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Updates after the meeting
by Bryan Fields 10 Nov '16

10 Nov '16

There was some forward progress, and I'll have a longer email coming in the next day. I didn't have time last night or today to write up as I have other personal commitments. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

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Last chance for change 5am EST!
by Bryan Fields 22 Oct '16

22 Oct '16

If you seek change at the Florida Repeater Council, I need you proxy by 5am EST. I will be leaving for the Hamfest at that time, and will be doing a final printout of proxies at that time. We have about 30 hams in proxy for the FRC who want change as to how the bands are planned in Florida. We will get redress of the issues, and your proxy will enable us to move the board forward. Please fill out the attached proxy and send it back, or even send a camera phone picture to 727-409-1194. 73's and wish us luck at the meeting. Lets hope the FRC directors see the light of progress. W9CR -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

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Meeting today 1pm
by Bryan Fields 22 Oct '16

22 Oct '16

The meeting is scheduled at 1pm today, and I'll be around at the hamfest before. If you support change of the status quo at the FRC please come by early around noon as I'll be reviewing and giving a quick overview of the process we are following. Thank you and 73's, -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

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Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
by kg4ugk 21 Oct '16

21 Oct '16

Wasn't able to make it up to Melbourne. Awaiting the news of this weekends meeting. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Bryan Fields <bryan(a)bryanfields.net> Date: 10/12/16 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information Both were removed within minutes of asking as well. Gtg, taking off out of EVV. 73s Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2016, at 08:56, David Krauss <nx4y(a)verizon.net> wrote: it's not hard to unsubscribe. just click the link at the bottom of any of the emails and put your address in where it says unsubscribe, and unsubscribe. not rocket science. Sent from an iPhone 6 On Oct 12, 2016, at 7:33 AM, Frank Pliska <frankpliska(a)comcast.net> wrote: I have also submitted a request to be removed from the FRC email list 3 weeks ago Frank Pliska III N4PAO RF Systems Engineer MOTOROLA FrankPliska(a)Comcast.net On Oct 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Richard J Reuther <rjreuther(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: Please... I beg of you, remove me from this list! Rick Reuther KC2HFL Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:53, Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> wrote: On 10/10/16 5:46 PM, kg4ugk wrote: We all carry ourselves a certain way when broadcasting on air, as we are governed by the FCC and choose our words wisely. All I'm asking is that we conduct ourselves in the same civilized manner we would on air. I always encourage people to voice their viewpoint, in person, on air, or in email. I also say the great thing about radio is if you don't want to listen to some one talk, change the channel. I've had to do this a few times over the years. While we may not all agree with Brian's methods or tactics.. I actually took the time to have a voice call with him and hear his side, as well as have an articulated conversation on some of the practices of the FRC and some other governing bodies. Shawn, I appreciated your call and conversation. As I said, I was not left with many options from the FRC leadership to contact the members via other means. If anyone wants off this list, you can do or ask me. I know we had some people with forwarded addresses and I needed headers to reconcile those. I've removed most within hours of asking. Hacking/Cracking/Unsecured/Breached/Test what ever you want to call it.. according to the ARRL the FRC is the responsible party for coordination in the state of Florida. According to ARRL the FRCs website is http://florida-repeaters.org and according to their site, the information was never publicly released and was obtained by other means. This contradicts the information I've been given regarding how it was obtained. I've been told it was on a public website. I believe Mr. Fletcher is trying to deflect blame onto others. As I am on the fence about being contacted against the FRC, I have been intrigued by this email list, it's put me in contact with some people whom I probably wouldn't have had other means of reaching. The 20 emails from the same person asking to be removed was more of an annoyance than the list itself. It's my hope the signal to noise ratio improves over time, and that seams to be the case. The fact that others are choosing to mirror this private information just disturbs me further. Others are mirroring it and providing access to the listings now that the FRC website has removed them. Further all FRC me _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] What is this lists' purpose
by Dr. Jeff Hagan 15 Oct '16

15 Oct '16

How do I get off this email group? I requested to be removed to no avail. .someone out there please take me Off!!! <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: PAUL LICHTERMAN <ltsradio(a)yahoo.com> </div><div>Date:10/09/2016 5:16 PM (GMT-06:00) </div><div>To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org>,mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com,Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [FRC] What is this lists' purpose </div><div> </div>Hello everyone, Please keep the name calling to a minimum. Thank you in in advance Gerald P. Lichterman KE4ISY Ltsradio(a)yahoo.com Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:59 PM, mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com <mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com> wrote: You got this for a clown stole the FRC's email list. And now this same clown wants to control repeater coordination in Florida. But he is a IT clown and we in real engineering know IT pukes are not very well educated. 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra Ron Wright, N9EE/R BSEE Micro Computer Concepts 352-683-4476 mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com From: FRC-Info <frc-info-bounces(a)lists.keekles.org> on behalf of Kevin Zari <kk4yel(a)gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 5:35 AM To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion Subject: [FRC] What is this lists' purpose Maybe I missed it because I was concentrating on saving my family from Matthew, but how did I get on this list again, and what is it's purpose? I've got one repeater that I am the trustee and coordinator for. The FRC has always been respectful and helpful, and while maybe not always the quickest, I found that they would follow through with what the said they would do. Besides that, a few of their board members have had some major health issues, so I treated them with the respect and patience we as amateur radio operators are known for. 73 de KK4YEL ----- The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence. > On Oct 8, 2016, at 11:08, Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> wrote: > >> On 10/7/16 11:30 PM, Jon Pearl - W4ABC wrote: >> I've got Mysql loaded in my shack computer to manage my logbook and >> you're right... a relational database beats the heck out of hunting and >> picking through a static .pdf file, any day. There are a lot of old >> entries in this file that could be culled but as you say, if this >> database was the product of real-time information, it would speed up the >> search process for amateurs hunting pairs. > > I did just this with FCC data looking for commercial pairs. > This selects frequencies at base stations between 464 and 465 from a central > point, and orders them by furthest to nearest. > > A query such as this could be run via a web interface after clicking "here" on > a map and ranking all frequencies in use in furthest to near from that point. > ie, you click on a point and it tells you the frequencies in use there sorted > by distance. > >> SELECT >> f.frequency_assigned,f.call_sign, f.location_number,f.unique_system_identifier, l.dec_lat, l.dec_long, >> (ROUND( 3956 * acos( cos( radians(lat) ) >> * cos( radians(l.dec_lat) ) >> * cos( radians(l.dec_long) - radians(lon)) + sin(radians(lon)) >> * sin( radians(l.dec_lat))) >> )) AS distance >> FROM `FREQUENCY` f right join LOCATION l on l.location_number = f.location_number and l.unique_system_identifier = f.`unique_system_identifier` WHERE f.frequency_assigned >=464 and f.frequency_assigned <=465 and l.dec_lat is not null >> AND f.frequency_assigned NOT in >> (SELECT distinct f.frequency_assigned >> FROM `FREQUENCY` f right join LOCATION l on l.location_number = f.location_number and l.unique_system_identifier = f.`unique_system_identifier` WHERE f.frequency_assigned >=464 and f.frequency_assigned <=465 and l.dec_lat is not null AND >> ROUND( 3956 * acos( cos( radians(lat) ) >> * cos( radians(l.dec_lat) ) >> * cos( radians(l.dec_long) - radians(lon)) + sin(radians(lat)) >> * sin( radians(l.dec_lat))) >> ) < 15 >> ORDER BY `f`.`frequency_assigned` ASC) >> ORDER BY `f`.`frequency_assigned`, `distance` DESC > > > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net Bryan Fields.net bryanfields.net Welcome to Bryan Fields.net. Are you looking for Microwave Path engineering? - Allow me to assist your company with your RF design needs. Having trouble with Alcatel ... > _______________________________________________ > FRC-Info mailing list > FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org > http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Double Emails
by Doug Ferrell 14 Oct '16

14 Oct '16

I'm getting duplicate emails from this (FRC) list... anyone else? ...DOUG KD4MOJ

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Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
by kg4ugk 12 Oct '16

12 Oct '16

Wow. Stop. Take a breath. This conversation and this list has gotten so far off topic. Constant blame game and now resulting to clever elementary word games and childish name calling. Seriously. Stop. Go outside, look at the sun set. Peek at your antenna array. Think about the hobby in its most fundamental principles. It's a means of communication and one that US as hams don't take for granted. We have fought for our rights to operate the frequencies and band plans allotted to us by the ARRL, and by our license class, regardless if we are a no code tech or a know code extra. I'm a young ham. Not just in age but years on the air. It was the politicalness of clubs that kept me radio silent for many years.. and even today keeps me fearful of using others repeaters and radio systems. It's the duty as an elmer or one who's been on air for longer durations to coach and lead the younger ones into the right ways of ham/radio etiquette. We all carry ourselves a certain way when broadcasting on air, as we are governed by the FCC and choose our words wisely. All I'm asking is that we conduct ourselves in the same civilized manner we would on air. While we may not all agree with Brian's methods or tactics.. I actually took the time to have a voice call with him and hear his side, as well as have an articulated conversation on some of the practices of the FRC and some other governing bodies. Stop. Take another breath. And another one. Hacking/Cracking/Unsecured/Breached/Test what ever you want to call it.. according to the ARRL the FRC is the responsible party for coordination in the state of Florida. According to ARRL the FRCs website is http://florida-repeaters.org and according to their site, the information was never publicly released and was obtained by other means. As I am on the fence about being contacted against the FRC, I have been intrigued by this email list, it's put me in contact with some people whom I probably wouldn't have had other means of reaching. The 20 emails from the same person asking to be removed was more of an annoyance than the list itself. The fact that others are choosing to mirror this private information just disturbs me further. So again.. no matter your views/opinions/skill set/job title, can we please conduct ourselves like the concerning ham operators we once thrived to be? Before responding. Please, take a moment, think, and then respond. Best regards,Shawn CampbellKG4UGK Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: John <k4ag(a)bellsouth.net> Date: 10/10/16 4:08 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information Just telling the truth On 10/8/2016 4:22 PM, hernandeznilo wrote: > Thanks John... > 73 > W4HN _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
by hernandeznilo 10 Oct '16

10 Oct '16

You have always been a good man. Thanks anyways...73 Please pardon my errors as the cell changes some, pardon typos and grammatical errors in advance should they appear. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 5. -------- Original message --------From: John <k4ag(a)bellsouth.net> Date: 10/10/16 4:08 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information Just telling the truth On 10/8/2016 4:22 PM, hernandeznilo wrote: > Thanks John... > 73 > W4HN _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
by hernandeznilo 10 Oct '16

10 Oct '16

Thanks John...73W4HN Please pardon my errors as the cell changes some, pardon typos and grammatical errors in advance should they appear. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 5. -------- Original message --------From: John <k4ag(a)bellsouth.net> Date: 10/8/16 12:15 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information Well I have to state that over the years both Nilo (was District 1 Director) and Dana of the FRC has served me well They were always very responsive to my inquiries and renewals The meeting in Melbourne might shed some light on the issue It would appear easier to fix the wheel rather than invent it John -- John Mc Hugh, K4AG Coordinator for Amateur Radio National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC Home page:- http://www.wx4nhc.org _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] What is this lists' purpose
by Steve Zingman 10 Oct '16

10 Oct '16

Know code and not much else. On Oct 9, 2016 11:24 PM, mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com <mailto:mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: Quantras are no more than a Micor with a synthizer. Look at the MSF5000 spurious emission spec...walks all over a Qutantra. 73, ron, n9ee/r a know code Extra Ron Wright, N9EE/R BSEE Micro Computer Concepts 352-683-4476 mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com <mailto:mccrpt@tampabay.rr.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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