Hello All, I'm struggling to configure my simplex node in a particular way. As of right now I have duplex=0 specified for my node in rpt.conf. My goal is to maintain the functionality of duplex=0, but do want a courtesy tone to transmit ONLY when a remotely connected AllStar node unkeys. I do not want the simplex node to ID or transmit a courtesy tone for local transmissions. Has anyone else configured their node in such a way? If so, would you be willing to share your configuration. I've tried setting duplex=1 in rpt.conf along with the following settings with no luck: ; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=0 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0 Thank you in advance for anyone that is able to help! -- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
You would also need to take out the ID and in the [telemetry] stanza, do the same for "remotetx=" as well. Some of these fields don't like true zero values, so you may cause Asterisk to die. If so, try some non-zero value that is small. N5ZUA On 1/28/2015 1:27 PM, Andrew Sylthe wrote:
Hello All,
I'm struggling to configure my simplex node in a particular way. As of right now I have duplex=0 specified for my node in rpt.conf. My goal is to maintain the functionality of duplex=0, but do want a courtesy tone to transmit ONLY when a remotely connected AllStar node unkeys. I do not want the simplex node to ID or transmit a courtesy tone for local transmissions. Has anyone else configured their node in such a way? If so, would you be willing to share your configuration.
I've tried setting duplex=1 in rpt.conf along with the following settings with no luck:
; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=0 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0
Thank you in advance for anyone that is able to help!
-- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
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Some entries have hard coded defaults where if you leave it out, it will default to something else, so if you want a silent telem, make a telemetry tone that is silent and set it as the tone. I think you'll need to set remotetx in [telemetry] to a silent tone. If you leave it out it will default to some hardcoded tone. I use |t(0,0,10,2048) ; silent tone. This is just a slightly educated guess.. I'm relatively new to this, but did extensive testing of how the telem works as we were trying to do something uncommon as well. Regards, Mike Montalvo, KF7MBK ARA Membership Chair www.w7ara.org On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Steve Agee <n5zua@earthlink.net> wrote:
You would also need to take out the ID and in the [telemetry] stanza, do the same for "remotetx=" as well. Some of these fields don't like true zero values, so you may cause Asterisk to die. If so, try some non-zero value that is small.
N5ZUA
On 1/28/2015 1:27 PM, Andrew Sylthe wrote:
Hello All,
I'm struggling to configure my simplex node in a particular way. As of right now I have duplex=0 specified for my node in rpt.conf. My goal is to maintain the functionality of duplex=0, but do want a courtesy tone to transmit ONLY when a remotely connected AllStar node unkeys. I do not want the simplex node to ID or transmit a courtesy tone for local transmissions. Has anyone else configured their node in such a way? If so, would you be willing to share your configuration.
I've tried setting duplex=1 in rpt.conf along with the following settings with no luck:
; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=0 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0
Thank you in advance for anyone that is able to help!
-- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
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On 01/28/2015 02:04 PM, Mike M wrote:
Some entries have hard coded defaults where if you leave it out, it will default to something else, so if you want a silent telem, make a telemetry tone that is silent and set it as the tone.
I think you'll need to set remotetx in [telemetry] to a silent tone. If you leave it out it will default to some hardcoded tone. I use
|t(0,0,10,2048) ; silent tone.
Uhm... not quite, Mike... A tone group is a set of 4 comma separated integers formatted as follows: |(frequency1,frequency2,duration,amplitude)| frequency1 and frequency2 must be a number between 0 and 3000. These specify the tone frequency in Hz. duration is the tone on time in Milliseconds. amplitude is the relative volume level of the tone or tones. This can be from 0 to 8192. A tone group consisting of zeroes for amplitude and frequency will be sent as a silent period. A single frequency tone can be sent by setting frequency2 to zero. Note: There must be no spaces between the commas, numbers, or the parenthesis.
What part didn't I get right? I suppose one could set the amplitude to 0. But a really loud zero hz tone is still silence. Regards, Mike Montalvo, KF7MBK ARA Membership Chair www.w7ara.org On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Geoff <ars.w5omr@gmail.com> wrote:
On 01/28/2015 02:04 PM, Mike M wrote:
Some entries have hard coded defaults where if you leave it out, it will default to something else, so if you want a silent telem, make a telemetry tone that is silent and set it as the tone.
I think you'll need to set remotetx in [telemetry] to a silent tone. If you leave it out it will default to some hardcoded tone. I use
|t(0,0,10,2048) ; silent tone.
Uhm... not quite, Mike...
A tone group is a set of 4 comma separated integers formatted as follows:
(frequency1,frequency2,duration,amplitude)
frequency1 and frequency2 must be a number between 0 and 3000. These specify the tone frequency in Hz. duration is the tone on time in Milliseconds. amplitude is the relative volume level of the tone or tones. This can be from 0 to 8192.
A tone group consisting of zeroes for amplitude and frequency will be sent as a silent period. A single frequency tone can be sent by setting frequency2 to zero.
Note: There must be no spaces between the commas, numbers, or the parenthesis.
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"A tone group consisting of zeroes for amplitude and frequency will be sent as a silent period" http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/96 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: kf7mbk@w7ara.net Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:01:31 -0700 To: ars.w5omr@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Duplex / Telemetry / Courtesy Tone Question What part didn't I get right? I suppose one could set the amplitude to 0. But a really loud zero hz tone is still silence. Regards, Mike Montalvo, KF7MBK ARA Membership Chair www.w7ara.org On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Geoff <ars.w5omr@gmail.com> wrote: On 01/28/2015 02:04 PM, Mike M wrote: Some entries have hard coded defaults where if you leave it out, it will default to something else, so if you want a silent telem, make a telemetry tone that is silent and set it as the tone. I think you'll need to set remotetx in [telemetry] to a silent tone. If you leave it out it will default to some hardcoded tone. I use |t(0,0,10,2048) ; silent tone. Uhm... not quite, Mike... A tone group is a set of 4 comma separated integers formatted as follows: (frequency1,frequency2,duration,amplitude) frequency1 and frequency2 must be a number between 0 and 3000. These specify the tone frequency in Hz. duration is the tone on time in Milliseconds. amplitude is the relative volume level of the tone or tones. This can be from 0 to 8192. A tone group consisting of zeroes for amplitude and frequency will be sent as a silent period. A single frequency tone can be sent by setting frequency2 to zero. Note: There must be no spaces between the commas, numbers, or the parenthesis. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
Thank you to everyone that replied. I believe I do have it figured out now. Mike, I hear what you're saying regarding the 0,0 tone. My goal was to keep the radio from transmitting altogether. I didn't test it, but I believe your suggestion would have transmitted a silent tone which isn't what I was trying to accomplish. Steve, I commented out the 'idrecording=' configuration option under my node stanza, and that has effectively disabled the ID. I didn't have to touch anything in the [telemetry] stanza. So, right now my node is set to duplex=1, there is no ID, and I only hear a courtesy tone when a networked user unkeys. Here are the pertinent configuration options I set under my node stanza to accomplish this: duplex=1 ;idrecording=|iKC9ONA/L ; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node ;remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=1 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0 Thanks! On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andrew Sylthe <asylthe@kc9ona.com> wrote:
Hello All,
I'm struggling to configure my simplex node in a particular way. As of right now I have duplex=0 specified for my node in rpt.conf. My goal is to maintain the functionality of duplex=0, but do want a courtesy tone to transmit ONLY when a remotely connected AllStar node unkeys. I do not want the simplex node to ID or transmit a courtesy tone for local transmissions. Has anyone else configured their node in such a way? If so, would you be willing to share your configuration.
I've tried setting duplex=1 in rpt.conf along with the following settings with no luck:
; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=0 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0
Thank you in advance for anyone that is able to help!
-- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
-- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
I did a little research and checking on this. If you set the tone define to null like: linkunkeyct= you will get no tone but you wil get a keyup. If you set: nounkeyct=1 you will get no tone and no keyup at carrier drop so this is the best way to do it. nounkeyct=0 is the default on the BBB and the default if it is not defined. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:02:41 -0600 From: asylthe@kc9ona.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Duplex / Telemetry / Courtesy Tone Question Thank you to everyone that replied. I believe I do have it figured out now. Mike, I hear what you're saying regarding the 0,0 tone. My goal was to keep the radio from transmitting altogether. I didn't test it, but I believe your suggestion would have transmitted a silent tone which isn't what I was trying to accomplish. Steve, I commented out the 'idrecording=' configuration option under my node stanza, and that has effectively disabled the ID. I didn't have to touch anything in the [telemetry] stanza. So, right now my node is set to duplex=1, there is no ID, and I only hear a courtesy tone when a networked user unkeys. Here are the pertinent configuration options I set under my node stanza to accomplish this: duplex=1 ;idrecording=|iKC9ONA/L ; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Optionstelemetry=telemetry;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node;remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connectedlinkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeysnolocallinkct=1eannmode=2echolinkdefault=0echolinkdynamic=0nounkeyct=1holdofftelem=1telemdefault=0telemdynamic=0guilinkdefault=0guilinkdynamic=0phonelinkdefault=0phonelinkdynamic=0 Thanks! On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andrew Sylthe <asylthe@kc9ona.com> wrote: Hello All, I'm struggling to configure my simplex node in a particular way. As of right now I have duplex=0 specified for my node in rpt.conf. My goal is to maintain the functionality of duplex=0, but do want a courtesy tone to transmit ONLY when a remotely connected AllStar node unkeys. I do not want the simplex node to ID or transmit a courtesy tone for local transmissions. Has anyone else configured their node in such a way? If so, would you be willing to share your configuration. I've tried setting duplex=1 in rpt.conf along with the following settings with no luck: ; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Optionstelemetry=telemetry;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another noderemotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connectedlinkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeysnolocallinkct=1eannmode=2echolinkdefault=0echolinkdynamic=0nounkeyct=0holdofftelem=1telemdefault=0telemdynamic=0guilinkdefault=0guilinkdynamic=0phonelinkdefault=0phonelinkdynamic=0 Thank you in advance for anyone that is able to help! -- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA -- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
Doug, http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/132 - "The linkunkeyct setting selects the courtesy tone to send when a connected remote node unkeys. The default is no courtesy tone when a remote node unkeys." The courtesy tone sent when a connected remote node unkeys is the tone I DO want to hear. So in that case, I wouldn't want to set nounkeyct=1 because the documentation states that it will disable all of the courtesy tones which is not what I want. Thanks! On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:
I did a little research and checking on this. If you set the tone define to null like:
linkunkeyct=
you will get no tone but you wil get a keyup. If you set:
nounkeyct=1
you will get no tone and no keyup at carrier drop so this is the best way to do it.
nounkeyct=0 is the default on the BBB and the default if it is not defined.
*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:02:41 -0600 From: asylthe@kc9ona.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Duplex / Telemetry / Courtesy Tone Question
Thank you to everyone that replied. I believe I do have it figured out now.
Mike, I hear what you're saying regarding the 0,0 tone. My goal was to keep the radio from transmitting altogether. I didn't test it, but I believe your suggestion would have transmitted a silent tone which isn't what I was trying to accomplish.
Steve, I commented out the 'idrecording=' configuration option under my node stanza, and that has effectively disabled the ID. I didn't have to touch anything in the [telemetry] stanza.
So, right now my node is set to duplex=1, there is no ID, and I only hear a courtesy tone when a networked user unkeys.
Here are the pertinent configuration options I set under my node stanza to accomplish this:
duplex=1 ;idrecording=|iKC9ONA/L ; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node ;remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=1 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0
Thanks!
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andrew Sylthe <asylthe@kc9ona.com> wrote:
Hello All,
I'm struggling to configure my simplex node in a particular way. As of right now I have duplex=0 specified for my node in rpt.conf. My goal is to maintain the functionality of duplex=0, but do want a courtesy tone to transmit ONLY when a remotely connected AllStar node unkeys. I do not want the simplex node to ID or transmit a courtesy tone for local transmissions. Has anyone else configured their node in such a way? If so, would you be willing to share your configuration.
I've tried setting duplex=1 in rpt.conf along with the following settings with no luck:
; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=0 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0
Thank you in advance for anyone that is able to help!
-- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
-- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
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Doug, I apologize. nounkeyct=1 is what I have set in my config. I'm assuming that disables the "local" courtesy tone, or possibly anything that isn't explicitly set. In either case, the config I posted is accomplishing my desired functionality. Thanks! On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Sylthe <asylthe@kc9ona.com> wrote:
Doug,
http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/132 - "The linkunkeyct setting selects the courtesy tone to send when a connected remote node unkeys. The default is no courtesy tone when a remote node unkeys."
The courtesy tone sent when a connected remote node unkeys is the tone I DO want to hear.
So in that case, I wouldn't want to set nounkeyct=1 because the documentation states that it will disable all of the courtesy tones which is not what I want.
Thanks!
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:
I did a little research and checking on this. If you set the tone define to null like:
linkunkeyct=
you will get no tone but you wil get a keyup. If you set:
nounkeyct=1
you will get no tone and no keyup at carrier drop so this is the best way to do it.
nounkeyct=0 is the default on the BBB and the default if it is not defined.
*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:02:41 -0600 From: asylthe@kc9ona.com To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Duplex / Telemetry / Courtesy Tone Question
Thank you to everyone that replied. I believe I do have it figured out now.
Mike, I hear what you're saying regarding the 0,0 tone. My goal was to keep the radio from transmitting altogether. I didn't test it, but I believe your suggestion would have transmitted a silent tone which isn't what I was trying to accomplish.
Steve, I commented out the 'idrecording=' configuration option under my node stanza, and that has effectively disabled the ID. I didn't have to touch anything in the [telemetry] stanza.
So, right now my node is set to duplex=1, there is no ID, and I only hear a courtesy tone when a networked user unkeys.
Here are the pertinent configuration options I set under my node stanza to accomplish this:
duplex=1 ;idrecording=|iKC9ONA/L ; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node ;remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=1 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0
Thanks!
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andrew Sylthe <asylthe@kc9ona.com> wrote:
Hello All,
I'm struggling to configure my simplex node in a particular way. As of right now I have duplex=0 specified for my node in rpt.conf. My goal is to maintain the functionality of duplex=0, but do want a courtesy tone to transmit ONLY when a remotely connected AllStar node unkeys. I do not want the simplex node to ID or transmit a courtesy tone for local transmissions. Has anyone else configured their node in such a way? If so, would you be willing to share your configuration.
I've tried setting duplex=1 in rpt.conf along with the following settings with no luck:
; Telemetry & Courtesy Tone Options telemetry=telemetry ;unlinkedct=ct2 ; Sent when not connected to another node remotect=ct3 ; Sent when remote base connected linkunkeyct=ct8 ; sent when a network user unkeys nolocallinkct=1 eannmode=2 echolinkdefault=0 echolinkdynamic=0 nounkeyct=0 holdofftelem=1 telemdefault=0 telemdynamic=0 guilinkdefault=0 guilinkdynamic=0 phonelinkdefault=0 phonelinkdynamic=0
Thank you in advance for anyone that is able to help!
-- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
-- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA
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