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Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
by Doug Ferrell 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

On Mon Oct 3 13:29 , ad4c <ad4c(a)comcast.net> sent: >Please, I do not see the unsubscribe link at the end of these emails, only see three links that take me to a site asking for a password, why don't you type here that link, still reveiving dozen of emails again again,this now for me its very upseting and don't want to be part of a war against the FRC. >HectorAD4C Found it in the email header: <mailto:frc-info-request@lists.keekles.org?subject=unsubscribe> ...DOUG KD4MOJ

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Re: [FRC] Updated Proxy Form/Membership
by grassa＠earthlink.net 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Please remove me at once from your email list. I tried to do it from the link and it did not work. My inbox is crashing from all the email. Grassa(a)earthlink.net Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> Date: 10/03/2016 11:20 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: [FRC] Updated Proxy Form/Membership A member remade the proxy form to be a bit more legal looking in a docx and pdf format. Please use either form and get them back to me ASAP if you wish to reform the FRC. Word Format: http://bryanfields.net/FRC-info/Proxy%20Form.docx PDF: http://bryanfields.net/FRC-info/Proxy%20Form.pdf It's been brought to my attention the FRC membership website was taken off-line. I can only suspect to keep people from becoming members or renewing. Regardless, if you are not currently a member or there is doubt to your membership status, please send me a proxy anyways. I will pay dues on your behalf at the meeting and we can settle up after the meeting. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
by ad4c 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Please, take me off the list, this morning I have my comcast email inbox on my cell phone, tablet, laptop, PC flooded with dozen of emails that I am not interested to receive or read.In my side I am in good terms with the FRC, every time I have request help, they have responded within a day and filled all my needs. Hector PadronAD4CRepeater trustee and owner of145.230 mixed mode DMR and analogWest Palm beach. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Ken Wolfe <kwolfe(a)co.okaloosa.fl.us> Date: 10/3/16 8:46 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Florida Repeater Council Discussion' <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Take me off of this string email. It’s flooding my email box. Ken Wolfe, MSM, CEM Okaloosa County Public Safety Emergency Management 90 College Blvd E Niceville, FL 32578 Office: 850-651-7150 Please Note: Due to Florida’s very broad records laws, most written communications to or from County employees regariding County business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this written e-mail communication, including your e-mail address, may be subject to public disclosure. From: FRC-Info [mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Fields Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 9:22 PM To: frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: Ray Kassis, N4LEM Dana Rodakis, K4LK (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M Chuck Lavender, W4CLL Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. Establish a development process for new policies from the membership Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.

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Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
by KI4LVH＠aol.com 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Bryan, I am the Repeater Trustee for our Radio Club and we have three (3) active repeaters currently. I managed to get my coordinations submitted (and received, hopefully) on Sept 29. The coordinations included 3 for active repeaters and a fourth coordination to release a coordinated pair, we are no longer using. I have been dealing with the FRC for several years and have found them to be responsive. This year I sent a request to the DBM (Data Base Manager) for the information they had for our repeaters, and received it within two days. I'm happy with that. Normally, I would expect a response for our coordination updates to be received within a week. I'm expecting it to take a bit longer this year since it appears that just about everyone is coordinating on Sept 30. Hopefully, they will spread that out over the next year or two. Ron, Thank you for your comments. I'm aware of your experience and your extensive work with repeaters. All, I'm not happy about the FRC web site being hacked. I've worked with computers (yes, mainframes, too) since 1958, as a programmer, systems programmer, systems analyst, systems manager, etc. Some idiot hacking the database does us all harm. I hope the FRC catches them and has them arrested. They need to pay for the crime. (Yes, I was a computer security specialist for awhile, too). While the FRC may need some reorganization, we should do it within the rules, for valid reasons, and not in a fit of anger. 73, Steve KI4LVH (Extra, with code) In a message dated 10/3/2016 9:11:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com writes: Bryan, I ask have you built and maintained a repeater in Florida??? Not just set on a board in a club. I see nothing in your Ham resume that states this. Being a Network Architect qualifies you for little in repeaters and in electronics. I've worked with the FRC for over 20 years and find they do have problems, but for repeater coordination are one of the best I've seen. 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra Ron Wright, N9EE/R BSEE Micro Computer Concepts 352-683-4476 mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com ____________________________________ From: FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces(a)lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22 PM To: frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: * Publication of the FRC database on a public website * This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. * Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. * All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. * Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! * As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October! * If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. * Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. * Violation of the coordination policy by the directors * Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors * Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information * Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis * Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. * When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. * Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: * Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: * Ray Kassis, N4LEM * Dana Rodakis, K4LK * (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M * Chuck Lavender, W4CLL * Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. * Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. * Establish a development process for new policies from the membership * Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies * De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be acc_essible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. * No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. * Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm_ (http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm) _How to become a member of the Florida Repeater Council_ (http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm) florida-repeaters.org We must make it clear that it is NOT necessary to donate to receive the services of this A.R.R.L.-recognized agency for Florida amateur repeater coordination. I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions. _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
by K2MZ＠aol.com 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Please remove K2MZ Charles H. Harrison from your mailinglist. I am no longer a Fla resident. Any coordinations existant should be deleted C H Harrison In a message dated 10/2/2016 10:23:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Bryan(a)bryanfields.net writes:

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by Bryan Fields 02 Oct '16

02 Oct '16

-- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

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