I'm running the current version of ACID (based on CentOS 5.10), and find I can't use static IP addresses. After many hours of troubleshooting until I found out there is an OS bug in the current ACID build. In some cases, static IPs are all I have, unless I can perhaps install a router on the static IP, then tuck the Allstar server in behind to utilize a DCHP configuration. Are the older versions (CentOS 5.7) available, and will they work with the newer Asterisk svn updates? What are some of the hurdles using and older ACID version? ... still trying to avoid a total recompile on a new OS :-) Thanks, Bob kk6ecm
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
I'm running the current version of ACID (based on CentOS 5.10), and find I can't use static IP addresses.
Actually you can use a static IP, but you may need to edit /etc/resolv.conf and add the DNS server IP yourself. I find the easiest thing to do is set it up with a DHCP assigned IP address, and then do the static config manually after the fact. -Willem AC0KQ ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com
After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection. On a separate server, I use "setup" to configure the static address on the back side of a router with a static IP (not reserved DHCP address), with all the associated IP accoutrements mentioned above, with router port forwarding from the LAN static IP, and eth0 won't find it either (fails on boot, or "service network restart"). I had not thought about manually editing /etc/resolv.conf. It is not clear to me what this would look like. Which is likely the root cause... not knowing what I am doing, but trying to learn :-) Thanks, Bob kk6ecm -----Original Message----- From: Willem Schreuder [mailto:willem@prinmath.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 6:43 PM To: Bob Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
I'm running the current version of ACID (based on CentOS 5.10), and find I can't use static IP addresses.
Actually you can use a static IP, but you may need to edit /etc/resolv.conf and add the DNS server IP yourself. I find the easiest thing to do is set it up with a DHCP assigned IP address, and then do the static config manually after the fact. -Willem AC0KQ ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection.
Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere. I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem. 73 Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com
I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer: nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection.
Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere.
I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem.
73 Willem
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Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try. Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm _____ From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID I also use 'setup' to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer: nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote: On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote: After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection. Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere. I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem. 73 Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:
Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try.
Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm
From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer:
nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection.
Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere.
I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem.
73 Willem
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The usual practice is to set your nameserver, /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as your gateway address. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 -0700 To: kk6ecm@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try. Thanks all,Bobkk6ecm From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer: nameserver 8.8.8.8nameserver 8.8.4.4-- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote: On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote: After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection. Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere. I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem. 73 Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address of your router. Not all routers act as a DNS caching server. Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 ( https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/) My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching server. On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:
The usual practice is to set your nameserver, /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as your gateway address.
*73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
------------------------------ From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 -0700 To: kk6ecm@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:
Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try.
Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm
------------------------------ *From:* Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com <tim.sawyer@mac.com>] *Sent:* Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM *To:* Willem Schreuder *Cc:* Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer:
nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection.
Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere.
I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem.
73 Willem
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I always use the DNS provided to my router by my ISP first (could be 2 or 3) THEN I use the google DNS And at the end I use 2 of intenic. (Iknow it is not good practice for use to connect to Internic DNS server. but it is in case all the other fail.. Wich is highly improbable that way I know that no mather what I will recive an answer to any dns query , it could take time, but I will recieve it.. Here is a good read on how DNS server works.. http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html From: Andrew Sylthe Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:41 AM To: Doug Crompton Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address of your router. Not all routers act as a DNS caching server. Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 (https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/) My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching server. On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote: The usual practice is to set your nameserver, /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as your gateway address. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 -0700 To: kk6ecm@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote: Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try. Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer: nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote: On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote: After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection. Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere. I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem. 73 Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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I guess this is getting way off topic and it also seems there are some strong opinions on dns. First of all Allstar rarely uses dns. The node connections are by IP address. If allstarlink.org, as defined in iax.conf is a problem put in the IP address. I doubt it would change. 99% of Internet users use dhcp and the dns is assigned by the provider. In the case of Comcast or Verizon it goes to their dns and you router defers it there when you point it to the router address. I have used a lot of routers over the years and I never had a problem. There is really no reason to muck with the dns. In most all cases if the dns is not working then your connection is not working either. There are a lot of people out there that would highly benefit by upgrading their Internet routers but thats another story. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: petem001@hotmail.com To: asylthe@kc9ona.com; doug@crompton.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:03:39 -0400 I always use the DNS provided to my router by my ISP first (could be 2 or 3) THEN I use the google DNS And at the end I use 2 of intenic. (Iknow it is not good practice for use to connect to Internic DNS server. but it is in case all the other fail.. Wich is highly improbable that way I know that no mather what I will recive an answer to any dns query , it could take time, but I will recieve it.. Here is a good read on how DNS server works.. http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html From: Andrew Sylthe Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:41 AM To: Doug Crompton Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address of your router. Not all routers act as a DNS caching server. Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 (https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/) My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching server. On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote: The usual practice is to set your nameserver, /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as your gateway address. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 -0700 To: kk6ecm@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote: Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try. Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer: nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote: On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote: After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection. Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere. I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem. 73 Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Andrew Sylthe KC9ONA _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
Status updates by the nodes are done by FQDN. Be mindful of that. Keith Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:
I guess this is getting way off topic and it also seems there are some strong opinions on dns. First of all Allstar rarely uses dns. The node connections are by IP address. If allstarlink.org, as defined in iax.conf is a problem put in the IP address. I doubt it would change.
99% of Internet users use dhcp and the dns is assigned by the provider. In the case of Comcast or Verizon it goes to their dns and you router defers it there when you point it to the router address. I have used a lot of routers over the years and I never had a problem. There is really no reason to muck with the dns. In most all cases if the dns is not working then your connection is not working either. There are a lot of people out there that would highly benefit by upgrading their Internet routers but thats another story.
73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: petem001@hotmail.com To: asylthe@kc9ona.com; doug@crompton.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:03:39 -0400
I always use the DNS provided to my router by my ISP first (could be 2 or 3) THEN I use the google DNS And at the end I use 2 of intenic. (Iknow it is not good practice for use to connect to Internic DNS server. but it is in case all the other fail.. Wich is highly improbable
that way I know that no mather what I will recive an answer to any dns query , it could take time, but I will recieve it..
Here is a good read on how DNS server works..
http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html
From: Andrew Sylthe Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:41 AM To: Doug Crompton Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address of your router. Not all routers act as a DNS caching server.
Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 (https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/)
My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching server.
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote: The usual practice is to set your nameserver, /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as your gateway address.
73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 -0700 To: kk6ecm@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:
Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try.
Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm
From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer:
nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection.
Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere.
I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem.
73 Willem
================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
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With the public Allstar network DNS is needed for status updates and to register. Both process use hostnames. -- Tim :wq On May 5, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:
I guess this is getting way off topic and it also seems there are some strong opinions on dns. First of all Allstar rarely uses dns. The node connections are by IP address. If allstarlink.org, as defined in iax.conf is a problem put in the IP address. I doubt it would change.
99% of Internet users use dhcp and the dns is assigned by the provider. In the case of Comcast or Verizon it goes to their dns and you router defers it there when you point it to the router address. I have used a lot of routers over the years and I never had a problem. There is really no reason to muck with the dns. In most all cases if the dns is not working then your connection is not working either. There are a lot of people out there that would highly benefit by upgrading their Internet routers but thats another story.
73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: petem001@hotmail.com To: asylthe@kc9ona.com; doug@crompton.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:03:39 -0400
I always use the DNS provided to my router by my ISP first (could be 2 or 3) THEN I use the google DNS And at the end I use 2 of intenic. (Iknow it is not good practice for use to connect to Internic DNS server. but it is in case all the other fail.. Wich is highly improbable
that way I know that no mather what I will recive an answer to any dns query , it could take time, but I will recieve it..
Here is a good read on how DNS server works..
http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html
From: Andrew Sylthe Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:41 AM To: Doug Crompton Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address of your router. Not all routers act as a DNS caching server.
Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 (https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/)
My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching server.
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote: The usual practice is to set your nameserver, /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as your gateway address.
73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 -0700 To: kk6ecm@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:
Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try.
Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm
From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer:
nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection.
Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere.
I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem.
73 Willem
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Unless you change that in iax.conf and rc.updatnodelist and specify IP addresses rather than url's. I am not advocating doing that just pointing that out. Anyhow enough of the DNS stuff. DNS always works for me and if it is not for you then you either have a lousy provider or you have something not set right. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 12:31:13 -0700 CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org To: doug@crompton.com With the public Allstar network DNS is needed for status updates and to register. Both process use hostnames. -- Tim :wq On May 5, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:I guess this is getting way off topic and it also seems there are some strong opinions on dns. First of all Allstar rarely uses dns. The node connections are by IP address. If allstarlink.org, as defined in iax.conf is a problem put in the IP address. I doubt it would change. 99% of Internet users use dhcp and the dns is assigned by the provider. In the case of Comcast or Verizon it goes to their dns and you router defers it there when you point it to the router address. I have used a lot of routers over the years and I never had a problem. There is really no reason to muck with the dns. In most all cases if the dns is not working then your connection is not working either. There are a lot of people out there that would highly benefit by upgrading their Internet routers but thats another story. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: petem001@hotmail.com To: asylthe@kc9ona.com; doug@crompton.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:03:39 -0400 I always use the DNS provided to my router by my ISP first (could be 2 or 3) THEN I use the google DNS And at the end I use 2 of intenic. (Iknow it is not good practice for use to connect to Internic DNS server. but it is in case all the other fail.. Wich is highly improbable that way I know that no mather what I will recive an answer to any dns query , it could take time, but I will recieve it.. Here is a good read on how DNS server works.. http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html From: Andrew SyltheSent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:41 AMTo: Doug CromptonCc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.orgSubject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address of your router. Not all routers act as a DNS caching server. Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 (https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/) My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching server. On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote: The usual practice is to set your nameserver, /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as your gateway address. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 -0700 To: kk6ecm@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote: Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try. Thanks all,Bobkk6ecm From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer: nameserver 8.8.8.8nameserver 8.8.4.4-- Tim :wq On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote: On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote: After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection. Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere. I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem. 73 Willem ================================================================ Dr. Willem A. Schreuder, President, Principia Mathematica Address: 445 Union Blvd, Suite 230, Lakewood, CO 80228, USA Tel: (303) 716-3573 Fax: (303) 716-3575 WWW: www.prinmath.com Email: Willem.Schreuder@prinmath.com _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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DNS and static IP success! Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm Sent from iPad On May 5, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:
Unless you change that in iax.conf and rc.updatnodelist and specify IP addresses rather than url's. I am not advocating doing that just pointing that out. Anyhow enough of the DNS stuff. DNS always works for me and if it is not for you then you either have a lousy provider or you have something not set right.
73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 12:31:13 -0700 CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org To: doug@crompton.com
With the public Allstar network DNS is needed for status updates and to register. Both process use hostnames. -- Tim :wq
On May 5, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote:
I guess this is getting way off topic and it also seems there are some strong opinions on dns. First of all Allstar rarely uses dns. The node connections are by IP address. If allstarlink.org, as defined in iax.conf is a problem put in the IP address. I doubt it would change.
99% of Internet users use dhcp and the dns is assigned by the provider. In the case of Comcast or Verizon it goes to their dns and you router defers it there when you point it to the router address. I have used a lot of routers over the years and I never had a problem. There is really no reason to muck with the dns. In most all cases if the dns is not working then your connection is not working either. There are a lot of people out there that would highly benefit by upgrading their Internet routers but thats another story.
73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: petem001@hotmail.com To: asylthe@kc9ona.com; doug@crompton.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:03:39 -0400
I always use the DNS provided to my router by my ISP first (could be 2 or 3) THEN I use the google DNS And at the end I use 2 of intenic. (Iknow it is not good practice for use to connect to Internic DNS server. but it is in case all the other fail.. Wich is highly improbable
that way I know that no mather what I will recive an answer to any dns query , it could take time, but I will recieve it..
Here is a good read on how DNS server works..
http://www.linuxsv.org/training/l19_linux_dns.html
From: Andrew Sylthe Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:41 AM To: Doug Crompton Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
I would be careful with setting your nameserver to the IP address of your router. Not all routers act as a DNS caching server.
Google offers 2 public DNS servers that anyone can use: 8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4 (https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/)
My recommendation would be to use the Google Public DNS servers in your /etc/resolv.conf if you are unsure about your router acting as a DNS caching server.
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Doug Crompton <doug@crompton.com> wrote: The usual practice is to set your nameserver, /etc/resolv.conf to the lan address of your router which would be the same as your gateway address.
73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
From: tim.sawyer@mac.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:02:20 -0700 To: kk6ecm@gmail.com CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
Without DNS you can’t reach anything by host name. So you wouldn’t be able to ping google.com, for example. On the other hand you should be able to ping your router, 192.168.1.1 for example, or anything else you know the IP address for. -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:
Can the DNS make it appear to not even find the connection, as though the cable is not connected? The response I get (or lack of) looks like it would if the cable were not connected. Looks like I have a bunch of things to try.
Thanks all, Bob kk6ecm
From: Tim Sawyer [mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:25 PM To: Willem Schreuder Cc: Bob; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Finding older version of ACID
I also use ‘setup’ to set a static IP address. But setup hammers /etc/resolv.conf so I just go edit i.e. manually. Should look like so for google dns, use others if you prefer:
nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 -- Tim :wq
On May 4, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Willem Schreuder <willem@prinmath.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2014, Bob wrote:
After the ACID load is complete, using a DHCP router, I run "setup" from the command prompt, and configure it manually, IP, netmask, gateway, and DSN. When I do this on a WinXp machine in the TC/IP window, connects directly to the public (static) IP just fine. When I do it on the Linux box with ACID, eth0 can't find the connection.
Bob, what you are doing seems correct. I tend to manually edit files, but there is nothing wrong doing it from 'setup'. Bottom line, there is nothing in ACID that prevents this from working. I think you probably just have some field wrong somewhere.
I would approach it bottom up - try pinging the from the AllStar computer to the gateway using IP addresses, then using a symbolic name to test NDS, and work your way up. I bet you will find some subtle misconfiguraton somewhere is causing the problem.
73 Willem
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