[App_rpt-users] How to turn on AllStar ID Requirements

[Bill South]

By beaconing I simply meant a station ID at some given interval even if no traffic has come thru; symantics I guess.  Beacon IDs have been done for decades on packet, so I can't imagine it would be illegal to ID your Asterisk station (simplex node or repeater) at given intervals even if there has been no traffic on it.  Lot of analog repeaters do interval IDs.

--- On Fri, 3/29/13, Jim W7RY <w7ry at centurytel.net> wrote:


From: Jim W7RY <w7ry at centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] How to turn on AllStar ID Requirements
To: n0pco at alertradio.net
Cc: app_rpt-users at ohnosec.org
Date: Friday, March 29, 2013, 6:31 PM






And what you have cut and pasted below is a station operating as a beacon station. Not a repeater station sending “CW (modulated interrupted tone) or voice” by frequency modulation (FM).  
 
 
Beacons are used for propagation determination on 10, 6 and 2 meters. Although I have never heard a 2 meter beacon station. Have you ever heard a beacon station on 10 or 6 meters? When 10 meters has propagation, I can hear 100s of them.
 
A beacon station transmits A1 (CW). Not F3 (FM) or CW by modulated FM.
 
73
Jim W7RY
 


 

From: ALERTradio ERC | N0PCO 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:02 AM
To: Jim W7RY 
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] How to turn on AllStar ID Requirements
 
On 03/29/2013 09:57 AM, Jim W7RY wrote: 
Please point me to the part 97 rules that state beaconing is illegal. 

73 
Jim W7RY 



§ 97.203 Beacon station.
(a) Any amateur station licensed to a holder of a Technician, General, Advanced or Amateur Extra Class operator license may be a
beacon. A holder of a Technician, General, Advanced or Amateur Extra Class operator license may be the control operator of a
beacon, subject to the privileges of the class of operator license held.
(b) A beacon must not concurrently transmit on more than 1 channel in the same amateur service frequency band, from the same
station location.
(c) The transmitter power of a beacon must not exceed 100 W.
(d) A beacon may be automatically controlled while it is transmitting on the 28.20–28.30 MHz, 50.06–50.08 MHz, 144.275–144.300
MHz, 222.05–222.06 MHz or 432.300–432.400 MHz segments, or on the 33 cm and shorter wavelength bands.

Another one of those yes but no situation courtesy of the FCC.   Since the  beacon is automatically controlled announcing the availability of the repeater / link and in most cases the repeater / link is not operating on a frequency within the groups listed under 97.203(d)  the beacon would not be legal.

97.111(b) would be a good place to check regarding one-way communications


(b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere in this part, an amateur station may transmit the following
types of one-way communications:
(1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;
(2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way communications with other stations;
(3) Telecommand;
(4) Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;
(5) Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving proficiency in, the international Morse code; and
(6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins.
(7) Transmissions of telemetry.
A voice announcement providing information about the repeater (callsign, PL tone, etc.) would fit as permissible  one-way communications.  That some would still call a "beacon."  Then going back to 97.203(d) if the same were to be done with CW it would not be permissible unless there was already traffic on the repeater then it would just be a plain old identification.



They like to make the rules complicated so they can make more money off of people when Major Whoops shows up.


Have a great day.

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