Icom FR 5000 repeater - URI - Alllstarlink node
Hi My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done this setup would appreciate the help. I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not been able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.) My current pin out is like this: FR 5000 Repeater DML URI 7 GND =================> 20 GND 8 MOD IN =================> 22 TX AUDIO 9 DISC OUT ================> 21 RX AUDIO 14 GND =================> 19 GND 19 PTT =================> 1 PTT 22 AF OUT =================> 8 COR DET (?) *** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 repeater; I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else. FR6000 RTCM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell Programming FR6000. Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT 73 David
David, First I will say I am not familiar with either device you are using, So take all of this with a grain of salt. I doubt you can take AF OUT and make a COR detect from it without extra hardware as a VOX circuit etc. To me, from your connection diagram, It looks like you need to do one of a few things. If you can get a valid PL from the radio and use that for your COR line. (use hard PL for COR) OR Use PL (as detected in apt_rpt) for COR - 'carrierfrom=dsp' Someone is likely to have a better answer but those are my thoughts. Perhaps share a link to the uri makers site for your device for details on that I could take a better look. ...mike,kb8jnm On 12/8/2018 5:50 AM, Lardizabal David D. wrote:
Hi
My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done this setup would appreciate the help.
I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not been able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.)
My current pin out is like this:
FR 5000 RepeaterDML URI
7GND =================> 20GND 8MOD IN =================> 22TX AUDIO 9DISC OUT ================> 21RX AUDIO 14GND =================> 19GND 19PTT=================> 1PTT 22AF OUT =================> 8COR DET (?)
*** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 repeater;
I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else.
FR6000 RTCM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell
Programming FR6000. Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT
73
David
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All connections good except for the red one in question. Change 22 to pin 21 on the FR 5000 and program the I/O pin 21 as an output. Then assign function "Analog audible" . set logic to LOW. This will give you an analog COR that is active low when the receiver is active-should you require it. Program I/O pin 19 to an input and select "EPTT" as its function and set the logic to LOW. This will make this pin an external ptt. In you uri set up set the following: [usb1999] hdwtype=0 rxboost=1 txboost=1 rxctcssrelax=1 txctcssdefault=103.5 rxctcssfreqs=103.5 txctcssfreqs=103.5 ;rxctcssoverride=0 carrierfrom=dsp ctcssfrom=dsp rxdemod=flat txprelim=no txlimonly=yes txtoctype=phase txmixa=voice txmixb=no invertptt=0 duplex=1 rxondelay=0 rxnoisefiltype=0 eeprom=0 plfilter=yes This will set you up using dsp for squelch detection and dsp for rx tone detection. This setup requires the Icom to be programmed to transmit the ctcss tone (if desired). the URI will only send Voice to the Icom. Calibrate your RXnoise, RXvoice and RXtone. Then set TX Voice. Save your settings. If your squelch is open type this at the prompt: repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch Current Signal Strength is 681 Current Squelch setting is 500 if your squelch setting is below your signal strength, set the squelch to something about 25 points above the current signal strength. repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch 700 press enter. Save settings. This set up will require a ctcss tone of 103.5 Hz to access the receive. Also, if you intend to use the allstar node to repeat then set the channel in the repeater to "duplex" . This is to ensure the allstar node is repeating and not the Icom. Hope this helps. Cheers! Jon VA3RQ On 12/8/2018 5:50 AM, Lardizabal David D. wrote:
Hi
My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done this setup would appreciate the help.
I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not been able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.)
My current pin out is like this:
FR 5000 RepeaterDML URI
7GND =================> 20GND 8MOD IN =================> 22TX AUDIO 9DISC OUT ================> 21RX AUDIO 14GND =================> 19GND 19PTT=================> 1PTT 22AF OUT =================> 8COR DET (?)
*** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 repeater;
I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else.
FR6000 RTCM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell
Programming FR6000. Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT
73
David
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Thanks Jon, Will experiment with your instructions, to see how it works. Would there be any difference if I use simple usb rather than radio usb? 73, David HQ2DDL
On Dec 8, 2018, at 16:40, REDBUTTON_CTRL <jrorke@cogeco.ca> wrote:
All connections good except for the red one in question.
Change 22 to pin 21 on the FR 5000 and program the I/O pin 21 as an output. Then assign function "Analog audible" . set logic to LOW.
This will give you an analog COR that is active low when the receiver is active-should you require it.
Program I/O pin 19 to an input and select "EPTT" as its function and set the logic to LOW.
This will make this pin an external ptt.
In you uri set up set the following:
[usb1999]
hdwtype=0 rxboost=1 txboost=1 rxctcssrelax=1 txctcssdefault=103.5 rxctcssfreqs=103.5 txctcssfreqs=103.5 ;rxctcssoverride=0 carrierfrom=dsp ctcssfrom=dsp rxdemod=flat txprelim=no txlimonly=yes txtoctype=phase txmixa=voice txmixb=no invertptt=0 duplex=1 rxondelay=0 rxnoisefiltype=0 eeprom=0 plfilter=yes
This will set you up using dsp for squelch detection and dsp for rx tone detection.
This setup requires the Icom to be programmed to transmit the ctcss tone (if desired). the URI will only send Voice to the Icom.
Calibrate your RXnoise, RXvoice and RXtone. Then set TX Voice.
Save your settings.
If your squelch is open type this at the prompt:
repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch Current Signal Strength is 681 Current Squelch setting is 500
if your squelch setting is below your signal strength, set the squelch to something about 25 points above the current signal strength.
repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch 700 press enter.
Save settings.
This set up will require a ctcss tone of 103.5 Hz to access the receive.
Also, if you intend to use the allstar node to repeat then set the channel in the repeater to "duplex" . This is to ensure the allstar node is repeating and not the Icom.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
Jon VA3RQ
On 12/8/2018 5:50 AM, Lardizabal David D. wrote:
Hi
My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done this setup would appreciate the help.
I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not been able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.)
My current pin out is like this:
FR 5000 Repeater DML URI
7 GND =================> 20 GND 8 MOD IN =================> 22 TX AUDIO 9 DISC OUT ================> 21 RX AUDIO 14 GND =================> 19 GND 19 PTT =================> 1 PTT 22 AF OUT =================> 8 COR DET (?)
*** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 repeater;
I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else.
FR6000 RTCM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell
Programming FR6000. Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT
73
David
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In that case set carrerfrom = usbinvert and CTCSSfrom = no That would use the hard COR from the repeater. My set doesnt use the hardware cor but uses dsp to decode its own squelch from the discriminator. On 12/8/2018 7:02 PM, Lardizabal David D. wrote:
Thanks Jon,
Will experiment with your instructions, to see how it works.
Would there be any difference if I use simple usb rather than radio usb?
73,
David HQ2DDL
On Dec 8, 2018, at 16:40, REDBUTTON_CTRL <jrorke@cogeco.ca <mailto:jrorke@cogeco.ca>> wrote:
All connections good except for the red one in question.
Change 22 to pin 21 on the FR 5000 and program the I/O pin 21 as an output. Then assign function "Analog audible" . set logic to LOW.
This will give you an analog COR that is active low when the receiver is active-should you require it.
Program I/O pin 19 to an input and select "EPTT" as its function and set the logic to LOW.
This will make this pin an external ptt.
In you uri set up set the following:
[usb1999]
hdwtype=0 rxboost=1 txboost=1 rxctcssrelax=1 txctcssdefault=103.5 rxctcssfreqs=103.5 txctcssfreqs=103.5 ;rxctcssoverride=0 carrierfrom=dsp ctcssfrom=dsp rxdemod=flat txprelim=no txlimonly=yes txtoctype=phase txmixa=voice txmixb=no invertptt=0 duplex=1 rxondelay=0 rxnoisefiltype=0 eeprom=0 plfilter=yes
This will set you up using dsp for squelch detection and dsp for rx tone detection.
This setup requires the Icom to be programmed to transmit the ctcss tone (if desired). the URI will only send Voice to the Icom.
Calibrate your RXnoise, RXvoice and RXtone. Then set TX Voice.
Save your settings.
If your squelch is open type this at the prompt:
repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch Current Signal Strength is 681 Current Squelch setting is 500
if your squelch setting is below your signal strength, set the squelch to something about 25 points above the current signal strength.
repeater*CLI> radio tune rxsquelch 700 press enter.
Save settings.
This set up will require a ctcss tone of 103.5 Hz to access the receive.
Also, if you intend to use the allstar node to repeat then set the channel in the repeater to "duplex" . This is to ensure the allstar node is repeating and not the Icom.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
Jon VA3RQ
On 12/8/2018 5:50 AM, Lardizabal David D. wrote:
Hi
My name is David Lardizabal HQ2DDL. I am trying to install and AllstarLink node with a repeater Icom FR 5000 and I am trying to figure out the pinout / setting on repeater. If anyone has done this setup would appreciate the help.
I have all ready have done some testing but I am getting a lot of noice, like the squelch is open and transmitting to connected node, ( I am able to connect to other nodes via line command, I have not been able to get the DTMF tones to work to connect/disconnect to nodes.)
My current pin out is like this:
FR 5000 RepeaterDML URI
7GND =================> 20GND 8MOD IN =================> 22TX AUDIO 9DISC OUT ================> 21RX AUDIO 14GND =================> 19GND 19PTT=================> 1PTT 22AF OUT =================> 8COR DET (?)
*** as a Note: I found out in a pin out for RTCM with an ICOM FR6000 repeater;
I recently connected a Micro-Node RTCM to an ICOM FR6000 UHF repeater. The FR5000/6000 has a DB25 auxiliary connector on the rear. Here is the sable pin-out I used. Maybe this helps someone else.
FR6000 RTCM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Pin 11 - 12VDC Out ------------------ Pin 1 +V In Pin 8 - MOD IN ------------------------- Pin 2 TX Audio Pin 9 Discriminator ------------------- Pin 3 RX Audio Pin 21 Analog Audible Out -------- Pin 4 CTCSS In Pin 14 GND------------------------------ Pin 5 GND Pin 19 EPTT ---------------------------- Pin 7 PTT DB25 Shell --- soldered to braid---DB9 Shell
Programming FR6000. Configured for CTCSS on Receive, no CTCSS on transmit. Program Pin 21 I/O for Audible Out which is a signal indication when the receiver is unmuted by squelch/tone. Program Pin 19 I/O for EPTT - External PTT
73
David
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