbi-1 really needed? what function does it serve? I've seen mention of using an ft-897 directly without it. How is this done? why hf only for the 897 when the 897 covers hf, 6m, 2m, and 440?
The RBI-1 is only required it you want to change the frequency of your radio remotely, and you have the Kenwood mobile radios which are compatible with it.
does app_rpt speak the cat protocol to a serial port? can an ft897 be used in a frequency agile way, just by plugging it in (to the arib board? if not what would it take to impliment this? where can I find docs about how this setup was made to work for the demo.
5. what about interfacing other radios used for repeaters such as micor, maxtrack, etc.
We do it all the time. My repeaters are all Motorola Mitrek, or GE Custom MVP. Other guys use Maxtracs, and Desktracs or other synthesized commerial land mobile radios.
are docs/diagrams available to show how this is done?
Thanks,
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As far as the CAT protocol goes, the ARIB board talks to the "Packet Data interface", the 6 pin connector (I believe), which has the Tx and Rx audio, PTT and COR. The CAT protocol goes through one of the serial ports on the PC. On the PCI card, we talk to the serial port (CAT port) directly also, all through 1 8 pin cable, (which forks off to 2 connectors one 6 pin and one 8 pin on the back of the Yaesu radio). Yes we fully support CAT in frequency/mode agile mode along as well as the Doug Hall RBI-1 as well as the Kenwood TM-G707. As far as Digium cards supporting E&M goes, I really think there is VERY little need or desire for such things these days. (Actually the FXS also operates as a DPT like a DID trunk, which technially *is* a 2 wire loop-closure E&M Interface).
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see below:
On 10/8/06, Steve Rodgers <hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
Eric,
See below for the answers.
On Sunday 08 October 2006 19:11, Eric Fort wrote:
Hopefully those on the list can answer a few questions about getting app_rpt setup and what is really required.
1. why is the arib needed and what exactly does it do?
The main task of the ARIB is to separate the audio from the signaling. FXS connections carry audio (AC) and signalling (DC) on the same twisted pair. The signalling and the audio need to be separated when interfacing to a radio.
2. Why do I need 2 fxs ports for full duplex operation? my phone is
full
duplex when plugged into the same port why can't the audio for the radio be?
Come to think of it I can buy a little phone with a headset jack for next to nothing and have seperate tx (mike) and rx (speaker) audio. this just takes a 2 to 4 wire hybrid common to most phones. why do I need the arib at all?
3. Why do I need the arib at all?
For full-duplex repeater operation 2 FXS ports are an absolute requirement. To see why, keep reading. If you are not running a repeater, onty one FXS port is needed, and a two wire connection can be used.
We prefer to set up repeaters instead of half-duplex configurations like Echolink or IRLP. We feel the full duplex repeater configuration gives us more control as we can issue commands while the transmitter is still transmitting, and we don't have to wait for a transmitter to unkey before starting a new transmission.
agreed, the cactus intertie which I use much of the time is full duplex and it offers many advantages.
Why the two FXS port requirement for full duplex audio? For full duplex
audio (simultaneous receive and transmit) as used with repeaters, no receive audio can be allowed to couple into the transmit audio, without going through audio processing (muting, mixing, etc) first. The hybrid transformers used in phones don't have to be perfect full duplex devices. What I mean by perfect full duplex device, is that no receive audio is discernable in the transmit audio. Phones are not perfect full duplex devices, in fact, some receive audio is purposely introduced in the transmit audio to generate a sidetone. Even the hybrid transformer is still not going to do an acceptable job of rejecting the receive audio on the transmit port, hence the need for a 4-wire connection back to Asterisk using 2FXS ports.
thanks for the explaination. too bad there are not 4 wire modules for the DIGIUM cards. what about using an E&M interface/port for radio interfacing (6 wire)?
4. is the rbi-1 really needed? what function does it serve? I've seen mention of using an ft-897 directly without it. How is this done? why hf only for the 897 when the 897 covers hf, 6m, 2m, and 440?
The RBI-1 is only required it you want to change the frequency of your radio remotely, and you have the Kenwood mobile radios which are compatible with it.
does app_rpt speak the cat protocol to a serial port? can an ft897 be used in a frequency agile way, just by plugging it in (to the arib board? if not what would it take to impliment this? where can I find docs about how this setup was made to work for the demo.
5. what about interfacing other radios used for repeaters such as micor, maxtrack, etc.
We do it all the time. My repeaters are all Motorola Mitrek, or GE Custom MVP. Other guys use Maxtracs, and Desktracs or other synthesized commerial land mobile radios.
are docs/diagrams available to show how this is done?
Thanks,
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Is a 'Quad PCI card' required for Yaseu CAT control of a 787 or can one of the standard PC serial ports be used? Gary
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net [mailto:app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:07 AM To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net Subject: Re: [App_rpt] app_rpt setup and requirements.
As far as the CAT protocol goes, the ARIB board talks to the "Packet Data interface", the 6 pin connector (I believe), which has the Tx and Rx audio, PTT and COR. The CAT protocol goes through one of the serial ports on the PC. On the PCI card, we talk to the serial port (CAT port) directly also, all through 1 8 pin cable, (which forks off to 2 connectors one 6 pin and one 8 pin on the back of the Yaesu radio).
Yes we fully support CAT in frequency/mode agile mode along as well as the Doug Hall RBI-1 as well as the Kenwood TM-G707.
As far as Digium cards supporting E&M goes, I really think there is VERY little need or desire for such things these days. (Actually the FXS also operates as a DPT like a DID trunk, which technially *is* a 2 wire loop-closure E&M Interface).
As I said, with an ARIB board you would use a PC's serial port for CAT. I am not familiar with a '787', but (I believe) according to Yaesu, CAT should be the same on all radios that support it. I just know it works on the 897 and like radios.
From: "Gary Young" <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> Reply-To: pcfrover@tcomeng.com,Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> To: "'Asterisk Repeater Controler'" <app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> Subject: Re: [App_rpt] app_rpt setup and requirements. Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:03:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists.illiana.net ([207.227.243.140]) by bay0-mc9-f8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:03:49 -0700 Received: (qmail 3395 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:03:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:03:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3385 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:03:44 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net (204.127.200.84)by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:03:44 -0000 Received: from den (c-69-181-173-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[69.181.173.31])by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTPid <2006100916034001400qq9pne>; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:03:44 +0000 X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3660MmjhEvYg2f34OAemlKtU9j2Z7TuGo= Return-Path: <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> Delivered-To: mailman-app_rpt@lists.illiana.net X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 thread-index: AcbrcaBOJrGbAuozSGGWc/wmgygNOwASqXYw X-BeenThere: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt.lists.illiana.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt>,<mailto:app_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.illiana.net/pipermail/app_rpt> List-Post: <mailto:app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> List-Help: <mailto:app_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt>,<mailto:app_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2006 16:03:49.0957 (UTC) FILETIME=[82542750:01C6EBBC]
Is a 'Quad PCI card' required for Yaseu CAT control of a 787 or can one of the standard PC serial ports be used?
Gary
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net [mailto:app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:07 AM To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net Subject: Re: [App_rpt] app_rpt setup and requirements.
As far as the CAT protocol goes, the ARIB board talks to the "Packet Data interface", the 6 pin connector (I believe), which has the Tx and Rx audio, PTT and COR. The CAT protocol goes through one of the serial ports on the PC. On the PCI card, we talk to the serial port (CAT port) directly also, all through 1 8 pin cable, (which forks off to 2 connectors one 6 pin and one 8 pin on the back of the Yaesu radio).
Yes we fully support CAT in frequency/mode agile mode along as well as the Doug Hall RBI-1 as well as the Kenwood TM-G707.
As far as Digium cards supporting E&M goes, I really think there is VERY little need or desire for such things these days. (Actually the FXS also operates as a DPT like a DID trunk, which technially *is* a 2 wire loop-closure E&M Interface).
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Typo on the radio, I meant 897. Is there a rpt.conf definition for which serial port to use? I didn't see one noted. Sorry for all the question, I am just trying to understand all the capabilities of this system. We have two repeaters working and want to add some remote bases. Gary
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net [mailto:app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:30 AM To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net Subject: Re: [App_rpt] app_rpt setup and requirements.
As I said, with an ARIB board you would use a PC's serial port for CAT.
I am not familiar with a '787', but (I believe) according to Yaesu, CAT should be the same on all radios that support it. I just know it works on the 897 and like radios.
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Is a 'Quad PCI card' required for Yaseu CAT control of a 787 or can one of the standard PC serial ports be used?
Gary
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net [mailto:app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:07 AM To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net Subject: Re: [App_rpt] app_rpt setup and requirements.
As far as the CAT protocol goes, the ARIB board talks to the "Packet Data interface", the 6 pin connector (I believe), which has the Tx and Rx audio, PTT and COR. The CAT protocol goes through one of the serial ports on the PC. On the PCI card, we talk to the serial port (CAT port) directly also, all through 1 8 pin cable, (which forks off to 2 connectors one 6 pin and one 8 pin on the back of the Yaesu radio).
Yes we fully support CAT in frequency/mode agile mode along as well as the Doug Hall RBI-1 as well as the Kenwood TM-G707.
As far as Digium cards supporting E&M goes, I really think there is VERY little need or desire for such things these days. (Actually the FXS also operates as a DPT like a DID trunk, which technially *is* a 2 wire loop-closure E&M Interface).
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Is there any support for Digital outputs via the Parallel port or some other device? How are others controlling external I/O devices via Asterisk and app_rpt? Gary
Excellent question. Before I even considered having app_rpt do such things, people were already being very clever. What people do is use the fact that Asterisk is a multi-functional platform (not just a telephone switch) and use some of the meriad of applications and things available to perform all sorts of tasks. They access and control these things using the autopatch feature of app_rpt. All (well, any that apply which are most) of the dialing plan features avaiable in Asterisk are available to the app_rpt autopatch. Because of this rich inherent ability, I never thought it was necessary to do anyting specifically in app_rpt. People have repeaters doing things I never even imagined repeaters doing.
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Is there any support for Digital outputs via the Parallel port or some other device?
How are others controlling external I/O devices via Asterisk and app_rpt?
Gary
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Just thought I would ask before I took the next step which is to investigate this from the phone side of Asterisk. A simple DTMF decoder on a PBX port would certainly work. Gary
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net [mailto:app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:23 AM To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Digital Outputs?
Excellent question. Before I even considered having app_rpt do such things, people were already being very clever. What people do is use the fact that Asterisk is a multi-functional platform (not just a telephone switch) and use some of the meriad of applications and things available to perform all sorts of tasks. They access and control these things using the autopatch feature of app_rpt. All (well, any that apply which are most) of the dialing plan features avaiable in Asterisk are available to the app_rpt autopatch. Because of this rich inherent ability, I never thought it was necessary to do anyting specifically in app_rpt. People have repeaters doing things I never even imagined repeaters doing.
From: "Gary Young" <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> Reply-To: pcfrover@tcomeng.com,Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> To: "'Asterisk Repeater Controler'" <app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> Subject: [App_rpt] Digital Outputs? Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:06:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists.illiana.net ([207.227.243.140]) by bay0-mc4-f2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:06:50 -0700 Received: (qmail 3952 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:06:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:06:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3938 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:06:45 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (63.240.77.82)by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:06:45 -0000 Received: from den (c-69-181-173-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[69.181.173.31])by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTPid <20061009160644012002g97te>; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:06:44 +0000 X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3660MmjhEvYg2f34OAemlKtU9j2Z7TuGo= Return-Path: <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> Delivered-To: mailman-app_rpt@lists.illiana.net X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 thread-index: AcbrcaBOJrGbAuozSGGWc/wmgygNOwASt3Ew X-BeenThere: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt.lists.illiana.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt>,<mailto:a pp_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.illiana.net/pipermail/app_rpt> List-Post: <mailto:app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> List-Help: <mailto:app_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt>,<mailto:a pp_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2006 16:06:51.0059 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE462030:01C6EBBC]
Is there any support for Digital outputs via the Parallel port or some other device?
How are others controlling external I/O devices via Asterisk and app_rpt?
Gary
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agi under asterisk would be the place to look. This allows asterisk to run external programs similar to the way cgi works with a webserver. These programs can do all sorts of things. look here for info: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+AGI http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+agi eric On 10/9/06, Gary Young <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> wrote:
Just thought I would ask before I took the next step which is to investigate this from the phone side of Asterisk.
A simple DTMF decoder on a PBX port would certainly work.
Gary
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net [mailto:app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:23 AM To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Digital Outputs?
Excellent question. Before I even considered having app_rpt do such things, people were already being very clever. What people do is use the fact that Asterisk is a multi-functional platform (not just a telephone switch) and use some of the meriad of applications and things available to perform all sorts of tasks. They access and control these things using the autopatch feature of app_rpt. All (well, any that apply which are most) of the dialing plan features avaiable in Asterisk are available to the app_rpt autopatch. Because of this rich inherent ability, I never thought it was necessary to do anyting specifically in app_rpt. People have repeaters doing things I never even imagined repeaters doing.
From: "Gary Young" <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> Reply-To: pcfrover@tcomeng.com,Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> To: "'Asterisk Repeater Controler'" <app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> Subject: [App_rpt] Digital Outputs? Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:06:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists.illiana.net ([207.227.243.140]) by bay0-mc4-f2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:06:50 -0700 Received: (qmail 3952 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:06:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:06:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3938 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:06:45 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (63.240.77.82)by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:06:45 -0000 Received: from den (c-69-181-173-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[69.181.173.31])by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTPid <20061009160644012002g97te>; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:06:44 +0000 X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3660MmjhEvYg2f34OAemlKtU9j2Z7TuGo= Return-Path: <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> Delivered-To: mailman-app_rpt@lists.illiana.net X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 thread-index: AcbrcaBOJrGbAuozSGGWc/wmgygNOwASt3Ew X-BeenThere: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt.lists.illiana.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt>,<mailto:a pp_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.illiana.net/pipermail/app_rpt> List-Post: <mailto:app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> List-Help: <mailto:app_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt>,<mailto:a pp_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2006 16:06:51.0059 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE462030:01C6EBBC]
Is there any support for Digital outputs via the Parallel port or some other device?
How are others controlling external I/O devices via Asterisk and app_rpt?
Gary
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System works as well for doing things like this: Sally*CLI> show application System Sally*CLI> -= Info about application 'System' =- [Synopsis] Execute a system command [Description] System(command): Executes a command by using system(). If the command fails, the console should report a fallthrough. Result of execution is returned in the SYSTEMSTATUS channel variable: FAILURE Could not execute the specified command SUCCESS Specified command successfully executed Old behaviour: If the command itself executes but is in error, and if there exists a priority n + 101, where 'n' is the priority of the current instance, then the channel will be setup to continue at that priority level. Note that this jump functionality has been deprecated and will only occur if the global priority jumping option is enabled in extensions.conf. Sally*CLI> Quoting Eric Fort <eric.fort@gmail.com>:
agi under asterisk would be the place to look. This allows asterisk to run external programs similar to the way cgi works with a webserver. These programs can do all sorts of things.
look here for info:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+AGI
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+agi
eric
On 10/9/06, Gary Young <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> wrote:
Just thought I would ask before I took the next step which is to investigate this from the phone side of Asterisk.
A simple DTMF decoder on a PBX port would certainly work.
Gary
-----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net [mailto:app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Jim Duuuude Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:23 AM To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Digital Outputs?
Excellent question. Before I even considered having app_rpt do such things, people were already being very clever. What people do is use the fact that Asterisk is a multi-functional platform (not just a telephone switch) and use some of the meriad of applications and things available to perform all sorts of tasks. They access and control these things using the autopatch feature of app_rpt. All (well, any that apply which are most) of the dialing plan features avaiable in Asterisk are available to the app_rpt autopatch. Because of this rich inherent ability, I never thought it was necessary to do anyting specifically in app_rpt. People have repeaters doing things I never even imagined repeaters doing.
From: "Gary Young" <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> Reply-To: pcfrover@tcomeng.com,Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> To: "'Asterisk Repeater Controler'" <app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> Subject: [App_rpt] Digital Outputs? Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:06:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists.illiana.net ([207.227.243.140]) by bay0-mc4-f2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:06:50 -0700 Received: (qmail 3952 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:06:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:06:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3938 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2006 16:06:45 -0000 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (63.240.77.82)by 0 with SMTP; 9 Oct 2006 16:06:45 -0000 Received: from den (c-69-181-173-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[69.181.173.31])by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTPid <20061009160644012002g97te>; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:06:44 +0000 X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3660MmjhEvYg2f34OAemlKtU9j2Z7TuGo= Return-Path: <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> Delivered-To: mailman-app_rpt@lists.illiana.net X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 thread-index: AcbrcaBOJrGbAuozSGGWc/wmgygNOwASt3Ew X-BeenThere: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Asterisk Repeater Controler <app_rpt.lists.illiana.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt>,<mailto:a pp_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.illiana.net/pipermail/app_rpt> List-Post: <mailto:app_rpt@lists.illiana.net> List-Help: <mailto:app_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.illiana.net/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt>,<mailto:a pp_rpt-request@lists.illiana.net?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: app_rpt-bounces@lists.illiana.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2006 16:06:51.0059 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE462030:01C6EBBC]
Is there any support for Digital outputs via the Parallel port or some other device?
How are others controlling external I/O devices via Asterisk and app_rpt?
Gary
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Can some one tell me what the proper config entries are to get a dumb remote working? Should this work? On my system I only can get RX to work from the remote, but no TX out the remote. [1001] rxchannel = Zap/1 functions = functions-remote remote = y [functions-remote] 0=cop,6 ; Phone PTT [nodes] 1001 = radio@remote.remote-address.com/1001,y Thanks, Gary
Gary, Here's a half-duplex remote base checklist taken from a prior [app_rpt] mail list thread: 1. The ARIB card needs to have the 4W/2W switch set to 2W (2 wire). 2. Only one cable should be connected from the channelbank to the ARIB card. This should go from the FXS port to J1 on the ARIB card. 3. There should not be a txchannel defined in the nodes section of rpt.conf. 4. Since you are running as a remote base, you must add a 'y' argument to the end of the node definition, like this: 101 = radio@me.asterisk.net/101,y 5. /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf should have em_txrx for signalling on Zap/x. 6. /etc/zaptel.conf should have channel type for Zap/x set to e&m Sample remote configuration for rpt.conf (taken from my setup): [101] rxchannel = Zap/x ; Rx audio/signalling channel remote = ft897 functions = remote-functions phone_functions = remote-functions ; ; Remote base function table ; [remote-functions] 1=remote,2 ; Set freq. 2=remote,3 ; Set tx PL tone 3=remote,4 ; Set rx PL tone 40=remote,100 ; Rx PL off 41=remote,101 ; Rx PL on 42=remote,102 ; Tx PL off 43=remote,103 ; Tx PL on 44=remote,104 ; Low Power 45=remote,105 ; Medium Power 46=remote,106 ; High Power 711=remote,107 ; Bump -20 714=remote,108 ; Bump -100 717=remote,109 ; Bump -500 713=remote,110 ; Bump +20 716=remote,111 ; Bump +100 719=remote,112 ; Bump +500 721=remote,113 ; Scan - slow 724=remote,114 ; Scan - quick 727=remote,115 ; Scan - fast 723=remote,116 ; Scan + slow 726=remote,117 ; Scan + quick 729=remote,118 ; Scan + fast 79=remote,119 ; Tune 51=remote,5 ; Long status query 52=remote,140 ; Short status query 6=remote,6 ; Set mode 8=remote,99 ; User login 9=cop,6 ; Phone ptt [nodes] 101 = radio@me.asterisk.net/101,y Steve On Thursday 12 October 2006 21:23, Gary Young wrote:
Can some one tell me what the proper config entries are to get a dumb remote working?
Should this work? On my system I only can get RX to work from the remote, but no TX out the remote.
[1001] rxchannel = Zap/1 functions = functions-remote remote = y
[functions-remote]
0=cop,6 ; Phone PTT
[nodes]
1001 = radio@remote.remote-address.com/1001,y
Thanks, Gary
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Thanks! The important items that were missing were the zapata.conf and zaptel.conf settings. Gary
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Rodgers [mailto:hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:53 PM To: pcfrover@tcomeng.com; Asterisk Repeater Controler Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Remote setup help please.
Gary,
Here's a half-duplex remote base checklist taken from a prior [app_rpt] mail list thread:
1. The ARIB card needs to have the 4W/2W switch set to 2W (2 wire).
2. Only one cable should be connected from the channelbank to the ARIB card. This should go from the FXS port to J1 on the ARIB card.
3. There should not be a txchannel defined in the nodes section of rpt.conf.
4. Since you are running as a remote base, you must add a 'y' argument to the end of the node definition, like this: 101 = radio@me.asterisk.net/101,y
5. /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf should have em_txrx for signalling on Zap/x.
6. /etc/zaptel.conf should have channel type for Zap/x set to e&m
Sample remote configuration for rpt.conf (taken from my setup):
[101]
rxchannel = Zap/x ; Rx audio/signalling channel remote = ft897 functions = remote-functions phone_functions = remote-functions
; ; Remote base function table ;
[remote-functions] 1=remote,2 ; Set freq. 2=remote,3 ; Set tx PL tone 3=remote,4 ; Set rx PL tone 40=remote,100 ; Rx PL off 41=remote,101 ; Rx PL on 42=remote,102 ; Tx PL off 43=remote,103 ; Tx PL on 44=remote,104 ; Low Power 45=remote,105 ; Medium Power 46=remote,106 ; High Power 711=remote,107 ; Bump -20 714=remote,108 ; Bump -100 717=remote,109 ; Bump -500 713=remote,110 ; Bump +20 716=remote,111 ; Bump +100 719=remote,112 ; Bump +500 721=remote,113 ; Scan - slow 724=remote,114 ; Scan - quick 727=remote,115 ; Scan - fast 723=remote,116 ; Scan + slow 726=remote,117 ; Scan + quick 729=remote,118 ; Scan + fast 79=remote,119 ; Tune 51=remote,5 ; Long status query 52=remote,140 ; Short status query 6=remote,6 ; Set mode 8=remote,99 ; User login 9=cop,6 ; Phone ptt
[nodes]
101 = radio@me.asterisk.net/101,y
Steve
On Thursday 12 October 2006 21:23, Gary Young wrote:
Can some one tell me what the proper config entries are to get a dumb remote working?
Should this work? On my system I only can get RX to work from the remote, but no TX out the remote.
[1001] rxchannel = Zap/1 functions = functions-remote remote = y
[functions-remote]
0=cop,6 ; Phone PTT
[nodes]
1001 = radio@remote.remote-address.com/1001,y
Thanks, Gary
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Are two FXS Ports required for a Remote Base Simplex Operation or can one FXS port be used? Can a Remote base port ever have control capabilities? Gary
simplex requires 1 fxs port, full duplex requires 2. Remote control of a remote base may be permitted as could system control through a remote base input. it all depends on how you set things to work. a better description is in the paralell thread with the subject "app_rpt setup and requirements. " eric On 10/9/06, Gary Young <pcfrover@tcomeng.com> wrote:
Are two FXS Ports required for a Remote Base Simplex Operation or can one FXS port be used?
Can a Remote base port ever have control capabilities?
Gary
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First of all, analog telephone sets are FAR from full duplex devices (look at one through a sweep generator sometime). A pure 2/4 wire hybrid (a real analog one), even in its best practical (and expensive and heavy with transformers, etc) configuration is WAY far from perfict. Between a telephone set and an FXS interface of todays (poor) quality, the transhybrid loss is not ever expected to be better then 20 db or so, and then only on good days. The bottom line is that being able to do real full duplex (which is ABSOULTELY necessary for a radio system) is just not feasable on a 2 wire interface. So you need a 4 wire one. Most channel banks and other channel termination devices generally only come in FXS and FXO these days (not many 4 wire E&M or SF trunks around anymore), so the idea was to interface to something available and practical. 1 loopstart (for receive) and 1 groundstart (for transmit) FXS interface does the trick really nicely. The ARIB board is there to adjust audio levels and impedances between the 2 FXS interfaces and the receiver and transmitter of repeater RF hardware. Also it takes in typical keying signals (such as COR/PL decode) and outputs PTT to key the transmitter, based upon loop condition of the 2 FXS circuits. A radio system is just not typically able to swallow a telco loop with DC current on it raw. Different radios have different needs for levels, De-emphasis, etc. The ARIB card takes care of all of that for you. The different interface methods (ARIB board, PCI card, etc), are all designed to be a more or less generic interface to 2-way RF hardware. Certainly the Micor, Maxtrac/Radius, Mitrek, etc all are more then capable (and we use all of them ourselves) of being used with any of our interfaces. The Doug Hall RBI-1 is an interface controller (now extinct) that directly interfaces with Kenwood mobile radios, such as the TM-241, TM-331, TM-441, TM-541 (which are also extinct). IT allows the radios to be programmed (their frequency, mode, etc) in real time from a remote-base controller, such as app_rpt. They were a wonderful device in their time. Modernly, we support the Yaesu Radios that have a CAT interface (Which, unfortunately are only the larger mulitband HF-440 radios), such as the FT817/857/897. Also we are just finishing suport for the Kenwood TM-G707 for those that just want a 2m/440 remote for less money. The Yaesu radios are nice (since they cover about everything), but are sometimes not cost effective. And yes, of course, we do support the HF/VHF/UHF on ALL of their bands, including 6m/144/440, even on sideband. Basically our intention is eventually to support all of the affordable radios that have remote control from a PC device possible and accessible. I wish more manufacturers would make this functionality available on the less expensive radios. I hope I have answered all your questions Jim WB6NIL
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Hopefully those on the list can answer a few questions about getting app_rpt setup and what is really required.
1. why is the arib needed and what exactly does it do?
2. Why do I need 2 fxs ports for full duplex operation? my phone is full duplex when plugged into the same port why can't the audio for the radio be? Come to think of it I can buy a little phone with a headset jack for next to nothing and have seperate tx (mike) and rx (speaker) audio. this just takes a 2 to 4 wire hybrid common to most phones. why do I need the arib at all?
3. Why do I need the arib at all?
4. is the rbi-1 really needed? what function does it serve? I've seen mention of using an ft-897 directly without it. How is this done? why hf only for the 897 when the 897 covers hf, 6m, 2m, and 440?
5. what about interfacing other radios used for repeaters such as micor, maxtrack, etc.
Thanks,
Eric - kg6kqt
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