WARNING: Filing an abuse complaint to unsubscribe will result in you being permanently banned from this mailing list
I am issuing a stern warning to those too lazy to go through the proper mechanism to unsubscribe from this list. If you don't visit the app-rpt mailing list and unsubscribe using http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users, and file an abuse complaint with your ISP instead, your email address will be PERMANENTLY BANNED. You will end being unable to subscribe to the list in the future. I've had to explain to our ISP several times why these abuse complaints happen, and the rate of complaints has been increasing over the last several months. Abuse complaints from ISP's are serious business, and could result in the web hosting company canceling our account we get too many of them over a certain amount of time. Moral of the story: If you want to unsubscribe, don't take the low road and file an abuse complaint with your ISP. Take the time to do it correctly by doing a web search for app_rpt mailing list and following the instructions there. Steve WA6ZFT
On 01/19/2014 12:31 PM, Stephen Rodgers wrote:
I am issuing a stern warning to those too lazy to go through the proper mechanism to unsubscribe from this list. If you don't visit the app-rpt mailing list and unsubscribe using http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users, and file an abuse complaint with your ISP instead, your email address will be PERMANENTLY BANNED. You will end being unable to subscribe to the list in the future.
I've had to explain to our ISP several times why these abuse complaints happen, and the rate of complaints has been increasing over the last several months.
Abuse complaints from ISP's are serious business, and could result in the web hosting company canceling our account we get too many of them over a certain amount of time.
Moral of the story: If you want to unsubscribe, don't take the low road and file an abuse complaint with your ISP. Take the time to do it correctly by doing a web search for app_rpt mailing list and following the instructions there.
I'm confused, Steve. Didn't this skillet-heads have to go through the proper mechanism to subscribe to the list? Why isn't it common sense to use the same mechanism to UN-subscribe? Seems I saw an 'unsubscribe' request float out on the list a week (or 3?) ago... Who doesn't know you don't enter list option commands through the list? What really fires my ass up is that these are -supposed- to be knowledgeable, Amateur Radio operators who possess sufficient knowledge in computer networking, and wiring radio connections. There was a UK station that hooked up to our network, yesterday - said "Qsk Qsk Qsk from The U.K. This is call sign)." I rejected my first impulse to say "Q-signals are for CW operators, for short cuts", but WTH does QSK (in this context) mean, and why hasn't he learned of CQ? Or, since we're on FM, just throw your callsign out there? If someone -wants- to talk to you, they will! A pet-peeve (since we're talking about stupid people)... "This is ("call-sign") monitoring". Announcing that you're listening around is Redundant. Just your callsign transmitted on the air is all that's needed. This, as I'm taking a break from re-writing my rpt.conf file to include a new simplex node... perhaps a little frustration on my part (trying to research commands...) and a spark to ignite got me fired up. I'll go crawl back under my rock, now. -Geoff/W5OMR 29655 29656 29657
I agree. This is crazy. At the very least if you forgot you could ask on the list for help. Maybe you should publicly announce who these people are!
What really fires my ass up is that these are -supposed- to be knowledgeable, Amateur Radio operators who possess sufficient knowledge in computer networking, and wiring radio connections.73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Geoff <ars.w5omr@gmail.com> wrote:
A pet-peeve (since we're talking about stupid people)... "This is ("call-sign") monitoring". Announcing that you're listening around is Redundant. Just your callsign transmitted on the air is all that's needed.
I understand where you are coming from, but not necessarily. It of course depends on the "culture" of the system or systems being used, but distinguishing between an ID only and a invitation to talk to you can be very handy. The same can be said about the believed to be redundant "for ID" statement. Especially on a busy net, such as for a race, where net control will act on just hearing your callsign, distinguishing that such a transmission is just to legally identify can make things go much more smoothly and not create extra transmissions. This of course doesn't apply to someone who uses "for ID" in the middle of a conversation between only two stations. Brett KQ9N
On the mailman list I run I put the unsub link in the footer. When an ISP contacts me I simply forward a message that contains the footer and they drop the complaint. Corey N3FE -----Original Message----- From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:51 PM To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] WARNING: Filing an abuse complaint to unsubscribe will result in you being permanently banned from this mailing list On 01/19/2014 12:31 PM, Stephen Rodgers wrote:
I am issuing a stern warning to those too lazy to go through the proper mechanism to unsubscribe from this list. If you don't visit the app-rpt mailing list and unsubscribe using http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users, and file an abuse complaint with your ISP instead, your email address will be PERMANENTLY BANNED. You will end being unable to subscribe to the list in the future.
I've had to explain to our ISP several times why these abuse complaints happen, and the rate of complaints has been increasing over the last several months.
Abuse complaints from ISP's are serious business, and could result in the web hosting company canceling our account we get too many of them over a certain amount of time.
Moral of the story: If you want to unsubscribe, don't take the low road and file an abuse complaint with your ISP. Take the time to do it correctly by doing a web search for app_rpt mailing list and following the instructions there.
I'm confused, Steve. Didn't this skillet-heads have to go through the proper mechanism to subscribe to the list? Why isn't it common sense to use the same mechanism to UN-subscribe? Seems I saw an 'unsubscribe' request float out on the list a week (or 3?) ago... Who doesn't know you don't enter list option commands through the list? What really fires my ass up is that these are -supposed- to be knowledgeable, Amateur Radio operators who possess sufficient knowledge in computer networking, and wiring radio connections. There was a UK station that hooked up to our network, yesterday - said "Qsk Qsk Qsk from The U.K. This is call sign)." I rejected my first impulse to say "Q-signals are for CW operators, for short cuts", but WTH does QSK (in this context) mean, and why hasn't he learned of CQ? Or, since we're on FM, just throw your callsign out there? If someone -wants- to talk to you, they will! A pet-peeve (since we're talking about stupid people)... "This is ("call-sign") monitoring". Announcing that you're listening around is Redundant. Just your callsign transmitted on the air is all that's needed. This, as I'm taking a break from re-writing my rpt.conf file to include a new simplex node... perhaps a little frustration on my part (trying to research commands...) and a spark to ignite got me fired up. I'll go crawl back under my rock, now. -Geoff/W5OMR 29655 29656 29657 _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
Hi, The list serve software inserts a footer into each message thread. Can you edit that footer to include a link "Click here to unsubscribe from the App_rpt-users mailing list. It will stop these messages from being sent to you". Kevin W8KHW On Jan 19, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Stephen Rodgers <hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
I am issuing a stern warning to those too lazy to go through the proper mechanism to unsubscribe from this list. If you don't visit the app-rpt mailing list and unsubscribe using http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users, and file an abuse complaint with your ISP instead, your email address will be PERMANENTLY BANNED. You will end being unable to subscribe to the list in the future.
I've had to explain to our ISP several times why these abuse complaints happen, and the rate of complaints has been increasing over the last several months.
Abuse complaints from ISP's are serious business, and could result in the web hosting company canceling our account we get too many of them over a certain amount of time.
Moral of the story: If you want to unsubscribe, don't take the low road and file an abuse complaint with your ISP. Take the time to do it correctly by doing a web search for app_rpt mailing list and following the instructions there.
Steve WA6ZFT
_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
On 01/19/2014 12:40 PM, Kevin Walsh wrote:
Hi,
The list serve software inserts a footer into each message thread. Can you edit that footer to include a link "Click here to unsubscribe from the App_rpt-users mailing list. It will stop these messages from being sent to you".
Kevin W8KHW
On Jan 19, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Stephen Rodgers <hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
I am issuing a stern warning to those too lazy to go through the proper mechanism to unsubscribe from this list. If you don't visit the app-rpt mailing list and unsubscribe using http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users, and file an abuse complaint with your ISP instead, your email address will be PERMANENTLY BANNED. You will end being unable to subscribe to the list in the future.
I've had to explain to our ISP several times why these abuse complaints happen, and the rate of complaints has been increasing over the last several months.
Abuse complaints from ISP's are serious business, and could result in the web hosting company canceling our account we get too many of them over a certain amount of time.
Moral of the story: If you want to unsubscribe, don't take the low road and file an abuse complaint with your ISP. Take the time to do it correctly by doing a web search for app_rpt mailing list and following the instructions there.
Steve WA6ZFT
_______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
Done. Thanks for the tip. Steve WA6ZFT
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