August 2016 - Allstar-Digital - lists.keekles.org

Interconnecting BrandMeister and DMRlink and (HBlink)
by Steve Zingman 29 Aug '16

29 Aug '16

Since the application this list is built to support, I'm cross posting a message from Cort, N0MJS posted to the Yahoo K0USY Group linking software. If you are using DMRlink to run a DMR <---> ASL Gateway or if you are using DMRlink to provide the ability to connect to multiple networks with finite control of the TG / TS routing, Please post the attribution on your web site. Without DMRlink creating the DMR to ASL gateway would have been a LOT more work. As DMRlink and HBlink merge, we will have enhanced connectivity. If BrandMeister ever decides to support DMRlink trunking, so much the better. here's hoping. Cort's post below. Several people have contacted me recently about using DMRlink to connect to BrandMeister and about our “network". Thinking about the questions they’ve been asking, it seemed like a list post is in order. DMRlink’s bridge.py application uses a modified version of IPSC for trunking multiple simultaneous calls on the same timeslot between instances of bridge.py. If you’re running more than one bridge.py, you can stream many, many calls at the same time between them. BrandMeister does not implement this protocol. If you’re interconnecting with BrandMeister, you must NOT specify the IPSC is “TRUNK”, and you can only send one call per timeslot at a time. Also, it’s come up again about joining our “network”. K0USY group has not, is not, and will not build a “network”. We make tools. It’s unfortunate that there are NO OTHER groups in amateur DMR that can see the distinction between “network” and “networking software”. We’re writing software, and giving it away, and impose no rules on how you use it except that attribution must be given. Which is the last thing to touch on. The ONLY price you pay to use DMRlink or HBlink is to provide attribution as we’ve requested in the realm files in the repositories. The number of people who contact this list or one of the developers directly who use our tools is substantial, but when I do a Google search, I see almost nothing. If you’re using DMRlink, HBlink, or know someone who is, you are required to make public attribution – such as listing it as we’ve requested on your Web sties, etc. for your groups, clubs, networks, etc. This is not a joke. If I don’t start seeing proper attribution out there, we’ll be moving DMRlink and HBlink to non-public repositories and not release future developments publicly. -- Cort Buffington H: +1-785-813-1501 M: +1-785-865-7206 -- "Just say no to world domination"

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AMBE audio
by Robert Newberry 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

I've setup a second repeater at another site. With the addition of the second repeater the DMR to ASL audio is slow and very slurred. Coming from ASL to DMR its sounds just fine. The strange twist on all of this is the second repeater DMR<->ASL in both directions clean/clear audio. Is it possible I am asking too much of the DV3000 and I need to have a second DV3000? Other than that both the repeaters play quite well on DMR from what I have observed. I've looked at the debug output and I'm not seeing anything that indicates a problem. Thank you -- N1XBM Apparare Scientor Paratus Communicare Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com

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Re: [Allstar Digital] No audio second repeater
by Robert Newberry 20 Aug '16

20 Aug '16

So in an effort to identify and tackle issues one at a time. I went and grabbed my new repeater and brought it home and peered it to my dmrlink. I figured this was easier so I could my base radio to talk to the remote repeater and watch to see what happens locally. I logged into dmrlink and set the logging to debug and console. I can see I have 3 peers. Two being my repeaters and the other I setup for AMBE audio to Allstar. An example of my problem is this. Traffic from Brandmeister keys up both repeaters and I can respond to the call from each repeater and it successfully passes to Brandmeister. The problem is whichever repeater I use it does not get repeated the opposite repeater. Thank you N1XBM Apparare Scientor Paratus Communicare Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com On Aug 19, 2016 8:33 AM, "Robert Newberry" <N1XBM(a)amsat.org> wrote: Is there anyone here running more than one repeater in their IPSC and using the dv3000 to get analog dmr audio? If so I'dlike to ask you some questions. I've tried editing my configuration files and I am still having issues. I currently have one repeater, with dmrlink and the dv3000 all colocated at one site. I use dmrlink as my master and peer my repeaters to it. I added a second repeater at another site. I've got the repeater peered to and I'm able to use BM and other networks I'm connected too. For some reason I can not get ASL<->DMR to work in any direction from my remote site. Thank you N1XBM Apparare Scientor Paratus Communicare Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com

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No audio second repeater
by Robert Newberry 19 Aug '16

19 Aug '16

Is there anyone here running more than one repeater in their IPSC and using the dv3000 to get analog dmr audio? If so I'dlike to ask you some questions. I've tried editing my configuration files and I am still having issues. I currently have one repeater, with dmrlink and the dv3000 all colocated at one site. I use dmrlink as my master and peer my repeaters to it. I added a second repeater at another site. I've got the repeater peered to and I'm able to use BM and other networks I'm connected too. For some reason I can not get ASL<->DMR to work in any direction from my remote site. Thank you N1XBM Apparare Scientor Paratus Communicare Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com

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Re: [Allstar Digital] Allstar-Digital Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11
by Bryan D. Boyle 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

the FCC already addressed this on June 5, 2014 in its' combined R&O in response to RM-11625 which was filed by the ARRL in 2011 to modify 97.3(c)(5) to allow emission FXE and 97.307(f)(8) to allow emission FXD. No one is loosing their operating privileges, nor have there been any listed NALs entered for amateurs using DMR, DStar, P25, NXDN, Fusion, or any other authorized digital emission in accordance with their privileges that I can find. The final sentence of paragraph 26 of the R&O is the operative phrase. This question was already worked and settled long ago; just for the record, my multimode repeater id's in morse every 9.5 minutes in plain FM @ 18 wpm, 800 cps tone, by the way. -- Bryan Sent from my iPhone 6S...No electrons were harmed in the sending of this message. Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:31:26 -0600 > From: Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff(a)gmail.com> > To: allstar-digital(a)lists.keekles.org > Subject: Re: [Allstar Digital] Allstar-Digital Digest, Vol 11, Issue > 10 > Message-ID: > <CAA_aZLgOAcFpCOoUDbEDvCvxrAhsf=H1MTVoaUqyBUrCjipPGg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It's an automatic transmission without an id. Dstar and fusion include a > call every time. Do what you like though, it's your license not mine.

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Re: [Allstar Digital] Allstar-Digital Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10
by Jeff Carrier 17 Aug '16

17 Aug '16

It's an automatic transmission without an id. Dstar and fusion include a call every time. Do what you like though, it's your license not mine. On Aug 17, 2016 7:08 PM, <allstar-digital-request(a)lists.keekles.org> wrote: > Send Allstar-Digital mailing list submissions to > allstar-digital(a)lists.keekles.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/allstar-digital > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > allstar-digital-request(a)lists.keekles.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > allstar-digital-owner(a)lists.keekles.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Allstar-Digital digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Allstar-Digital Digest, Vol 11, Issue 9 (Jeff Carrier) > 2. Re: Allstar-Digital Digest, Vol 11, Issue 9 (John D. Hays) > 3. Adding second peer (Robert Newberry) > 4. Re: Adding second peer (Robert Newberry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:07:06 -0600 > From: Jeff Carrier <k0jsc.jeff(a)gmail.com> > To: allstar-digital(a)lists.keekles.org > Subject: Re: [Allstar Digital] Allstar-Digital Digest, Vol 11, Issue 9 > Message-ID: > <CAA_aZLhr_qNg0o3RhFyxBAA7MzU2XQ1coskCFq6 > -Dm-03jSQoQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Unfortunately GPS on DMR radios isn't legal per Part 97 as the radio > transmits without an ID. It's something we've always wanted to use but > Part 97 prevents us from doing so legally. > > de K0JSC > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:00 AM, <allstar-digital-request@ > lists.keekles.org > > wrote: > > > Send Allstar-Digital mailing list submissions to > > allstar-digital(a)lists.keekles.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/allstar- > digital > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > allstar-digital-request(a)lists.keekles.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > allstar-digital-owner(a)lists.keekles.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Allstar-Digital digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. GPS (Robert Newberry) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:04:38 -0400 > > From: Robert Newberry <N1XBM(a)amsat.org> > > To: Digital linking using Asterisk and app_rpt > > <allstar-digital(a)lists.keekles.org> > > Subject: [Allstar Digital] GPS > > Message-ID: > > <CAM09xEY9VXv7yprDsAGgpuSZnBNe5bNF_m0b_0GmGvPbBFkHTQ@mail. > > gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > I purchased a Hytera MD652 and I noticed it comes with a GPS antenna. As > > far as I know GPS can not be passed thru to Brandmeister with DMRLINK, I > > honestly can't remember. > > > > Anyone currently doing it or tried to do it? > > > > Maybe this will be something added to HBLINK, I'm not really hung up on > the > > option, mostly surprised I got the antenna, I'll probably just install it > > in case the option comes up. > > > > N1XBM > > Apparare Scientor > > Paratus Communicare > > Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 > > www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com > >

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Adding second peer
by Robert Newberry 17 Aug '16

17 Aug '16

I currently have one repeater peered to dmrlink and the repeater and dmrlink are colocated in the same building and LAN. This works well! I'm trying to add a second repeater which is at another site. I can not get the second repeater connected. I've checked the codeplug and I've made sure both routers have the needed ports open. So my plan is tonight to output the logging to console so see if I can see what is going wrong. My question is as far as I know to add a second repeater I should not have to add anything to dmrlink.cfg can anyone confirm this? Thank you N1XBM Apparare Scientor Paratus Communicare Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com

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Re: [Allstar Digital] Allstar-Digital Digest, Vol 11, Issue 9
by Jeff Carrier 17 Aug '16

17 Aug '16

Unfortunately GPS on DMR radios isn't legal per Part 97 as the radio transmits without an ID. It's something we've always wanted to use but Part 97 prevents us from doing so legally. de K0JSC On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:00 AM, <allstar-digital-request(a)lists.keekles.org > wrote: > Send Allstar-Digital mailing list submissions to > allstar-digital(a)lists.keekles.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/allstar-digital > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > allstar-digital-request(a)lists.keekles.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > allstar-digital-owner(a)lists.keekles.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Allstar-Digital digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. GPS (Robert Newberry) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:04:38 -0400 > From: Robert Newberry <N1XBM(a)amsat.org> > To: Digital linking using Asterisk and app_rpt > <allstar-digital(a)lists.keekles.org> > Subject: [Allstar Digital] GPS > Message-ID: > <CAM09xEY9VXv7yprDsAGgpuSZnBNe5bNF_m0b_0GmGvPbBFkHTQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I purchased a Hytera MD652 and I noticed it comes with a GPS antenna. As > far as I know GPS can not be passed thru to Brandmeister with DMRLINK, I > honestly can't remember. > > Anyone currently doing it or tried to do it? > > Maybe this will be something added to HBLINK, I'm not really hung up on the > option, mostly surprised I got the antenna, I'll probably just install it > in case the option comes up. > > N1XBM > Apparare Scientor > Paratus Communicare > Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 > www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com >

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GPS
by Robert Newberry 16 Aug '16

16 Aug '16

I purchased a Hytera MD652 and I noticed it comes with a GPS antenna. As far as I know GPS can not be passed thru to Brandmeister with DMRLINK, I honestly can't remember. Anyone currently doing it or tried to do it? Maybe this will be something added to HBLINK, I'm not really hung up on the option, mostly surprised I got the antenna, I'll probably just install it in case the option comes up. N1XBM Apparare Scientor Paratus Communicare Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com

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Getting started
by Robert Newberry 04 Aug '16

04 Aug '16

OK with all of the excitement of HBLINK, I got a couple of Motorola UHF repeaters, due, and ZUM that I could put on the test bench. I am going to guess that you guys are using DIAL? So I should install the mmdvm software, the go to https://github.com/n0mjs710/HBlink to install the HBlink software. After that I should be able to configure the repeater to connect to the test master. N1XBM Apparare Scientor Paratus Communicare Allstar Node # 27086, 41540, 41812, 42086, 42658, 42657 www.radioguysrepeaternetwork.com

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